Axis shift in Turkey
April 2 Trust in Turkey diminishing due to growing concerns about fundamental freedoms.
Perhaps sending terrorists on ships to attack Israel, and aligning with Iran and China influences this.
There is an erosion of confidence in Turkey rhetoric. I for one am laughing.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/...-to-akp-is-diminishing-2011-03-31
April 13, 2011
Israel does not object to legal transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza
A year ago (May 2010) Turkey sent terrorists on a jihad floatilla to provoke war with Israel.
Israel told the Turkish government Israel does not object to legal transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza, and asked Turkey to stop the May 2011 flotilla.
The Gaza crossing is open. The Marmara jihad ship will take part again, departing from Europe with 15 other vessels.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4056098,00.html
Flotilla terrorists ask Europe for protection from Israel WHAT!?!
Organizers of a new flotilla to deliver aid to Gaza have called on European states not to bow to pressure from Israel to stop their mission and have asked for protection from Israel. Jihad on Israel Flotilla 2 is expected to sail to Gaza soon, a year after Turkish terrorists tried to kill Israeli forces on a similar mission.
Israel has appealed to the UN and European nations to stop the flotilla.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-2...e-for-protection-from-israel.html
Turkey ditches Assad, calls off participation in Gaza flotilla
May 25, 2011
Just because Turkey claims they gave up the floatilla does NOT mean that is true.
http://www.debka.com/article/20967
Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them, all of them with shield and helmet,
Gomer, and all his bands, the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands, and many people with them.
Ezekiel 38:5
Togarmah was the grandson of Noah and he settled in the area now known as Turkey.
We see by God's Word that Turkey will join those who will come against Israel, so we should not be surprised at recent developments in relation to the June 12th Election there.
I see a parallel in what is happening in Turkey and America.
The difference with events in Turkey is that they are 'in your face' whilst in the US they are hidden through lies and deceit emanating from the White House
and fomented by those who control this President. The parallel is very clear to see.
The will of the people has no real effect on those who are in power, for they will bring about their agenda regardless of what the masses want or demand.
I know a lot of Turkish people and I can tell you that for the most part they are a very friendly and peace loving people.
They don't want their country to be under the control of Islamic rule. They are proud of the fact that they are a free and secular country.
If you have ever been to Turkey you will have noticed two the people are very nice, hard working, and love their country with a deep passion.
Much like the average American - yet what they love about their nation is being stripped away from them by the New World Order.
These recent developments have posed a very serious problem for this Ministry.
It may be necessary for us to move the boat we keep in Turkey to a safer location.
We will be in Turkey soon and at that time make the judgment call on what has to be done.
It is very difficult to find a mooring for a 60-foot Gullet in the Greek Islands. In Cyprus there is NO mooring available anywhere.
The mooring price in Israel is nearly double, but that may be the only possible solution.
God is still in control and it is He who has and does control this Ministry.
Oftentimes we think we know what God is doing - only to find out later that He had something else in mind. His ways are not like ours.
Regardless of how spiritual we may believe ourselves to be, we still operate with a carnal mind in a materialistic world.
It is our goal to become more like Him. I have yet to meet the man or woman who has arrived at the place of perfection.
Those who walk led by God's Spirit will often find themselves being led to places and ways they were not aware of.
Much like Moses when he was directed to make the objects for the Holy or Holies that would later represent many things he knew nothing about.
There are decisions that have to be made in the next few weeks and there is in my spirit a certain knowledge that God is, and will be, moving us into place for His plan for this Ministry.
We will be making a few trips over the upcoming weeks and your prayers are asked for both our safety and God's direction to be made known to us.
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I don't know Barry Rubin, but he has written a very good and true article that someone sent to me. I want you to read it with your spiritual eyes open.
Prophecy is being fulfilled through what is transpiring in Turkey and it points to soon-coming events in the Middle East and the World.
On Sunday, June 12, Turkey will hold what might well be its most important elections in modern history.
It may also be the worst thing that’s happened to the country in modern history.
If the current regime is reelected, the emboldened Islamist regime will hit the accelerator in transforming Turkey into as much of an Islamist state as possible.
The ruling AK Party has been cautious, concealing its aims and pretending to be a center-right reform party. Many Turks have also accepted this notion.
