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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: The Vatican, the 666 beast and the antiChrist  Reply with quote

   


666 * Beast * antiChrist
October  4,  2010    When I see US Colleges need a govt license, THAT is a HUGE Beast control indicator!

WHO are The Beast and False Prophet
Where is the Mark of the Beast  -  IN  or  ON?

And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence,
by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image
these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.
Revelation 19:20

If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger;
and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night,
those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.
Revelation 14


This video is worth watching and the Duduman link is worth reading.
So many prophetic things appear to CONFLICT.
Perhaps as time moves along - faster and faster - they will not conflict.

The Beast and False Prophet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn...v8&feature=player_profilepage


This is a vision in the spirit I was given about the Beast and the False Prophet.
Read a scathing article about Obama written by Isaac Kohn of Israel called
America's Deadly Roller Coaster
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/9089

Obama isthe beastm and the  media is the false prophet.
As there is a Holy Trinity, so it there and unholy trinity

IF YOU TAKE THE MARK - YOU ARE DAMNED
NO TURNING BACK


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NOW read this

Dumitru DUDUMAN said the POPE is The Beast

The Beast Strikes
January 21, 1995

I saw a helicopter which hovered above them.  On the side of the helicopter there was a plank
like on a ship, where soldiers were lined up, dressed in black, all armed the same, and of about the same size.
From the center of the helicopter, a platform began to raise up.  It rose higher than the helicopter itself.

On the platform was a throne.  The Pope was on the throne, yelling with a loud voice,
"I have been given the power to rule the earth and to fight against the Protestants, that I may overtake (kill) them."
http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_33.php

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very interesting topic - a couple of sources I've read, they've described the 1st beast/false prophet systems as WORLD systems, not so much men.

1st beast being Rome/Vatican

False prophet being the United States, for the reason being that it disguised itself as a Christian nation, but underneath was just the opposite(i.e. most of our founding Fathers were Masons, among others, that wrecked havoc in this world).
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

God's Word says:  Rev. 19
19- And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.

20- These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."

These are clearly human beings and not "systems."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fight!   I'll settle this.    You're both right.   LOL!

A "beast" can be a "system" and one or more individuals.
I would have to say that every beast will have at least one human representative (King, president, ruler, etc.) on earth.  

This can easily be seen in Daniel chapters 7 and 8 with the discussion of multiple beasts.  
In Daniel Chapter 7 it specifically mentions that these four  beast's are four men.  
In chapter 8 you have a goat (Grecia) with one horn which represents its ruler and a ram with two horns which are the kings of Media and  Persia.

 You can also have one beast with multiple heads, crowns and horns.
 This would be a "beast system" with a confederation of leaders.  These leaders may function independently
(EX: one defeating three horns) or as the group.

My own opinion (at this time, subject to change), is that the description of a beast is a picture of the controlling spirit over these different kingdoms.

 I speculate that the spirits have been the same throughout history, but have ruled different people and over different areas.  
Angels fight them and can restrain them.  Each spirits power can change over any region or people and is reflected by the various battles that have become the world's  history.

I believe that Daniel Chapter 8 is about the powers that have been focused around the Iraq war.  
President George Bush conquered Iraq in the name and power of "democracy."  Democracy was birthed, and is the spirit of Greece.  
This was the same spirit that empowered Alexander the great to accomplish the same.  
I believe the ram is Islam with its two horns, today the Shia and Sunni.

Toward the end of President Bush's presidency, he either lost or simply forfeited his power to four others
(Dan 8:22   Shia, Sunni, Kurds, Obama).  

This was finally manifested in the election of President Obama.  Our land is now ruled by a different spirit/beast than in the past.  
I cannot describe that beast at this time except to say that one of its fruits is probably fascism.  
Some of his other fruits are described in Daniel 8:25.

Dan 8:25   And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand;
and he shall magnify [himself] in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many:
he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

The beasts in Revelation 13 are Confederacy's.  
The Sea Beast having 7 heads, 10 horns and 10 crowns.  
And the earth beast having two horns like a lamb and speaking like a dragon.  Again, multiple human rulers but one beast.  (Controlling spirit).

