Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: Seeds of Christian Persecution Growing in the USA
Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong and the one who is filthy, still be filthy,
and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy.
Seeds of Christian Persecution Growing in the USA
August 4, 2010
I merged several threads into one on this subject
AMERIKA! AN ABOMI NATION to GOD!! READ THIS THREAD - SEVERAL ARTICLES COLLECTED INTO THIS ONE
The Obamanation honors SIN!
It is TOO LATE for AmeriKa as a nation to repent now.
June 22, 2010
B. Hussein Obama marks LGBT Pride Month at a White? House reception.
LGBT are a bunch of FILTHY QUEERS, 2 of which are Obama and Biden.
GOD MUST JUDGE THIS SIN! HE has damned it as an abomination to a nation.
Remarks by Obama at LGBT (FILTHY QUEERS!) Pride Month Reception at the White House
REMARKS BY B. Hussein Obama AT LGBT PRIDE MONTH RECEPTION
East Room 6:16 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Hello, hello, hello! (Applause.) Hello, everybody! (Applause.) I was going to say welcome to the White House -- but you guys seem like you feel right at home. (Laughter.) You don't need me to tell you -- it’s the people’s house.
A couple of acknowledgements that I want to make very quickly -- first of all, our Director of the Office of Personnel Management, who has just done an extraordinary job across the government -- give John Berry a big round of applause. (Applause.)
AUDIENCE MEMBER: All right, John!
THE PRESIDENT: All right, John! (Laughter.)
Our chair of the Export/Import Bank, helping to bring jobs here to the United States of America -- Fred Hochberg. (Applause.) Our chair of the Council on Environmental Quality, doing outstanding work each and every day -- Nancy Sutley. Where is she? (Applause.) Nancy is a little vertically challenged, but I see her over there. (Laughter.)
We've got here a trailblazer for federal appointees -- we are so proud of her -- Ms. Roberta Achtenberg is here. Give Roberta a big round of applause. (Applause.) And then I understand we've got a terrific country singer -- Chely Wright is in the house. (Applause.)
In addition -- I know they had to leave because they had votes, but you guys obviously don't have just fiercer warriors on your behalf than a couple of our openly gay and lesbian members of Congress -- Tammy Baldwin and Jared Polis. (Applause.) They are openly terrific. (Laughter.) They do great work.
And it is also great to have so many activists and organizers from around the country -- folks who fight every day for the rights of parents and children and partners and citizens to be treated equally under the law. And so we are very proud of all of you. (Applause.)
Oh, and by the way, the guy standing next to me -- this is Joe Biden. (Applause.) Just because he’s a Phillies fan -- he’s from Delaware. (Laughter.)
Now, look, the fact that we’ve got activists here is important because it’s a reminder that change never comes -- or at least never begins in Washington. It begins with acts of compassion -– and sometimes defiance -– across America. It begins when ordinary people –- out of love for a mother or a father, son or daughter, or husband or wife -– speak out against injustices that have been accepted for too long. And it begins when these impositions of conscience start opening hearts that had been closed, and when we finally see each other’s humanity, whatever our differences.
Now, this struggle is as old as America itself. It’s never been easy. But standing here, I am hopeful. One year ago, in this room, we marked the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall protests. (Applause.) Some of you were here, and you may remember that I pledged then that even at a time when we faced enormous challenges both on the economy and in our foreign policy, that we would not put aside matters of basic equality. And we haven’t.
We’ve got a lot of hard work that we still have to do, but we can already point to extraordinary progress that we’ve made over the past year on behalf of Americans who are gay and lesbian, bisexual and transgender.
Just stay with me here for a second. Last year, I met with Judy Shepard, Matthew Shepard’s mom, and I promised her that after a decade’s-long struggle, we would pass inclusive hate crimes legislation. I promised that in the name of her son we would ensure that the full might of the law is brought down on those who would attack somebody just because they are gay. And less than six months later, with Judy by my side, we marked the enactment of the Matthew Shepard Act. It’s now the law of the land. (Applause.)
Just a few moments ago, I met with Janice Langbehn and her children. Where did Janice go? There they are right there. And when Janice’s partner of 18 years, Lisa, suddenly collapsed because of an aneurysm, Janice and the couple’s three kids were denied the chance to comfort their partner and their mom -- barred from Lisa’s bedside. It was wrong. It was cruel. And in part because of their story, I instructed my Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, to make sure that any hospital that’s participating in Medicare or Medicaid -– that means most hospitals -- (laughter) -- allow gay and lesbian partners the same privileges and visitation rights as straight partners. (Applause.)
After I issued that memorandum, I called Janice and I told her the news. And before we came out here today, I wanted to make sure that I had followed up -- Secretary Sebelius will officially be proposing this regulation. And I can also announce that the Secretary has sent a letter today asking these hospitals to adopt these changes now -– even before the rule takes effect. (Applause.) Nothing can undo the hurt that her -- that Janice’s family has experienced. And nothing can undo the pain felt by countless others who’ve been through a similar ordeal –- for example, Charlene Strong is here. She lost her wife, Kate Fleming -- and Charlene is here along with Kate’s mom, who said on behalf of all mothers, thank you. Because we think it’s the right thing to do. (Applause.)
