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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:27 am    Post subject: Israeli-British Relations Sour Over Hamas Charges Reply with quote

Israeli-British Relations Sour Over Hamas Assassination Charges

* I am not sure if this was carried out by Mossad or Hamas infighting, who blame it on mossad.
In any case, this Hamas devil had innocent blood on his hands and needed killing
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The recent assassination of a top Homas official carried out in Dubai has led to suspicions that Israel's spy agency,
The MOSSAD, was behind the killing operation using an 11 member team, some of whom carried British passports.

The revelation that some of the assassins in the team were using British passports has prompted the British government
to consider severing its intelligence-sharing agreement with Israel. British lawmakers are reported to be furious after learning details involving British passport usage.

Israel has never denied involvement with the assassination has remained silent on the assassination of Hamas military commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh that was carried out earlier this year in a posh hotel in Dubai.

Although Israel had previsouly promised it would never use British passports as part of its Mossad spying activities, the British government summoned Israel's ambassador to the British Foreign Office for an accounting. He is expected to give an accounting of Israel's activities and involvement in the incident.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/w...er-Dubai-Hamas-assassination.html

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: Israeli drone fleet can reach Iran Reply with quote

TURKEY in CRISIS, military coup attempt
Check this link too.  Turkey figures in mideast war - and bible prophecy

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Israel has NEW drones, ships, and subs [/size][/b]

[b]Israeli drone fleet can reach Iran

Israel unveils new fleet of huge pilotless planes that can remain in the air for a full day and fly as far as the Persian Gulf,
putting Iran within range.
The Heron drones have a wingspan of 86 feet, the size of Boeing 737 passenger jets.
The planes can fly at least 20 consecutive hours
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3852476,00.html

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:39 am    Post subject: Doomsday War Scheme Advances Reply with quote

Doomsday War Scheme Advances

February 21, 2010 (LPAC)—Sources close to the Israeli government have warned Executive Intelligence Review that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's inner cabinet is close to making a decision to launch a preventive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. Such a decision, that would be a further step closer to a devastating regional confrontation, could come as early as Sunday, when the Israeli cabinet convenes.

According to the source, a fierce debate is raging within the Israeli military, over whether Israel has the capacity to successfully strike Iran's nuclear facilities at Natanz or elsewhere.

Recently former Israeli Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gen. Dan Halutz told Israeli media that the IDF does not have the ability to seriously damage the Iranian program.
But, according to an Israeli source close to the inner cabinet, several options are being reviewed for just such an attack.

According to the source, in recent visits to Russia, both Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman pressed Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin for permission to stage attacks against Iranian targets from sites inside Russia.
Putin reportedly strongly shut the door on that option; however, similar approaches have been made to the government of Kazakhstan, according to the Israeli source.
The source added that the preferred option, being promoted by factions in the IDF, is to launch attacks from Israeli submarines, equipped with Cruise missiles. The source noted that the accuracy of the Cruise missiles, launched from Israeli submarines is unreliable, and most of the Iranian sites on the Israeli target list are in urban areas.

Obama has delivered a series of strongly worded messages, warning Israel against any unilateral attacks on Iran. U.S. military leaders, as well as Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, JCS Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen, National Security Advisor Gen. Jim Jones, and Vice President Joe Biden, all recognize that a military strike against Iran is the worst-case, last option, and that we are not even close to the point of having to make that decision.

It is widely believed, including among Israeli planners, that Iran has a retaliatory asymmetric capability that would involve crippling the entire Persian Gulf oil flow, blowing out the entire world economy, if attacked.

Lyndon LaRouche warned that circles in London, including former Prime Minister Tony Blair, are the real potential architects of this "doomsday" scheme. It is those in London, who are desperate over the collapse of the entire British System, who may be contemplating an Israeli breakaway ally attack on Iran, that would bring on a planetary dark age.

Just recall Blair's testimony before the Chilcot Commission, in which he taunted the commissioners with the need to take military action against Iran today, just as he lied the U.S. and Britain into the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

These people would have to be totally desperate, to be contemplating such a doomsday act, and I am afraid that they are, LaRouche warned.

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/13618

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious - does the Gog/Magog war happen at the end of the tribulation when Jesus comes back, or before the trib?

I hear all over the map - David Bayes over at cuttingedge.org thinks it'll happen BOTH times.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cuttingedge is good - lots of good info there

HOWEVER

we have to allow GOD to be GOD - cuz He will be anyway.    Cool

There is a huge war both before and after the return of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Whether you want to call it ARMAGEDDON - which is the Valley of Megiddo -
or call it the Gog-Magog war .. doesnt make any diffrence.

We cant pinpint prophecy.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Syria wants Iran to guarantee to fight Israel Reply with quote

Syria wants Iran to guarantee to fight Israel

DEBKA IS BACK!!!!

Feb 23

 This is funny!  

IRAN President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warns his allies that Israel is
poised to attack them, but they are not so inclined to act.

