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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

April 14,  2012  
Richmond eaglecam was not working for days, techs tried to fix it, causing the eagle parents NOT to return to the nest to feed their chicks.
April 13 a CCB biologist and a wildlife vet went to the nest. The biologist climbed the tree, removed the eagles for hydration and feeding.
Richmond chicks fed by biologist who climbed nest tree.  They were observed self feeding. They ate all they fish left on the nest.

Dr. Watts April 14
The adult eagles are still perched in the trees nearby the nest. They have defended the nest against any intruders and obviously their instincts are still intact.
Chicks were assessed by the vet and are totally healthy. Dr. Watts has decided to eliminate any distractions from the adults,
so he is going back up tonight to take down the camera and the chicks will be fed again.
He wants to give these chicks every opportunity to be raised by their parents.


Richmond eagles nest cam broke April 12 so Dr Dave, WVC and Dr Watts removed cam, fed chix April 14
ASTONISHED HOW BIG those chicks are!

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...hmond-eagle-chicks-97362-vi-36683

Richmond Eagles blog, public
http://www.facebook.com/pages/CCB...Eagle-Nest-Camera/195741607187952

Cam image April 12, the Last Night of Camera.  It was removed April 14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U64oyHoJmKo


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

April 14,  2012  --   TROUBLE  

Richmond eagles nest cam broke April 12 so Dr Dave, WVC and Dr Watts removed cam, fed chix April 14
ASTONISHED HOW BIG those chicks are!

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...hmond-eagle-chicks-97362-vi-36683

CCB EAGLES
http://ccb-wm.org/virginiaeagles/eaglevideo.html

April 15, 2012 Richmond eagles

Bryan Watts, director of CCB
Vet Dr. Dave McRuer, director of veterinary medicine at the Wildlife Center of Virginia, a wild-animal hospital in Waynesboro

Vet feeds eaglets April 13, 2012  Friday
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...ientists-say-theyre-ok-ar-1842760

Eagle Cam comes to end; chicks being fed by hand April 14
The Richmond Eagle Cam came to an abrupt end Saturday as scientists dismantled the equipment to eliminate any distraction that might be keeping the parent birds from feeding their chicks.
The crisis erupted Friday when the parent birds didnt return to the nest to feed their two chicks.

Experts fed the chicks by hand Friday night and late Saturday afternoon. The plan now is to keep the area around the nest quiet so that the parents resume feeding the chicks.
Bryan Watts hopes that these birds will now come back.

If not, Watts plans to put the chicks in the nest of other eagles along the James River. Eagles will care for chicks that aren't theirs. The chicks could be moved as soon as today.

Parent birds soared and cackled above the nest as cam people took cam down.
They are still responding.

Dave McRuer gave chix fluids through a tube placed just under the skin.
Birds snapped up the chopped fish offered with a forceps.

It's unclear why Virginia and James aren't feeding the chicks. The adults haven't abandoned the nest, because they continue to fly and perch nearby.
It's possible that workers on the ground trying to repair the Eagle Cam spooked the birds last week.
Watts said the parents behavior was mystifying. Watts was proud of the way the Eagle Cam brought nature to the public but was clearly distressed about how the project ended.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...end-chicks-being-fed-b-ar-1843259

UPDATE  April 15, 2012
Virginia and James (Richmond eagle parents) continue to show interest in their nest, giving scientists hope that the birds will soon resume feeding their two chicks.
If the parents do not resume the feedings soon, eagle expert Bryan Watts plans to put the chicks in other nests along the James River.
Eagles will care for chicks that are not theirs.
They will NOT remove the chicks today, giving the parents at least another day to return to the nest.
James perched near the nest this morning, and Virginia continues to fly nearby.
We can't justify pulling the chicks as long as they are showing interest of this sort.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...-may-resume-feeding-ch-ar-1844196


Eagle chicks may be moved to other nests
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...being-fed-may-be-moved-ar-1841463

Dave McRuer fed both Richmond chicks
PHOTO Richmond Times-Dispatch

   

April 16, 2012  RICHMOND eagles
The eagle parents fed their chicks this morning! [/size]
I emailed Dr. Bryan Watts and got and email back very fast.
Email from Dr. Watts - Parent eagles fed thier chicks this morning!
Bryan Watts letter April 16
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about3100.html

Dr. Watt and the Richmond Times newspaper collaborated on eaglecam.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...ing-for-parents-return-ar-1844770


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's feast time in Richmond eagle nest
April 18, 2012
Rex Springsten  rspringston@timesdispatch.com
Eagle parents Virginia and James seem to be celebrating their return with a feast.
Both eagles brought in more fish Tuesday after bringing in fish Monday to end a three-day absence from their nest. Their two chicks are gobbling up the sudden bounty.