In addition, I’ve issued an executive order[SIC]* to extend as many partnership benefits to gay and lesbian federal employees as possible under current law. And I’m going to continue to fight to change the law: to guarantee gay federal employees the exact same benefits as straight employees -– including access to health insurance and retirement plans. (Applause.) And in an announcement today, the Department of Labor made clear that under the Family and Medical Leave Act, same-sex couples –- as well as others raising children -– are to be treated like the caretakers that they are. (Applause.)
Because I believe in committed -- I believe that committed gay and lesbian couples deserve the same rights and responsibilities afforded to any married couple in this country, I have called for Congress to repeal the so-called Defense of Marriage Act. (Applause.) We are pushing hard to pass an inclusive employee non-discrimination bill. (Applause.) No one in America should be fired because they’re gay. It’s not right, it’s not who we are as Americans, and we are going to put a stop to it.
And finally, we’re going to end “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. (Applause.) That is a promise I made as a candidate. It is a promise that I reiterated as President. It’s one that this administration is going to keep. Now, the only way to lock this in -– the only way to get the votes in Congress to roll back this policy -- is if we work with the Pentagon, who are in the midst of two wars.
And that’s why we were gratified to see, for the first time ever, the Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates, testify in favor of repeal. And the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mike Mullen, has repeatedly and passionately argued for allowing gay men and women to serve honestly in the military. (Applause.) We know that forcing gay and lesbian soldiers to live a lie or to leave the military, that doesn’t contribute to our security -- it harms our security.
And thanks to Patrick Murphy and others, for the first time in history, the House has passed a repeal that would allow gay men and women to openly serve in our armed forces. And this repeal is authored so that the Pentagon can complete its review of the policy -- which is critical, by the way, not only to passage, but it’s also critical to making sure that the change is accepted and implemented effectively. In the Senate, the Armed Services Committee has approved repeal for the first time, and the full body is poised to vote soon.
So here’s the bottom line: We have never been closer to ending this discriminatory policy. And I’m going to keep on fighting until that bill is on my desk and I can sign it. (Applause.)
Of course, ultimately, change is about more than just policies in our government. And that’s why I want to close by recognizing all the young people who are here -– I had a chance to take a bunch of pictures with them, just really impressive folks who are advocating on their behalf. I know there are some in the audience who have experienced pain in their lives, who at times have been -- felt like outcasts, who have been scorned or bullied, and I know that there are families here on behalf of loved ones who are no longer with us, some in part because of the particularly difficult challenges that gay men and women still face.
This is a reminder that we all have an obligation to ensure that no young person is ever made to feel worthless or alone -- ever. Now, at the same time, I think there’s plenty of reason to have some hope for many of the young people including those who are here today. They’ve shown incredible courage and incredible integrity -- standing up for who they are. They’ve refused to be anything less than themselves.
And we all remember being young -- sort of. (Laughter.) But it’s not easy. It’s not easy standing up all the time and being who you are. But they're showing us the way forward. These young people are helping to build a more perfect union, a nation where all of us are equal; each of us is free to pursue our own versions of happiness.
And I believe because of them that the future is bright. It’s certainly bright for them. Of course, it does depend on all of us. It depends on the efforts of government and the activism of ordinary citizens like yourselves. It depends on the love of families and the support of communities. And I want you all to know that as this work continues, I’m going to be standing shoulder-to-shoulder with you, fighting by your side every step of the way. (Applause.)
So, thank you. God bless you. God bless the United States of America. (Applause.)
Lose Christianity or face expulsion
Georgia student told to read queer lit, attend pride parade, change beliefs
God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies.
They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise!
That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other.
And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other.
Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
July 22, 2010
A lawsuit against Augusta State University in Georgia alleges school officials essentially gave a graduate student in counseling the choice of giving up her Christian beliefs or being expelled from the graduate program.
School officials Mary Jane Anderson-Wiley, Paulette Schenck and Richard Deaner demanded student Jen Keeton, 24, go through a "remediation" program after she asserted
homosexuality is a behavioral choice, not a "state of being" as a professor said, according to the complaint.
Also named as defendants in the case that developed in May and June are other administrators and the university system's board of regents.
The remediation program was to include "sensitivity training" on homosexual issues,
additional outside study on literature promoting homosexuality and the plan that she attend a "gay pride parade" and report on it.
The lawsuit, filed by attorneys working with the Alliance Defense Fund, asserted the school cannot violate the Constitution by demanding that a person's beliefs be changed.
"ASU faculty have promised to expel Miss Keeton from the graduate Counselor Education program, not because of poor academic showing or demonstrated deficiencies in clinical performance, but simply because she has communicated both inside and outside the classroom that she holds to Christian ethical convictions on matters of human sexuality and gender identity," the law firm explained.
School spokeswoman Kathy Schose today declined to address the allegations in the case but agreed to discuss the counselor teaching program in general.
She cited the American Counseling Association's code of ethics and said students would be required to adopt its provisions.
"There is a code of ethics that govern counselors," she said. "They have to abide by the code of the profession."
Ethics codes generally govern behavior, and Schose denied the school was attempting to alter any student's beliefs or moral values.