Roughly only 12 percent want an Islamist state and around 30 percent will also vote for the current regime in the belief that it won't give that to them.
Yet as the AK has entrenched itself in power, put its cadre into institutions, undermined democracy, and paid virtually no international cost for doing so it has become more confident.
One might better say, arrogant. This election could well be the last straw pushing Turkey over the edge of the cliff.
That (should) spell the end of a U.S.-Turkish alliance that has endured 55 years. Turkey will be in the enemy camp.
(With 0bama in power, he will back any rabid jihad regime. Israel really has still not awakened to the fact that the U.S. govt no longer supports Israel. )
The Turkey-Israel alliance is long over (since 2009)
The Turkish government supports Iran, Syria, Hamas, and Hellzballah. The regime officially sponsors antisemitic hatred.
The hatred of the regime for Israel and Jews is pathological.
Nothing like it has been seen in Turkey during all of the centuries since the Turks arrived in Anatolia.
Many Jews are leaving or are getting prepared to do so.
If the regime gets a big enough majority it will rewrite the Turkish constitution.
Turkey, as we have known it, a secular democratic state since the 1920s, will no longer exist.
Of course, not everything will be obvious and happen overnight, but the repression we have already seen will increase.
The courts, the armed forces, and other institutions will be taken over by this Islamist government.
It will be a disaster for Western interests. And coupled with the same thing happening in Egypt, these events will catapult the region back a half-century or more into strife.
Meanwhile, the West snores on. Western media coverage of the Turkish regime is glowing.
Yet if one actually looks at what’s happening in the country, reading the Turkish-language media and talking to the
many Turks horrified by these developments, the picture is horrifying.
Here is an example of life in contemporary Turkey. The town of Hopa received a visit from Prime Minister Erdogan.
Opposition banners are removed by the police. When local people resisted, the police attacked.
A retired teacher who had been trying to negotiate with the police died.
Scores of journalists have been arrested and thrown into jail. One-third of the media has been bought up by the regime; much of the rest intimidated. Military officers, college professors, union leaders, activists, and peaceful critics of every description are thrown into jail on trumped up charges and kept there for months, years. The waiting time for a trial during which people are jailed is now three years. Yes, three years without proof of any wrongdoing.
A respected investigative journalist is arrested and accused of terrorism. His crime? Writing a critical book on Fathi Gulen, Turkey’s leading Islamist cleric. All of the copies of the manuscript are confiscated. Gulen controls the police.
Two other journalists are arrested. Their crime? Saying that they were about to publish documentation showing that the government’s claims of conspiracy, used to arrest so many, are bogus. Gareth Jenkins, a serious scholar, has gone through thousands of pages of court documents and shown that the hundreds of people imprisoned have not even been accused of any specific act. I know of a half-dozen journalists fired for daring to criticize the government. There are many more.
How to intimidate the media? Tax officials arrive and take over offices, going through all of the documents trying to find some technicality on which to bring charges. The largest media group in Turkey, the Dogan Group, was told that it owed $2.5 billion in penalties. That is not a typographical error. It is several times the worth of the entire company. The government demanded that they pay the fines first and then if they wanted they could go to court. To provide a partial payment and bank guarantees, the Dogan Group had to sell two newspapers.
People feel that they are watched, wire-tapped, and spied on. Turkey was never a perfect democracy. Yet this atmosphere is closer to that of a country under Communism than the Turkey they have known all their lives.
As a Turkish professor writes to me:
“There has been an air of terror where people are afraid to talk anymore, in public or over the phone or even behind closed doors against the government or Gulen movement. Who knows [whether] your words will be used against you in the future?”
Four prominent parliamentarians of the MHP party, the nationalist opposition, were forced to withdraw their candidacies in the forthcoming election after a mysterious website published video and audio of their involvement in illicit sexual activity. America has had its scandals recently. But the government using its intelligence assets to destroy its opponents systematically is something quite different.
Actually, since the process has not advanced so far, one can read about all of these things and more in some Turkish newspapers or be told of events by credible sources. The campaign of anti-Americanism is in the open. The daily preaching of hatred against Jews and Israel is in the open. The tightening links with Islamist movements and regimes is in the open.