"It seems like a lot of food coming in," said Bryan Watts, director of the Center for Conservation Biology, a research group.
Virginia and James unexpectedly left their nest Friday, worrying scientists and fans. Experts fed the chicks by hand Friday and Saturday.

The parents, who continued to fly and perch in the area, returned to the nest Monday. Now, Watts said, "things seem to be on track."
Watts and his co-workers plan to monitor the nest until the chicks take flight in mid-June.
The 4 eagles had been the stars of the Richmond Eagle Cam, which drew more than 1.5 million page views from more than 130 countries.

Workers took down the camera Saturday as they sought to remove anything that might be bothering the parents. The Eagle Cam website now shows archived videos of the birds.
The Eagle Cam was a project of the conservation center and the Richmond Times-Dispatch.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...in-richmond-eagle-nest-ar-1849933

Eagles continue to do well; daily watch called off
April 19, 2012

The former Richmond Eagle Cam birds are doing so well that their human observers are stepping aside.
Scientists called off their daily nest watches, but they will still check on Virginia and James and their two chicks from time to time.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...o-well-daily-watch-cal-ar-1852787


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From CindyLou:
Cindy Haskell
I like the rest of you waited with worry and a hopeful heart for Mom & Dad’s return to the nest.
Late Sunday Night we got a call that my brother in-law (Mark 49 yrs old) had suffered a severe asthma attack and gone into cardiac arrest.
They were able to revive him but not before him sustaining severe brain damage,
they had him on life support so they could run test to see if he qualified to be an organ donor (per his wishes).

With a sleepless night and a heart so tight and heavy it felt like it would break I signed on to the cam early Monday to check on our eagles.
I can hardly explain how my heart felt like it opened up and sad tears to joy instantly to find that Mom & Dad had returned to the nest.
I felt an Inner Peace and a feeling of life renewed. I went into to chat to celebrate and wait for any updates with the rest of you.

I can’t Thank all you Mods and Chatters enough for (unknowingly) helping me thru a very difficult day.
Mark passed away immediately after being taken off life support, unfortunately he was not a candidate for them to be able to use his organs.
Although I grieve for him, I take comfort in knowing that Mark is now Soaring with the Eagles.
I thank you in advance for your well wishes I know things will get easier.
Always remember to show your Love to those you care about each and everyday.
Truly appreciative, Cindy Lou
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

 

April 20 -21 PHOTOS by oxbarb, center for conservation biology
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57766413@N05
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57766413@N05/7098851029/in/photostream

Little masked bandit heads peekin over nest rail sending us gratitude for our James Riverdance when they were in trouble!  Smile

For those curuious about the CATALINA California nest, click to page 5 of my 3 nests and scroll down to April 21 but dont if you dont want to know nature
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to enjoy eagles all year round you might want to get a delightful book on eagles, Eagle Christian:

http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Christian-Kenneth-Price/dp/0962122416
You can buy it used or new and the book is not a lengthy read.  

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Dr. Bryan Watts, director Center for Conservation Biology
April 20
 2:00 pm  chatroom
Dr. Watts gave a quick update and then replied to presubmitted questions.

It has been our great pleasure to be with you this spring and to share in watching the activities of this pair.  
We appreciate your interest in this pair and eagle ecology in general.  
As of about 10 minutes ago, the female is perched on her favorite limb and the chicks are doing fine.  
We are working on a way to provide regular updates on the chicks for you so stay tuned.

1:04 obxbarb: Ok, I will start with the questions now.

graycsam: Can you ask Dr. Watts how the cam being down will affect the grad students research?

DrWatts-ccb: Courtney continues to make direct observations of the nest onsite and continues to have a distant camera to monitor intrusions.
She was able to record the video feed from the nest camera for the duration of the incubation period and the first month of brood rearing.  
These development periods were the most important for her work.

JenCharlottesville: I was surprised that the eagles didn't go after the person who took out the eaglets.
Do eagles usually bother people in the nests for banding and such, or do they know they can't stop it?


DrWatts-ccb: Bald Eagles are amazingly passive toward humans.  
Unlike peregrine falcons, red-shouldered hawks and other raptor species that do defend nests, bald eagles typically will observe but not approach.
I have never been attacked by an adult eagle around the nest.

RICeagles-Dr. Watts indicated that R1 and R2 were smaller than what is to be expected at this age for VA Chesapeake Bay eagles.
To what would you attribute this size difference? Do you think the nest didn't have enough food?  