But the lawsuit specifically charges the faculty members targeted Keeton's biblically based belief system and values, not her behavior regarding the treatment of any clients, which had not yet happened.
"Schenck told Miss Keeton that it was unethical for her to believe that her convictions should also be shared by other persons. … Schenck explained that while Miss Keeton was free to have points of view about how she personally should conduct and define herself, she may not believe that others should adopt the standards she personally is convinced are true," the lawsuit said.
"Anderson-Wiley confirmed that Miss Keeton will not be able to successfully complete the remediation plan and thus complete the ASU counseling program unless she commits to affirming the propriety of gay and lesbian relationships if such an opportunity arises in her future professional efforts," it continued.
ADF Senior Counsel David French contended a public university student "shouldn't be threatened with expulsion for being a Christian and refusing to publicly renounce her faith, but that's exactly what's happening here."
"Simply put, the university is imposing thought reform," he said. "Abandoning one's own religious beliefs should not be a precondition at a public university for obtaining a degree. This type of leftist zero-tolerance policy is in place at far too many universities, and it must stop. Jennifer's only crime was to have the beliefs that she does."
Keeton's own e-mail response to the faculty members who allegedly were pressuring her to adopt a pro-homosexual belief system defines the dispute.
"At times you said that I must alter my beliefs because they are unethical. … other times you said that I can keep my beliefs so long as they are only personal and I don't believe that anyone else should believe like me. But that is just another way of saying that I must alter my beliefs, because my beliefs are about absolute truth. ….. in order to finish the counseling program you are requiring me to alter my objective beliefs and also to commit now that if I ever may have a client who wants me to affirm their decision to have an abortion or engage in gay, lesbian, or transgender behavior, I will do that. I can't alter my biblical beliefs, and I will not affirm the morality of those behaviors in a counseling situation," she wrote.
Faculty members had demanded she "attend at least three workshops … which emphasize … diversity training sensitive toward working with GLBTQ populations." They also wanted her to "develop" her knowledge of homosexuality by reading 10 articles and increasing her exposure to homosexuals and lesbians by attending "the Gay Pride Parade."
According to the complaint documentation, which also seeks a preliminary injunction in the case, Keeton asked Anderson-Wiley how her Christian convictions are any less acceptable than those of a Buddhist or Muslim student. Anderson-Wiley responded, "Christians see this population as sinners."
The complaint alleges Anderson-Wiley specifically told Keeton she was being asked to alter some of her beliefs. The "remediation" program included a statement that Keeton would be dismissed from the program if she chose not to comply, the lawsuit said.
"Unless and until defendant's unconstitutional speech-regulating policies and threatened … actions against Miss Keeton are enjoined, Miss Keeton will suffer and continue to suffer irreparable injury to her constitutional rights," the lawsuit said.
Among the alleged violations of the First and Fourteenth Amendments are viewpoint discrimination, compelled speech, equal protection and freedom of speech, it said.
"By conditioning Miss Keeton's continued enrollment in the ASU school counselor masters degree program on her waiver of rights to speech and free exercise of religion … by requiring that she alter her beliefs and speech, and that she … commit to affirm in a hypothetical future context the ethical propriety of transgender and homosexual identification and behavior by others, as well as other values and behaviors she now disapproves, and which violate her religion convictions, defendants have imposed an unconstitutional condition on Miss Keeton," the complaint alleges.
"The First Amendment never permits the government to penalize beliefs in this manner," the complaint said.
The ADF said it also is litigating a case involving a Georgia counselor fired by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention because she would not agree to affirm homosexual behavior. While an earlier similar case at Missouri State has been resolved, there is another in which Eastern Michigan University is defendant on similar allegations.
In the Missouri State case, a social work professor, Frank Kauffman, eventually was placed on leave as part of a settlement of the lawsuit brought on behalf of student Emily Brooker. The student had refused his assignment to lobby on behalf of homosexual adoptions because it violated her religious beliefs. She then was brought up on ethics charges in the school.
The settlement also included monetary damages and the removal of the charges against her from her record. The school's own commissioned conclusion in the case found "many students and faculty stated a fear of voicing differing opinions. … In fact, 'bullying' was used by both students and faculty to characterize specific faculty."
In the still-pending case involving Eastern Michigan, lawmakers there considered calling top school officials on the carpet after they expelled from a counseling program a Christian student who refused to argue in support of the homosexual lifestyle.
As WND reported, trouble began for master's program student Julea Ward when she refused to accept a client whose issue concerned a homosexual relationship.
The school expelled her from the counseling program March 12, 2009, for refusing to abrogate her own personal religious beliefs and support the homosexual lifestyle.
Since then, Ward has brought a lawsuit through the Alliance Defense Fund Center for Academic Freedom.
Members of the Michigan Senate shortly later approved legislation that includes a provision calling on university counseling programs to evaluate and affirm how they can accommodate the religious beliefs of students.
State Rep. Tom McMillin told WND at the time the case was "extremely alarming," and there was growing support for an effort to penalize universities that don't accommodate religious beliefs.
This is a state-taxpayer-supported university," he said. "She's got a court case. Hopefully that will be resolved."