John
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: Has GOD abandoned AmeriKa? Reply with quote

O AmeriKa, Amerika!  You kill God's messengers!
I have wanted to protect you, but your sins will not let Me.
And now you are abandoned, you will not see Me again until you say,
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!


I edited Luke 13 to America, read it online
http://bible.cc/luke/13-35.htm

Has GOD abandoned AmeriKa?

AMERIKA!!  We Have LOST Our LIBERTY!


This nation was founded on FREEDOM.
Freedom TO worship our GOD
NOT freedom FROM worship!



The LORD has departed, ICHABOD AMERIKA, and you do not know it!
September 11, 2001 He lifted His Hand of protection and allowed a terrible catastrophe to warn us to REPENT,
but the nation continued to sin, continued to legalize sin.

The blood of babies slaughtered cruelly in the womb has cried out to heaven.

The abomination of same sex sex has become legal in too many states, and is practiced in all states.

Yes worldwide, and GOD is also judging the world with His righteous judgments.

The buildings that call themselves churches no longer preach God's written word.
They choose what is popular, what will not offend the undisciplined sin in their midst.

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Sometimes I think we dont need to identify the beast.
I know the Vatican and this pope are evil.
I know Barak Hussein 0bama is an evil pathological liar.
I see evil everywhere I turn today.  WE NEED to discern evil.

I know there is a shadow govt  (globalists, illuminati, whatever)
Is this the beast?  -  Is this mystery babylon?
Does it matter?  It is exceedingly evil.

The time is coming when I will send famine on the land. People will be hungry, but not for bread.

They will be thirsty, but not for water. They will hunger and thirst for a MESSAGE FROM THE LORD.
I, the Sovereign LORD, have spoken.

People will look everywhere for A MESSAGE FROM THE LORD, but they WILL NOT find it.

Amos 8

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just, for the first time, watched the video at the beginning of this thread.  It is amazing that I brought up President Obama, without even knowing that he was the subject of the video.  He definitely is one of many Antichrists, but I would not give him the title of the final Antichrist at this time.  

Yes, he has all of the characteristics, but actually I do not think he is that bright.  Maybe after he acquires a few more demons, he might reach that level.   LOL!  I thought that the last Bush, and now possibly Obama, would be set up as a "false antichrist."  

The real final Antichrist would present himself as the returning messiah and defeat one of them claiming that they were the Antichrist.  I still believe that this might be the scenario and the greatest deception.  "The powers that be" double cross one of their own and therefore "fulfilling" what most people expect.

The final players in these roles are speculation for most at this time.  The Holy Spirit will reveal their identities to the believers "in the fullness of time."  It will come as a "revelation" with the understanding following.

With that said, a few years ago while studying Revelation Chapter 13, I thought the Holy Spirit was joking with me when I connected the "sea beast" with NATO ("north Atlantic" ocean - sea).  To my surprise that association would return about a year later but with more seriousness.  Eventually the revelation was that NATO was the teeth of the sea beast.  And I'm not saying that this sea beast is only European.  Only that a predominant military force (teeth ) would be made up of NATO forces.  Within a year NATO forces were participating in the "peace agreement" between the modern state of Israel and Lebanon.  This first beast is definitely difficult to describe and with multiple facets.

I am beginning to believe that the beast that comes out of the earth may be what most people consider the Antichrist and the false prophet.  This beast is exercising the same power as the first beast.  Somewhat similar to the whore sitting on a scarlet beast.  (A beast that controls another beast?).  This "Earth beast" has two horns like a lamb and speaks as a dragon.  The horns in Daniel are the kings or rulers.  And in Daniel chapter 8 the two horns are on the ram (male lamb) that represented Media and Persia.  I believe that this is actually Islam today with the two horns being Shia and Sunni.  They are awaiting their "savior" the Madhi.  The Madhi is supposed to have a sidekick named "Jesus."  I am expecting the next pope to be this "Jesus" and the Madhi to be the Antichrist.  Please note that they well "speak as a dragon."  They will be empowered by Satan.

All speculation is subject to further revelation.

Shalom, John
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan 7:8   I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan 7:20   And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.

Dan 7:24   And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.