DrWatts-ccb: I have not meant to imply that these chicks are not within the normal size range but merely that they are
less developed than what we typically see lower on the James and elsewhere within the Bay where food appears to be more plentiful.  
Yes, I believe the somewhat lower provisioning rate has slowed their growth but they will do fine in the end.

luxe09: the Vet who looked a R2 noted that he had extra skin on the keel so I wanted to know if it was a problem.
DrWatts-ccb: I felt the birds when they came down from the nest and they were in great condition.  

palee02: It there anything that Dr. Watts learned from this experience, that can be used in the future? ?  
DrWatts-ccb: Yes, not so much about eagles but about people.  You have taught me that a great number of people do still care about eagles and the natural world.  

birdwarden: Are there plans to take pictures when R1 and R2 fledge??  
DrWatts-ccb: Yes, we will take photos periodically and share with the group.

Do eagles recognize their "children" for any length of time? ?  
DrWatts-ccb: Some bird species like crows that maintain strong family groups certainly do recognize relatives and others.  
Some raptors fall into this group of species but I know of no definitive tests of this possibility in bald eagles.  
This is a question that will receive increased interest as the population continues to move to saturation and the likelihood of juveniles returning to their natal territory increases.


Mom doesn't seem as adept at feeding both. Mom has mottled markings high on her tail feathers.
Do you think possibly mom is younger than dad?  Do you think this is the same Mom from the past 10 years?  


DrWatts-ccb: Although we have no way of knowing their age, I agree with you that in terms of skill level
the female does not appear to exhibit the same level of experience.
I have felt through the season that she is likely considerably younger than the male.

skeep125 Do the adults visit the nest after their offspring fledge?

DrWatts-ccb: Association with the nest varies considerably between pairs.  Some pairs here in the Bay roost at their nest or in the tree year round.
This pair does not seem to show that pattern.  They likely roost and spend most of the off season along the river.
This is a typical pattern that we see with pairs that are nesting in areas distant from foraging areas or within urban areas.

how long will fledglings return to birth nest?
Dr. Watts said "In addition to the immediate period following fledging we have growing evidence from banded birds and birds
that we are tracking that they may come back in following years."
Were they to return to the natal nest or to the parents' territory, would they be considered intruders

DrWatts-ccb: My experience with juveniles visiting their natal nest is within the first 3 years.  
I do not know how adults would respond as the birds reach breeding age but my guess is that they would be treated as intruders.

SeeingBirdz:  I saw male eagle enter another nest this year and kill the young. Will the male on another nest accept another chick not his own?

DrWatts-ccb: Intruder males kill chicks to break up nests and by doing so afford themselves a chance of taking the territory.  
Even if the territorial male is gone they will typically kill the chicks because they are unrelated.  
Depending on the timing this may cause the female to recycle so that he can raise his own young.
If a pair has chicks and others are added to the brood they will most often raise them if they are of similar age.  
Fostering has been a long-standing and successful management technique.  

SlimGMC: How many hummingbird nests can fit in an eagle's nest?  
DrWatts-ccb: For an average eagle nest here in the Bay that would be about 50,000 by weight or volume.  
However, I doubt that many could actually be fit in the space.  There is a connection between the two species that most people may not realize.  
As the eaglets get older they shed a tremendous amount of down that covers the nest.  
I have been in several eagle nests as they were visited by hummingbirds, gnatcathers, tanagers and other species collecting down to line their own nests.
Has anyone out there found a nest lined with eagle down?

cndray: What is Dr. Watts favorite eagle memory from his career working with them?

DrWatts-ccb: I have many good memories flying surveys or working in the field with eagles.
In 2004 I climbed into a nest on the Rappahannock that had 2 chicks. Most eaglets avoid eye contact with humans.  
But the youngest of the brood looked deep into my eyes and held my gaze no matter where I moved like a young child yearning for discovery.
That moment has never left me.  To fly along the Bay and see the hand of man moving into every field and woodlot
and not consider the universe of this eaglet is to ignore the deeper parts of ourselves.  

Skyeler: I have long heard and then read for myself Scott Neilsen's account of post mating lethargy in female eagles.
It has been quoted repeatedly as fact, yet Libby said that Dr. Byrd had expressed he had never observed such a thing.
I suspect it may have been an individual reaction in the one nest Mr. Neilsen observed one year.
So, my question is this, do female eagles have a post-mating lethargy as a common behavior? Or might this be an individual response?


DrWatts-ccb: I am not aware of this behavior though it could be brief and subtle.  Females will often fly off immediately after mating.

OK I seemed to have had a rebellious mouse with this question!