In the case, the judge refused to dismiss the complaint, determining there were "genuine issues of material fact" about the school's "true motivations" for dismissing Ward from the program. Further, the judge concluded, the student's actions to avoid in advance a counseling session for which she had reservations probably followed professional ethical guidelines
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Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.
I will cause the land to vomit them out.
As if its not bad enough that colleges forbid Christianity, these DAMNED APOSTATE CHURCHES ACCEPT THIS FILTHY SIN!!!
These are not shepherds, they are wolves leading to the fires of HELL
July 25, 2010
7 pastors who work in the San Francisco Bay area and were barred from serving in America's largest Lutheran group because of a policy that required gay clergy to be celibate are being welcomed into the denomination.
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America will add six of the pastors to its clergy roster at a service at St. Mark's Lutheran Church in San Francisco on Sunday.
Another pastor who was expelled from the church, but was later reinstated, will participate in the service.
The group is among the first gay, bisexual or transgender Lutheran pastors to be reinstated or added to the rolls of the ELCA since the organization voted last year to lift the policy requiring celibacy.
Churches can now hire noncelibate gay clergy who are in committed relationships.
"It's going to be an extremely glorious and festive ceremony because it's the culmination of decades of work to welcome LGBT people into the ELCA," said Amalia Vagts, executive director of the Extraordinary Lutheran Ministries, a nonprofit that credentials openly gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people for ministry.
Megan Rohrer, one of the pastors who will participate in Sunday's rite of reception service, grew up in South Dakota and attended a Lutheran college where she said students tried to exorcise her "gay demons" by throwing holy water on her. Some of those people are now Lutheran pastors in South Dakota, she said.
Rohrer, who is transgender and a lesbian, was ordained by four congregations in San Francisco in 2006, but could not join the ELCA roster until the denomination's national assembly approved the new policy in August.
"I didn't really believe the policy was going to change as quickly as it did," she said.
Rohrer said she is hopeful Sunday's service will be a "symbol" to young people that the Lutheran church is working toward becoming more welcoming of people of all different backgrounds.
Jeff Johnson, another one of the pastors who will be added to the roster, said the ELCA's position for years of not accepting the choice of some congregations to ordain gay clergy was painful and disappointing.
"The actions the church is taking on Sunday affirms the decisions of those congregations," Johnson, pastor of the University Lutheran Chapel in Berkeley, said. "The church is respecting our family, our partners, the choices we're making."
A small number of congregations have voted to leave the ELCA in response to the August vote. Johnson and Rohrer want Sunday's service to heal some of the rifts.
Johnson said the goal, in part, is to show people the church has space for many different opinions.
"There's room for them," he said. "It's a tolerant church."
The special rite of reception that will be used for the first time on Sunday was developed specifically to welcome gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender pastors, said Melissa Ramirez Cooper, a spokeswoman for the ELCA.
B Hussein himself is as queer as they come. He is a filthy usurper!
July 23, 2010
B Hussein Obama's role in the accreditation of a U.S.-based gay rights group by the United Nations is “distressing,” says a Southern Baptist public policy leader.
After strong lobbying from the Obama administration, the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission was given consultative status by the U.N. Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) on Monday. ECOSOC voted 23-13, with 13 abstentions, to allow the gay rights group to attend U.N. meetings and submit statements to U.N. agencies and governments.
“It is extremely distressing that the Obama administration would exert extraordinary pressure on the United Nations to gain membership for a group that is so obviously opposed to the foundational American principle of freedom of speech,” said Barrett Duke, vice president for public policy and research at The Ethics Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, on Friday.
Duke told The Christian Post that the IGLHRC’s admittance into the United Nations serves as a reminder of why it is important for evangelical groups to also engage with the global body. The ERLC, noted Duke, also has consultative status with the United Nations with the purpose of making the evangelical perspective known to the United Nations as it develops policies.
IGLHRC had applied for consultative status with the ECOSOC since 2007. The group credits the U.S. government for their admittance, noting how it stood “strongly behind” its application for its approval. Fourteen members of the U.S. House of Representatives and four senators sent letters to all U.N. member states to support IGLHRC’s application, including Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who is chair of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations.
IGLHRC is now the tenth LGBT human rights group to gain consultative status at the United Nations.
President Obama, in a statement, congratulated IGLHRC for taking its “rightful seat” at the United Nations. With its inclusion, the United Nation is “closer to the ideals on which it was founded,” Obama said, and to the “values of inclusion and equality to which the United States is deeply committed.”
Jessica Stern, program director of IGLHRC, told The Associated Press on Monday that the recognition by the United Nations will help the group’s work. She noted that more than 70 countries have sodomy laws and homophobia is widespread in the world.
The United Nation’s approval of IGLHRC’s application marks the latest gay rights victory orchestrated by the Obama administration.
In April, President Obama ordered the extension of hospital visitation and health care decision rights to same-sex couples - a policy change that was even largely supported by the evangelical community. Evangelical groups and figures such as Focus on the Family and Pastor Joel C. Hunter of Northland, A Church Distributed in Orlando publicly expressed their support for the Presidential Memorandum regarding hospital visitation for same-sex partners.
Less accepted by the evangelical community is the Obama administration's current push to repeal the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, which bars gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military.