As we know from leaks, the U.S. embassy in Turkey has reported many of the kinds of arguments and analysis I’m making. Yet the White House and the president are blind. On that reporting, check out Okan Altiparmak and Claire Berlinski, “The Wikileaks Cables on Turkey: 20/20 Tunnel Vision,” MERIA Journal, Vol. 14, No.4 (December 2010).
I don’t want to overstate the threat so feel free to assume I’m exaggerating. Subtract the proportion you want, take another look, and you’ll still see a great deal to be alarmed about.
The View from the White House
Perception of this revolutionary Islamist threat by Obama White House: Close to zero.
Actions taken by the Obama White House to counter it: Zero.
Principal enemy according to White House: Al-Qaida, which rules no population.
Main problem in the Middle East according to White House: Israel’s presence on part of the West Bank, ruling about 30,000 Palestinians directly (in Hebron) and the existence of settlements with about 300,000 Israeli settlers.
The View from the Middle East
Egypt has 82 million people; Iran has 78 million people. Turkey has 79 million people. Total: By the end of this year, almost 240 million people in those three countries alone will live under Islamist or radical anti-American regimes allied to them. Adding in the Gaza Strip, those under Hizballah control in Lebanon, and Syria brings the total to about 250 million. One-quarter of a billion people are going to be—many of them involuntarily--in the enemy camp. Call it the Crescent Curtain if you wish.
These countries and groups will not work together in every respect but they will work against the West, stability, democracy, and Israel’s existence.
The loss of Turkey—yes, I said it, loss—would be a tragedy of tremendous proportions to the West and, of course, the loss of liberty and democracy in Turkey would be most of all a tragedy for the Turkish people.
The event would be a tragedy; the failure to see what’s happening is shameful. In policy and analytical terms, it is the equivalent of criminal.
http://rubinreports.blogspot.com
TURKEY Election
June 13, 2011
The Arab Revolt, Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, Saudi, Syria and Hellzballah
Hardline jihad PM Erdogan won election victory, unfortunately.
Turkey is a member of NATO, I have to wonder for how long.
http://www.debka.com/article/21019
Turkey is in the final days of an election campaign that will affect one of America's biggest Middle East allies for years to come.
The elections center around one party and one man -- Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
In Istanbul, it's hard to escape posters of Erdogan, the head of the ruling Islamist party, the AKP. The polls point to a sizable victory for the AKP, and that would be the third straight election win for a party that worked hard to make one of the most secular Muslim nations on earth even more Islamic.
"I don't think we're going to go to sharia law, but many people fear we are going more and more to our Middle Eastern roots," Cansin Ilgaz told CBN News.
Political adversaries like Gursel Tekin, the No. 2 man in Turkey's main opposition party, say the world is now finally seeing the real Erdogan.
"The dear prime minister in America and Europe was very popular and they supported him in 2004 and 2007 and his mask looked very liberal," Tekin, vice president of Republican People's Party, told CBN News while he was campaigning in Instanbul.
"But now they see that he's not liberal," Tekin said. "He's restricted freedom and the journalists can't express themselves because of the prime minister. Therefore, the mind of Ergogan is fascist and it's a dictatorial regime."
Some accuse the AKP of using democracy to gain power and then limit freedoms. CBN News asked Erdogan's second in command, Egemen Bagis, about those charges.
"Turkey has never been as democratic as she is today. Some people might not enjoy the fact that Turkey's becoming a stronger country," Bagis said.
"We can understand their feelings, but Turkey's becoming more and more democratic every day," he said.
But if Erdogan's party wins a majority of seats in this election, some fear he'll re-write Turkey's constitution, set up a presidential system and consolidate his power.
The AKP party is closely linked to the worldwide Gülen Islamic movement, and some even feel he hopes to re-establish an Islamic caliphate with Turkey as its head.
Whatever the outcome of Sunday's elections, Turkey will be a different country come Monday. What kind of country is still to be decided.
That's why many Christians in the Middle East are praying for Turkey and the future of the region.
"As Christians we have a very special calling. No matter what the government is, whether it's evil or whether it's good, we need to pray for them," Turkish pastor Levent Kinrin told CBN News.
"We need to bless them," he added. "And we need to pray they would also recognize, realize the gospel of Jesus Christ, come to know it, come to accept it because God wants the salvation of all men."