RICeagles- I realize that the time would be at least 5 years, but has there ever been a study done that examines
how an eagle’s experience in the nest effect their behavior as parents?


RICeagles- I realize that the time would be at least 5 years, but has there ever been a study done that examines
how an eagle’s experience in the nest effect their behavior as parents?

DrWatts-ccb: I know of no long term study that has examined such behaviors.  
However, I would be very surprised if some of the experiences of the chicks before independence are not carried over to their own breeding.


skeep125 Do the adults visit the nest after their offspring fledge?

DrWatts-ccb: Association with the nest varies considerably between pairs.  Some pairs here in the Bay roost at their nest or in the tree year round.
This pair does not seem to show that pattern.  They likely roost and spend most of the off season along the river.
This is a typical pattern that we see with pairs that are nesting in areas distant from foraging areas or within urban areas.
In response to the question "how long will fledglings return to birth nest?" Dr. Watts said "In addition to the immediate period following fledging we have growing evidence from banded birds and birds that we are tracking that they may come back in following years." Were they to return to the natal nest or to the parents' territory, would they be considered intruders

DrWatts-ccb: My experience with juveniles visiting their natal nest is within the first 3 years.  I do not know how adults would respond as the birds reach breeding age but my guess is that they would be treated as intruders.

1:20 obxbarb: Alright, Dr. Watts is working on a presentation, so I'm going to let him go for now.  Thank you very much for taking time today for us.  We miss the eagles!
1:21 DrWatts-ccb: It has been great to be with you.  Thanks for all of your interest.
1:21 obxbarb: chat unpaused


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like government, eagle cam intruded too far
April 21, 2012  The RT editor speaks of 'intruding' on baby eagles.
He relates it to government intrusion into our lives to 'help' families feed their children through the food stamp program.
Like the eagle cam, we have unintended consequences.
The eagle parents said, "Heck, why should we feed the children when someone else will?"
We have pushed the parents aside because others think they can do a better job.
Comments Editor, Times-Dispatch
Ron Melancon,  Glen Allen VA  
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...rrespondent-of-the-day-ar-1857970

I wasnt going to post this here but we all need to learn to discern everything, so start here.
He is probably very political - so am I!  I'm just pulling out a couple of his comments I liked because he has a point to make.
He is both right and wrong.  I am not going to make a political statement.
I posted this so y'all wont go all bonkers about this guys comment.  Smile

Ron has made a general judgment about us - and made a foolish comparison to the Richmond eagles.  He has stirred up a hornets nest, unfortunately.
Some who watch cams have jobs, some are ill, or on Social Security which they paid into all their working life.
Some are kids in school classrooms studying nature.

RESPONSE to Ron Melancon April 28, 2012
Male bald eagles faithful to ONE mate?  No!
Eagles and humans both exhibit bad behavior
Editor, Times-Dispatch

Correspondent of the Day Ron Melancon compares feeding the eagle chicks shown on the eagle cam with the government food stamp program,
suggesting both promote dependency. One is free to make his own assessments of the federal food stamp program,
but his facts regarding the eagles are incorrect.

The Center for Conservation Biology placed numerous cameras around eagle nests as part of various scientific studies.
We felt that it was reasonable to use one of the cameras to allow the public to learn something about the eagles.
We were fortunate to be able to partner with The Times-Dispatch to bring this to fruition.
The fact that a million and a half people viewed the site would suggest this goal was achieved.

Unfortunately and inexplicably, the two adults abandoned the nest.
After 2 days biologists decided that supplemental feeding was required.
They were fed twice before the adults returned.

If one really wants to make comparisons between eagle behavior and human behavior, there are many parallels.
We have observed fratricide, cannibalism, starvation and nest abandonment, all traits in our human societies.

We know of at least one case where a male eagle had a female at each of two nests at which
he was providing all the services required to promote successful reproductive activity.
This sounds remarkably akin to bigamy in humans.  (Does that make the NBG male a trigamist - with 3 females?)

The public has long viewed eagles as well as most pairs of other birds, turkeys and others being exceptions,
as being monogamous and altruistic in their behavior. Nothing could be further from the truth.
DNA studies of young in nests and the attendant male of the pair have shown that in some cases as many as
80% of the young do not belong to the male of the pair at the nest.

Dr. Mitchell A. Byrd, retired Chancellor Professor of Biology
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/new...-letters-to-the-editor-ar-1874861
http://ccb-wm.org/byrdchair/byrdchair_byrd.htm

NBG nest 2012 the male had 3 females and mates with all 3, produced no egg
His mate of several years was killed in April 2011
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