As for those within the gay community, many have complained that Obama is moving too slow on repealing DADT, but military leaders recommend taking time to carefully analyze what impact the change in policy will have on the armed forces.
Hastings College Demands Christian Groups Accept SIN
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived! neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (lesbians), nor homosexuals,
nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6
June 28, 2010
The Supreme Court says a law school can legally deny recognition to a Christian student group that won't let queers join.
The court on Monday turned away an appeal from the Christian Legal Society, which sued to get funding and recognition from the University of California's Hastings College of the Law.
The CLS requires that voting members sign a statement of faith and regards "unrepentant participation in or advocacy of a sexually immoral lifestyle" as being inconsistent with that faith.
But Hastings said no recognized campus groups may exclude people due to religious belief or sexual orientation.
The court upheld the lower court rulings saying the Christian group's First Amendment rights of association, free speech and free exercise were not violated by the college's decision.
SIN approved by congress Dont ask dont tell weakening and threatening our military.
May 28, 2010
Congress has given in to pressure from gay activists and the White House and voted to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military.
In quick succession Thursday, the Senate Armed Services Committee and the full House (see Roll Call vote) approved measures to repeal the
1993 law that allows homosexuals to serve in the armed services only if they hide their sexual orientation.
The votes were a victory for Barack Hussein Obama, who has actively supported ending the policy, and for gay rights groups who have made repealing the ban their top legislative priority this year.
"Lawmakers today stood on the right side of history," said Joe Solmonese, president of Human Rights Campaign, a major gay rights organization.
The central argument in favor of same-sex marriage or overturning “Don’t ask don’t tell” contains a fatal flaw.
In fact, this is the flaw at the heart of the entire gay rights movement.
Joint Chief Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen dutifully proclaimed the flaw as truth the other day when speaking in favor of ending the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy.
He said, "I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."
All sorts of behaviors are incompatible with unit cohesion and military readiness.
The Uniformed Code of Military Justice prohibits numerous behaviors that are not criminal offenses in civilian life.
The military is essential to our survival as a nation. It’s not a social experiment and serving in it is not a right. People have to qualify and then make sacrifices.
Military people must subordinate many of their individual rights to advance the national interest.
Recruits must agree to give up some of the freedoms that civilians enjoy, including certain sexual freedoms and even the freedom of speech!
So even if homosexual behavior is permitted in society, that doesn’t necessarily mean it should be permitted in the military.
The military needs as few sexual distractions as possible
There is a difference between desires and behavior. Having certain sexual desires does not mean that you are being discriminated against if the law doesn’t allow the behavior you desire.
But desire does not justify bad behavior, or make anyone a special class, and should have no impact on our laws.
Laws encourage good behavior or prevent bad behavior.
The military laws do not discriminate against persons for “who they are,” they discriminate against the behaviors in which they engage.
But so what? That’s what most laws do.
For example, the Thirteenth Amendment discriminates against the behavior of some businessmen who might like to improve their profits through slavery,
but it does not discriminate against those businessmen as persons.
Claiming you “are” your sexual desires is absurd.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: GOD's Judgment on Homo Sin
GOD's Judgment on Homo Sin
LOOK what happened in August in Minnesota when the ELCA approved SIN
August 20, 2009
ELCA approves homo sin. Tornadoes are the Finger of GOD.
GOD is angry at the US pressure on Israel to give up her God-given land to her enemies, and HE hates the homo SIN,
so Minnesota was chosen for a display of His disapproval. I'd say this was a lot of MERCY, all things considered - just a warning.
On a day when NO severe weather was predicted or expected, a tornado forms, baffling the weather experts, they've
never seen anything like it, right in the city of Minneapolis, Minnesota.
The tornado happens during the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America's national convention in the
Minneapolis Convention Center. The convention is using Central Lutheran across the street as its church.
The 5th session of the convention was to begin at 2 PM on Wednesday, August 19.
The main item of the session: Consideration: Proposed Social Statement on Human Sexuality.
The issue is whether practicing homosexuality is a behavior that should disqualify a person from the pastoral ministry.
There were no warnings at all. An eye witness said, What's that? It's a tornado! They all ran into the church and the doors
were locked. It happened so fast and without warning. There were NO watches or WARNINGS. It only got up to the 60's and rain.
About 30-40 cars on the top floor of our parking ramp got their windows blown out.
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Let met start off by saying, I have known two gay couples in my life. A male couple, and a female. They were some of the nicest people I ever knew. Yes, their lifestyle is wrong. But, hate the sin not the sinner! I have heard that the antichrist might be gay, as he doesn't have a desire for women. I cant remember the exact wording.....
Court Upholds Expulsion of Counseling Student Who Opposes Homosexuality
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!!
July 28, 2010 FoxNews.com
A federal judge has ruled in favor of a public university that removed a Christian student from its graduate program in school counseling over her belief that homosexuality is morally wrong.
Monday's ruling, according to Julea Ward's attorneys, could result in Christian students across the country being expelled from public university for similar views.
Jeremy Tedesco, legal counsel for the conservative Alliance Defense Fund, said
“It’s a very dangerous precedent. The ruling doesn’t say that explicitly, but that’s what is going to happen.”