June 4, 2011
Fetullah Gülen has been called the world's top public intellectual and the face of moderate Islam. He has held court with Pope John Paul II and received praise from former President Bill Clinton.
"You're contributing to the promotion of the ideals of tolerance and interfaith dialogue inspired by Fetullah Gülen and his transnational social movement," Clinton told audience members during a video address at the World Rumi Forum in 2010.
Yet others have branded Gülen a wolf in sheep's clothing and a modern day Ayatollah Khomeini. CBN News recently took a closer look at the the life of the reclusive imam who directs a global Islamic movement from the Pennsylvania mountains.
Master Teacher or Deceiver?
Gülen's story takes him from a small town in Turkey to founder of a multi-billion dollar Islamic movement bearing his name.
Despite a grade school-level education, the Turkish imam leads a worldwide following of some 5 million devotees. They refer to him as "Hoca Efendi," or master teacher.
"What is the endgame of this movement, which constitutes a multi-billion dollar budget, which constitutes thousands of high schools all around the world, to universities, NGOs, markets, banks?" Turkish journalist Tulin Daloglu asked, voicing a question many have raised.
Gülen claims to represent a moderate brand of Islam compatible with the modern world. He emphasizes interfaith dialogue and the pursuit of science.
Yet one expert told CBN News there's much more to the story.
"It's not just a religious movement; it's the Fetullah Gülen movement. They call themselves that. So it is, you can say, a cult. It is a highly personalized movement," Ariel Cohen, a Middle East analyst with the Heritage Foundation, said. Cohen has been tracking the Gülen movement closely.
"This is clearly the world according to the Koran, the world according to Islam, the world according to Fetullah Gülen," he told CBN News. "But what he's talking about is not the caliphate, is not the sharia state--he calls it the New World Islamic Order."
Cohen said some in the U.S. government and academia support reaching out to Gülen's followers as a way to counter al Qaeda and other jihadist groups.
"The idea being, just like people who say that we should have a good relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood, that these are 'mainstream Islamists,'" he explained.
But according to leading French-Turkish scholar Bayram Balci, Gülen's ideas are anything but "mainstream" for a Western society.
Balci writes that the movement "serve(s) to accomplish three intellectual goals: the Islamization of the Turkish nationalist ideology; the Turkification of Islam; and the Islamization of modernity."
"And therefore, (Gülen) wishes to revive the link between the state, religion, and society," he writes.
Critics claim Gülen wants Islam to play a more active role in societies, breaking down barries between mosque and state while also promoting Turkish nationalism and identity.
The Golden Generation Worship and Retreat Center, the worldwide headquarters of the Gülen movement, is located not in Ankara or Istanbul, but on 25 scenic acres of the Pocono Mountains in rural Pennsylvania.
Gülen came to America in 1998, reportedly to seek medical treatment. Since then, he's directed his global empire from Pennsylvania. A federal judge granted him a green card in 2008.
Shortly after he left for America, a series of secretly recorded sermons featuring Gülen aired on Turkish television. In one of them, he told his followers:
"You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers...You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it..."
"You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all in confidence. Know that when you leave here -- as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here."
After the tapes aired, Turkish authorities indicted Gülen on charges that he was plotting to overthrow the secular government of Turkey. The charges were eventually dropped.
Meanwhile, the Gülen movement continues to expand its influence through the construction of schools worldwide, including in America.
Currently, there are about 125 Gülen schools spread out over 25 states. One school in Philadelphia receives some $3 million annually in taxpayer money.
"They work through the education system. Their main tool is educating kids," Cohen told CBN News.
Gülen charter schools have nondescript names, like "Truebright Science Academy," and focus heavily on math and science.
Many of the teachers hail from Turkey. Federal authorities are reportedly investigating whether some employees kick back a portion of their salaries to the Gülen movement.
Classified documents released by WikiLeaks show that U.S. officials have concerns about the Gülen schools.
"We have multiple reliable reports that the Gülenists use their school network (including dozens of schools in the U.S.) to cherry pick students they think are susceptible to being molded as proselytizers," U.S. Embassy officials in Ankara said in a 2005 report.
"And we have steadily heard reports about how the schools indoctrinate boarding students," they said.