COULD THIS BE THE THREE HORNS GETTING READY TO BE "PLUCKED"?


http://www.zerohedge.com/article/...strike-iran-president-expects-war


War Council Convened In Damascus Past Friday To Prepare For Israeli Strike, Iran President Expects War "Between Spring And Summer"


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/01/2010
   
Abu Dhabi Media website The National has disclosed some rather disturbing news about peace "prospects" in the middle east. It appears this past Friday saw a war council convene in Damascus, between Syrian president Bashar al Assad, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hizbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah to "devise counterattack plans and assign tasks in the event of an Israeli offensive on one or all parties, wrote Abdelbari Atwan, the editor-in-chief of the pan-Arab newspaper Al Quds al Arabi." And more troublingly, "the Iranian president said he expects war to break out somewhere between spring and summer of this year. Meanwhile, the Hizbollah chief vowed to strike the Israeli capital, its airports and power stations if Israel dared to attack Beirut’s critical infrastructure."Let's recall that Goldman's most recent 2010 and 2011 WTI estimates call for prices to rise to $90 and $110/bbl, respectively.

More from The National:

   “The timing of the meeting, the way it was undertaken and the ensuing press conference that was held at its conclusion, all point to a strategic coalition being reinforced. This is the build-up of a new front that will spearhead the confrontation with the US-Israeli alliance and whichever Arab countries that may, expressly or implicitly, be affiliated with it.”“Indeed, we are being exposed to a new discourse here, an unprecedented sense of self-confidence and an unheard-of preparedness for retaliation.”

What is more troubling for the US is that any potential effort to rekindle a relationship with Iran is now dead and burred, as the new axis seems to involve exclusively Syria.

   For its part, the Syrian leadership appears to have made up its mind to close off the US administration’s “trite and cheap” flirtation with Damascus and opted for bolstering its tactical partnership with Tehran.

Surely this is now just another white swan in a sea of black, which has been duly factored in to various asset prices and what not.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was reading Daniel again the last couple of days - Chapter 11 really caught my attention - it said how the AC will come by FLATTERIES.

No - it's not like Satan is going to come and behead the enemies first(in particular, the Christians, of course), he's going to SOFTEN EVERYONE UP as much as possible through his false signs, lying wonders, and sweet talk.

I mean we're already witnessing today's church being softened up via "Purpose Driven Life", Bill Hybels junk, et al.

Also - read the first 25 verses of Acts again - when Jesus returns, fire(and other signs like lightning) will come out of heaven FIRST, and THEN he comes back. From what I understand, when the AC(whether it's Maitreya or whoever) emerges to deceive the world, he will come as like a 'man of peace', and THEN SECONDLY he'll show those false wonders like fire coming down from the sky.

So yeah - especially with time running short, it's best to read our bibles CAREFULLY during these tough times - Satan knows the bible back and forth, and will deceive, but he will likely do alot of things BACKWARD.
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Matthew 16:18
I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/16-18.htm


Who is The Rock?
YESHUA, Christ Jesus, the Messiah is The
Rock on which the Christian Church is built
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ROCK
is a play on words.  In the original mss its clear, in translations its not clear.
Jesus told Peter he was just a little pebble.
The Lord Jesus Christ is the Rock, was the rock in the desert from which the Israelites drank.  

The true Church is built on the LORD JESUS CHRIST - NOT Peter.
The vatican, pope are the devils cult which has deceived millions into HELL.
The true Church is invisible, has neither wall nor demonation.


FAITH * The ROCK is Christ
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about1362.html


1 Corinthians 10:4
All drank the same spiritual drink. For they were drinking from the spiritual Rock accompanying them, and that rock was Christ. (The Messiah).
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/10-4.htm


The false prophet Obama meets the Beast pope
Mar 27, 2014
Barack Hussein Obama arrives in Rome March 26 on Air Force One.
Obama will meet Pope Francis at the Vatican for talks on a shared agenda.  (UN Agenda 21)
Unpopular Obama hopes the popes popularity will rub off on him.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-meets...oks-catholic-boost-020914918.html
http://biblehub.com/esv/revelation/13.htm

VATICAN
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