U.S. District Judge George Caram Steeh dismissed Ward’s lawsuit against Eastern Michigan University.
She was removed from the school’s counseling program last year because she refused to counsel homosexual clients.
The university contended she violated school policy and the American Counseling Association code of ethics.
“Christian students shouldn’t be expelled for holding to and abiding by their beliefs,” said ADF senior counsel David French.
“To reach its decision, the court had to do something that’s never been done in federal court: uphold an extremely broad and vague university speech code.”
Eastern Michigan University hailed the decision.
“We are pleased that the court has upheld our position in this matter,” EMU spokesman Walter Kraft said in a written statement. “Julea Ward was not discriminated against because of her religion. To the contrary, Eastern Michigan is deeply committed to the education of our students and welcomes individuals from diverse backgrounds into our community.”
In his 48-page opinion, Judge Steeh said the university had a rational basis for adopting the ACA Code of Ethics.
“Furthermore, the university had a rational basis for requiring students to counsel clients without imposing their personal values,” he wrote in a portion of his ruling posted by The Detroit News. “In the case of Ms. Ward, the university determined that she would never change her behavior and would consistently refuse to counsel clients on matters with which she was personally opposed due to her religious beliefs – including homosexual relationships.”
Ward’s attorneys claim the university told her she would only be allowed to remain in the program if she went through a “remediation” program so that she could “see the error of her ways” and change her belief system about homosexuality.
The case is similar to a lawsuit the ADF filed against Augusta State University in Georgia. Counseling student Jennifer Keeton was allegedly told to stop sharing her Christian beliefs in order to graduate.
Keeton's lawsuit alleged that she was told to undergo a reeducation program and attend “diversity sensitivity training.”
University officials declined to comment on specifics of the lawsuit but Augusta State claims it does not discriminate on the basis of students’ moral, religious, political or personal beliefs.
OBVIOUSLY THE COLLEGE DOES DISCRIMINATE AGAINST GOD IN FAVOR OF SATAN!
Tedesco said both cases should be a warning to Christians attending public colleges and universities.
“Public universities are imposing the ideological stances of private groups on their students. If you don’t comply, you will be kicked out. It’s scary stuff and it’s not a difficult thing to see what’s coming down the pike.”
CHRISTIANS ARRESTED for preaching Jesus - in U.S.A!!
Moved from single post to this thread August 4.
I am afraid we are going to see this more and more.
Christians hauled to jail for preaching Jesus
'Apparently the Constitution carries little weight in Dearborn'
June 22, 2010
One of the nation's top legal teams regarding civil and religious rights has stepped into a dispute stemming from last weekend's Arab Festival in Dearborn, Mich., where police are accused of enforcing Islamic law.
"Officers arrested four Christian missionaries and illegally confiscated their video cameras which were recording the events surrounding their arrests," said a statement today from the Thomas More Law Center of Ann Arbor, Mich.
Officials in the police department with the city of Dearborn declined to comment to WND.
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But the law center announcement said the incident has been described as "police enforcement of Shariah law." The organization said it would represent the Christians.
"These Christian missionaries were exercising their constitutional rights to free speech and the free exercise of religion, but apparently the Constitution carries little weight in Dearborn, where the Muslim population seems to dominate the political apparatus," said Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the Thomas More Law Center.
"It's apparent that these arrests were a retaliatory action over the embarrassing video of the strong arm tactics used last year by festival security guards. This time, the first thing police officers did before making the arrests was to confiscate the video cameras in order to prevent a recording of what was actually happening," Thompson said.
Arrested on charges of breach of the peace were Negeen Mayel, Dr. Nabeel Qureshi, Paul Rezkalla and David Wood, the legal team said.
Mayel, an 18-year-old woman whose parents emigrated from Afghanistan and a recent convert from Islam to Christianity, also was charged with failure to obey a police officer's orders. She was approximately 100 feet away and videotaping a discussion with Muslims when her camera was seized, the law firm said.
"Contrary to the comments made by Police Chief Ron Haddad, our Constitution does not allow police to ban the right of free speech just because there are some hecklers. Not all police officers approve of the way their department treated these Christians," said Thompson.
The Christian missionaries reported police told them they would have to be five blocks away from the festival to give away copies of the Gospel of John.
The law center also is representing Pastor George Saeig, who was prohibited by the festival and police authorities from distributing religious material at last year's festival. That case is ongoing and a federal appeals court ruled prior to the 2010 event that handing out Christian literature in the proximity of the festival was allowed.
WND reported earlier that at least two people claim a crowd was cheering "Allahu Akbar!" while the Christians were led away in handcuffs for doing nothing more than engaging in peaceful dialogue and videotaping the event.
The Arab event was June 18 in Dearborn, where an estimated 30,000 of the city's 98,000 residents are Muslim.
The American Arab Chamber of Commerce announced the event was expected to draw "over 300,000 people from across the country, Canada and the Middle East." The festival covers 14 blocks and is free and open to the public.
All the Christian missionaries are from a Christian group called Acts 17 Apologetics.