Meanwhile, in its birthplace of Turkey, the movement continues to grow. Gülen followers are said to make up at least 70 percent of Turkey's federal police force, ostensibly devoted to their master teacher half a world away in the Pocono Mountains.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/...ement-The-New-Islamic-World-Order
June 25, 2011 IT's a TRAP!!!
After more than a year of strained relations (worse than just strained, Turkey ATTACKED Israel by sea in May 2010!),
Turkey has decided to restore ties with Israel as Ankara heads for a showdown with Syria.
Obama and Netanyahu gave Turkey a role in Israeli-Palestinian diplomacy. Idiots.
http://www.debka.com/article/21061
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PM Erdogan may visit Gaza, backtracks on reconciliation with Israel
July 20, 2011 DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
Oh come on! He HATES Israel, and never intended peace! Turkey has delusions of being the major power in the mideast.
Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan wants to visit Gaza July 24
Jerusalem rightly sees this as Turkey deliberately thumbing their nose at Israel, not a peace effort.
Egypt likes this plan, as it is one more step in the all out Arab attack on Israel.
0bama knew Erdogan would be visiting Cyprus and Cairo, Egypt.
Egypt is seeking a way to transport Erdogan from Cairo to Gaza.
Israeli permission is needed to fly him over by helicopter.
Erdogan stands by his unreasonable demand that Israel apologize for the deaths aboard the Turkish terror ship
a year ago. Turk terrorists aboard attacked and tried to kill IDF troops who boarded the ship,
after Turkey tried to start war with Israel by ramming the Gaza blockade.
THE GUILT is SOLELY TURKEY, and Turkey owes Israel the apology
Netanyahu: Israel won't back down in Turkey confrontation
9/4/11
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday refused to give ground in an increasingly harsh diplomatic confrontation with Turkey, once his country's strongest ally in the region.
The two countries are at odds over last year's Israeli raid on a ship trying to break its blockade of Gaza.
Netanyahu said Sunday that his country did not need to say it was sorry for the incident, in which nine people aboard the Mavi Marmara were killed and several Israeli troops were injured.
"The state of Israel has the full and basic right to defend itself," he said, and would not apologize for "the fact that our warriors protected themselves against an attack" or "for working to stop smuggling of weapons to Hamas ... to defend our citizens, our children and our cities."
But he said Israel "regrets the loss of human life" and hopes "that the way will be found to overcome the differences with Turkey. Israel never wanted its relations with Turkey to deteriorate, nor does it want them to deteriorate right now."
ALL AID IS LEGALLY PERMITTED BY TRUCK OVER LAND.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO LEGITIMATE NEED TO ATTACK ISRAEL BY SEA!
Turkish PM Erdogan announces Ankara's ships will escort aid vessels headed to Gaza.
Jerusalem: Rhetoric concerning but will not impact Gaza blockade.
Turkish warships will escort any Turkish aid vessels to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4119834,00.html
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Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan moved his country toward an armed clash with Israel,
he covets the gas and oil resources of the eastern Mediterranean opposite Israel's shores.
Sept. 8, he announced that Turkish warships will escort any Turkish aid vessels for Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
He has taken steps to stop Israel from rightfully owning natural resources from the eastern Mediterranean which they LEGALLY bought from Cyprus.
PRAY FOR CYPRUS!
He did not say what steps he had taken. However, for some time now, he has moved mountains to isolate Israel by drawing a double diplomatic noose around it.
If Turkish ships breach the Israeli naval blockade of Gaza, which a UN report last week pronounced legitimate under international law, Erdogan will become the first Muslim leader to embark on military action in the Palestinian cause.
The Arab nations which fought Israel time after time in the past will be made to look ineffectual and the Turkish leader the regional big shot.
Even Iran would be put in the shade for never daring to provoke Israel the way Turkey has.
http://debka.com/article/21282
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CYPRUS NEEDS URGENT PRAYERS!
September 9, 2011 Friday
Turkey is threatening to attack Cyprus over natural gas from its territorial waters.
This information came from someone I know living on Cyprus.
Little or nothing about this is on the news media. News are very selective in what they report.
Turkey owns part of northern Cyprus but most is Greek.
CYPRUS has no army to defend itself, they are depending in political support and Christians praying.