Qureshi said people at the festival recognized his group from its visit in 2009. Last year, the Acts 17 Apologetics team was escorted from the grounds while being allegedly assaulted by security personnel and several attendees. The following is the group's footage of the incident:
This year, Qureshi said some attendees who recognized them "would come up to us, accusing us, threatening us, saying we were racists, saying they were going to hurt us and yelling curses and insults at us."
However, he said his group was able to engage in civil conversations with many people who initiated discussion. But then the group was arrested by local police. Each of the four are now free on bond.
"Paul, David, Negeen, and I went to the festival to see and comment on the situation," Qureshi wrote on his blog. "Thankfully, we recorded every second of our activity at the festival."
In Saieg's case, WND reported, a federal appeals court granted an emergency motion allowing him to hand out information about his faith at the same festival.
A three-judge panel from the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals, citing the precedent that even a minimal loss of a fundamental right is irreparable, granted the motion requested by the Thomas More Law Center on behalf of the Sudanese Christian.
Philadelphia PA also arrested Christians preached to queers in a public park.
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:34 am Post subject: Religious Persecution in Amerika
Mainstream media's plan to squash Christianity
Aug 4th Moved here from another thread of same subject.
June 25, 2010
Any title that explores media views on religion has to be an absorbing read. But little did we know what a good job writer S.E. Cupp would do in "Losing Our Religion: The Liberal Media's Attack on Christianity."
Cupp has presented a searing look at the liberal media that is woven into the very fabric of our nation, the ingrained bias that jettisons any type of journalistic ethics.
And the superb research and writing is only the tip of the iceberg, for Cupp … is a self-proclaimed atheist!
That's right. Atheist. No hidden agenda here. She isn't promoting a religion, jumping on a conspiracy theory or trying to convert anyone. She is out for the truth. That's the beauty of her book. She has simply thrown down the gauntlet and proclaimed to the 78 percent of Americans who profess faith that it's time to wake up before the mainstream media has us wondering why we can't say the word God in public, except to take his name in vain.
This same majority of people are being told what to think, who to vote for, what to buy, who to like and how to be stylish and intelligent through sound bites that don't resemble reporting. They are promoting. Promoting through creating, not covering stories. Cupp shines a light on advocacy journalism at its "best" (which means worst).
Carefully documented throughout, the reader will be shocked and amazed at the examples Cupp has brought to light.
Cupp explains the media's choice to "target Christian America is not a response to changing social mores. Rather it is a deliberate effort to change them."
She says the media is concerned with accomplishing the following: "The Judeo-Christian values that form the basis of American Democracy should be overthrown entirely – because a minuscule disgruntled minority finds them objectionable. Religious tolerance is crucial to the success and health of any democracy – but not when it is applied to the vast majority. A robust, fair and objective press is better for freedom than a hostile, biased, and corrupt one – but not if being objective competes with the media's ideological impulses. The spokespeople for our culture should commend good works, not mock them – unless those good works are being done by Christians. Civility and decency are disposable commodities when the values of the citizenry compete with the secular values of the press."
Not only does the "mainstream media" have a bias against Christianity, it doesn't even try to hide it! Conversely, the further away from Christian ideas and beliefs they get, the more "intelligent" they like to think they appear. Unfortunately, what is in essence bias is perceived as truth by unsuspecting Americans that still believe the media report the facts.
The mainstream media has an agenda, and it is well documented by Cupp in a way that will keep you riveted to the pages. Her insight, no punches pulled, with a sprinkling of witty style of writing is refreshing and insightful. She examines interviews, and, with her unique flair, gives insight into what is really being planted in the minds of the audience.
From the first few pages readers will be shocked to realize how deep the bias goes. Quotes and conversations are well documented, researched, critiqued and presented in a passionate yet honest way.
Particularly interesting is the media's coverage and promotion of candidates in the 2008 presidential election. Obama sat under the teachings of the radical Reverend Wright for years. Even when his scary beliefs were brought to light, Obama was portrayed by the media as intelligent and wholesome.
Newsweek ran a story in July of '08 entitled, "What Obama Believes". The profile was "a fascinating look at the spiritual life of a man who was raised secular but chose to become a Christian." In all actuality, Reverend Wright turned out to be a racist, anti-American Black Liberation theologian. When the media had to finally recognize the fact (after Obama had to dump the Reverend due to the political upheaval), they were quick to assure the public that it wasn't Obama's problem. It wasn't a big deal at all that our future president listened to 20 years of fanatical rhetoric. It just made him smarter and more sophisticated.
On the other hand, Sarah Palin was bashed for her religious faith. Numerous examples are cited where she was belittled, ridiculed and made to look like a snake-handling, witch-burning, out-of-control Evangelistic Christian (the most dangerous kind), even though her religious views closely match the majority of our population.
That Cupp is an atheist shouldn't be off-putting, especially to Christians. This is an important book and a courageous one by an author who is willing to stand alone.
All free countries – those who embrace faith – need such lone voices, in every era.
Yep, another reason why I stay away from tv nowdays...
June 25, 2010 By Paul Proctor, NewsWithViews.com
Mindless mantras are an abomination to God
I recently came across a video clip that was taken from a popular television talk show called The View, where liberal co-host, Joy Behar and conservative co-host, Elizabeth Hasselbeck got into a heated on-air argument about prayer that is sure to evoke a rousing response from pulpits and pundits across America while creating lots of bubbly buzz for the alphabet network around the workplace water cooler, which is undoubtedly why ABC News posted it on their website – to get more bang for the gang.
As one might expect, little if any biblical truth emerged from the exchange, even among those on the show who are considered Christians. Whatever faith was present on the set that day was largely expressed with “I think” and “I feel” which reduces Christianity to an experiential expression of one’s own opinion rather than a clear and faithful proclamation of God’s Word – big difference. But then, that’s what today’s “Christianity” has become.
The topic was prayer, but at no time during that segment of the show did I hear Jesus Christ ever mentioned by name, much less quoted by any of the hosts. “God” was, however carefully referred to by co-host, Sherri Shepherd as “some-thing that is beyond us…” She did refer to Him later as “He,” though Behar jumped in near the end of the segment to say, “You don’t even know if it’s a female,” shortly after which they cut to commercial.
But, sadly, Shepherd’s witness was more pragmatic than biblical, saying things like: “…for a lot of people, faith and prayer works.” There was nothing about God’s love, power, mercy, grace, longsuffering, forgiveness or any other divine attribute. She didn’t even say “God works” – just “faith and prayer works” – promoting a human act rather than the Lord Himself.
All Hasselbeck could come up with in response was: “That prayer is protected as…in our freedoms of this country,” awkwardly leaning more on the Constitution and Bill of Rights than the “Everlasting Arms.”
Not surprisingly, Behar was clearly the most un-Christian in her comments, saying things like, “Faith is something that you feel – thinking is something that you do with your brain” – and in reference to people praying about the oil spill, she said: “Let’s see, who do I pray to, Tony Hayward of BP or God?”
Guest host, D.L. Hughley expressed his faith through punch lines, suggesting we only pray when we want something, saying, “We pray when we get in trouble… Like, to God we must be that kid that calls every time he needs some money… Like, God must hear us and go, ‘What happened now?’” He concluded his Christian witness by saying “Like, you can’t go to Heaven on an American passport… you have to have an individual relationship with God,” adding, “The reason that I think we constantly get in trouble, is we don’t pray for the right things… Maybe we should pray to learn the lessons of the past…”
I guess that was his gospel presentation.
The Behar/Hasselbeck debate went like this:
Behar: “When prayer takes the place of logical thinking, then I think it’s dangerous…then it’s dangerous.”
Hasselbeck: “Prayer’s not illogical.”
Behar: “No, but it takes the place of thinking.”
Hasselbeck: “No, it doesn’t. That’s a completely bigoted statement to say that when I’m praying, I‘m not thinking.”
When it was all said and done, the result was a dialectic disconnect that didn’t glorify God or scripturally edify anyone, but only engaged and enraged participants while leaving listeners to digest a lot of interfaith concepts and spiritual disinformation that muddied the waters of truth via groupthink.
“Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them... And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” – Ephesians 5:6-7,11
It may surprise those who were offended by Behar’s comments to learn that, although Hasselbeck was correct in her indignant response, Behar was not all wrong in saying prayer is “dangerous” when it “takes the place of logical thinking.”
You see, there are those in the Church today who practice what is called “Contemplative Prayer” – a New Age style mantra that is all about emptying one’s mind to allegedly “find God within” by repeating certain words or phrases over and over until the mind is disengaged and no longer thinking – achieving an altered state of consciousness or (alpha state) known as “The Silence” which is indeed “dangerous” considering it opens one up to what the Bible calls “familiar spirits” (demonic influences). It’s rooted in Eastern Mysticism where it is more commonly referred to as “Transcendental Meditation.”
Though Contemplative Prayer is widely practiced in the Emerging Church, it has unfortunately found its way into more traditional churches of late, especially among young people, thanks in part to a host of “Christian” authors who promote it as “Contemplative Spirituality” or “Spiritual Formation.” There is also “Centering Prayer,” “Breath Prayers” and “Lectio Divina” – all of which attempt to achieve the same trance-like state.
Lighthouse Trails Research, an excellent source of information on the topic, defines the occult practice and movement this way:
“Contemplative Spirituality: A belief system that uses ancient mystical practices to induce altered states of consciousness (the silence) and is rooted in mysticism and the occult but often wrapped in Christian terminology. The premise of contemplative spirituality is pantheistic (God is all) and panentheistic (God is in all). Common terms used for this movement are "spiritual formation," "the silence," "the stillness," "ancient-wisdom," "spiritual disciplines," and many others.
Spiritual Formation: A movement that has provided a platform and a channel through which contemplative prayer is entering the church. Find spiritual formation being used, and in nearly every case you will find contemplative spirituality. In fact, contemplative spirituality is the heartbeat of the spiritual formation movement.”
Now, considering Joy Behar’s other absurd views on faith, this probably wasn’t what she had in mind, but the show does illustrate a new spirituality at work, where nefarious notions and New Age nonsense are advanced or accepted wittingly or unwittingly by both sides of the political and ideological spectrum through pride-filled and emotionally charged confrontations that do little more than stir controversy and draw crowds with empty religious rhetoric that in the end always diverts attention away from God’s Word and our dire need of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.
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