Turkish propaganda is very effective all over the world, and it is anti-Israel.
CYPRUS has been a very good friend to Israel. Cyprus legally sold drilling rights to Israel and Israel has found gas and oil in the Mediterranean ..
now the evil muslim nations want the oil Israel found.
All Cyprus trouble is due to them being fair to Israel.
Arabs didnt care when Israel drilled ... but when their toil struck oil - Lebanon said GIMME!
The world is headed to a universal Goverment and currency - 666 - the beast system of Revelation 13.
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Cyprus, Israel move closer on East Med gas
Aug 26, 2011 Nicosia, Cyprus (UPI)
The governments of Cyprus and Israel, which both have seemingly intractable problems with Turkey, are moving closer together over the increasingly thorny
issue of vast natural gas fields under the eastern Mediterranean.
The energy dispute, which already has Israel and neighboring Lebanon threatening each other, has spurred a major geopolitical realignment in the region
where oil and natural gas have long been in short supply and heightened tensions.
Over 122 trillion cubic feet of gas and around 4 billion barrels of oil lie under the continental shelf that runs south from Syria and Lebanon before curving westward to Egypt.
http://www.energy-daily.com/repor...e_closer_on_East_Med_gas_999.html
Israel finds huge natural gas reserve
A huge deep-water natural gas find off the coast of Israel promises to be a boon to the Israeli economy
as well as a stimulus to other developers searching for offshore oil and natural gas in the Mediterranean.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=86865
Cyprus wants Israeli support in offshore drilling spat
August, 2011
Nicosia, Cypriot in conflict with Turkey over exploration rights,
Israeli PM responds - Jerusalem interested in cooperating in energy field
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=235301
CYPRUS has foiled some of the Muslim jihad flotillas to Gaza by terrorists.
Turkey is planning another war on Gaza - and Cyprus will likely be right in the middle.
jihad flotillas, many pages
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about657.html
Turkey asks US to base Predator drone on Turkish soil Ah yes, come have tea with me, said the spider to the fly.
The drones would quickly be used against Israel, and Obama knows it, and loves it.
11 September 2011, Sunday
The United States is considering a request from Turkey to base a fleet of Predator drones on its soil for cross-border operations against terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) targets in northern Iraq, a news report said on Sunday.
The Obama administration has not yet made a decision on the Turkish request, the report in Washington Post said. The Predators have been flying from Iraqi bases since 2007 and the US shares data from the planes' surveillance with Turkey as part of the two NATO allies' cooperation against the PKK. Now that the US forces are scheduled to withdraw from Iraq by end of the year, this cooperation may effectively come to an end unless new bases are found for the Predators.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-2...edator-drone-on-turkish-soil.html
September 12, 2011 Monday
Turkey intends to be a major power again.
TURKEY was put back in their box decades ago by the UN,
helped by Greece coming to the rescue of the Cypriots who did not want Ottoman overlords again.
And notice Greece has suddenly become insolvent, so Turkey has used this moment to gain an advantage.
NATO warned Turkey several months ago about its expansionism actions ... this move may get them kicked outta NATO
Turkey also wants to mediate the Israeli-pestilinan talks LOL
Remember, Turkey refused USA troops to use the base in Turkey in the war with Iraq.
The US helped the Kurds and the Kurds helped the USA which ticked off turks.
No US drones for Turkey until Erdogan lifts his armed threat on Israel
September 13, 2011 Obama turned down a Turkish request for drones at Turkish bases until Ankara stops threatening Israel with armed attack.
Since when do we believe Barak Obama? Since never.
Turkey is a dishonorable, untrustworthy NATO member, and has no rightful place there.
3 Turkish frigates are bound for the eastern Mediteranean to challenge and disarm Israeli warships.
Turkey started war against Israel in May 2010.
17 pages here - http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about657.html
NATO warned Turkey PM Erdogan (2nd warning in a year) that a military clash by a NATO member with the Israeli Navy would have grave consequences for Turkey's future military ties with the US and the alliance.
Turkey purchased drones from Israel in 2010 then expelled the Israeli technicians operating them.
If Israel is smart (she usually is), she would have disabled them remotely.
Edited by me as usual from source
http://debka.com/article/21297
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