Ajad drops in on SYRIA President Assad and promised Iran would come to Syria and Hizballah’s aid,
should they come under Israeli attack, but left them with the impression that
Tehran placed the onus of bringing about Israel's downfall on the shoulders of Syria and Hizballah. Iran would not
necessarily fight alongside them.  None will go to war against Israel without clear guarantees that Iran will fight alongside them.

http://www.debka.com/article/8609

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:12 am    Post subject: IRAN WAR PLAN Reply with quote

IRAN WAR PLAN

Calling All Terrorists!


February 25, 2010

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has summoned all the terrorist groups Tehran sponsors - Islamist and radical Palestinian - for a broad gathering Saturday, Feb. 27, to finalize their roles in military operations against Israel in the event of a Middle East conflagration. This is reported by debkafile's Iranian and intelligence sources.

It will be the sequel to the preliminary discussions Ahmadinejad held with Syrian president Bashar Assad and heads of the Lebanese Hizballah and Palestinian Hamas Thursday, Feb. 25, during a brief visit to Damascus.

The guests of honor at the Tehran parley will be Hamas leader politburo chief Khaled Meshaal and Hizballah deputy leader Naim Kassem.

The Lebanese Shiite group's secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah will not be there because he never leaves his Beirut bunker
for fear Israeli assassins will catch up with him, especially since the high-profile Hamas official
Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was killed mysteriously in Dubai last month.

And Nasrallah is not alone; some of his fellow terror chiefs hesitate to show their faces outside their strongholds
even in friendly Tehran since the Dubai police disclosed that three of the suspects in the Mabhouh killing,
carriers of Australian passports, departed Dubai for Iran. They were said to have travelled by sea ferry to Bandar Abbas,
central headquarters of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, before flying out of Tehran international airport to unknown Far East destinations.

The Arab terrorist chiefs infer that even the Iranian capital and Revolutionary Guards headquarters are no longer secure against penetration by the Hamas commander's assassins.

The Iranians have therefore decided that their official statement on the conference, due to end Monday, March 1,
will name only a few of the participants; the presence of many other key figures will be kept secret

According to debkafile’s Iranian sources, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, assisted by a large team of aides, will lead the proceedings and steer them toward conclusions and decisions in line with Iran’s regional goals. The conference, called to pull together Iran and its allies' preparations for war with Israel, will be presented officially as an effort to reconcile the feuding Palestinian factions.

Few will find this believable, especially when Hamas attends the conference on its own,
except for several radical Palestinian splinter groups, and representatives of the rival Fatah and Palestinian Authority were not invited.

Presidential bureau personnel have performed most of the staff work on planning and the roles assigned the various organizations in any conflict with Israeli and/or Israeli forces. Senior members of the Revolutionary Guards and other sections of Iran's armed forces will be recruited to chair discussion panels and subcommittees aided by specialists in guerrilla and terror warfare.

http://www.debka.com/article/8611

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: WAR council in Damascus Reply with quote

WAR council in Damascus

March 01. 2010

The three-party meeting that took place in Damascus on Friday gathering the Syrian president Bashar al Assad, the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Hizbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah was a war council to devise counterattack plans and assign tasks in the event of an Israeli offensive on one or all parties, wrote Abdelbari Atwan, the editor-in-chief of the pan-Arab newspaper Al Quds al Arabi.

“The timing of the meeting, the way it was undertaken and the ensuing press conference that was held at its conclusion, all point to a strategic coalition being reinforced. This is the build-up of a new front that will spearhead the confrontation with the US-Israeli alliance and whichever Arab countries that may, expressly or implicitly, be affiliated with it.”

The Iranian president said he expects war to break out somewhere between spring and summer of this year. Meanwhile, the Hizbollah chief vowed to strike the Israeli capital, its airports and power stations if Israel dared to attack Beirut’s critical infrastructure.

“Indeed, we are being exposed to a new discourse here, an unprecedented sense of self-confidence and an unheard-of preparedness for retaliation.”

For its part, the Syrian leadership appears to have made up its mind to close off the US administration’s “trite and cheap” flirtation with Damascus and opted for bolstering its tactical partnership with Tehran.


http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pb...=/20100301/OPINION/702289930/1006

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Mideast war in very near future? Reply with quote



The Golan belonged to Syria in 1973 - but Syria attacked Israel on Yom Kippur, and Israel took it as the spoils of war.  
Israel NEEDS that high point for self protection.

Mideast war in very near future?

Aaron Klein in Jerusalem, ISRAEL

March  3,  2010

Dramatic escalation in cooperation between Israel's foes.

Its possible either side may misinterpret moves and launch, starting world war 3 by accident.

A mideast war seems to be brewing continually, for years.  WE KNOW one day it will break out, and there is currently much war rhetoric.

Egypt is concerned Israel could be in a conflict in the very near future with Syria and/or Hellzballah in Lebanon.
Both Syria and Hellzballah have been preparing to storm the Israeli border.

Syria has been contemplating launching attacks against Jewish communities on Israel's Golan Heights, which Syria wants.

Syria has recently given advanced weaponry to Hezballah in Lebanon.

Recent weeks have seen a war of words between Israel and Syria, as well as a dramatic escalation of public cooperation between Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas.

Israel warned Syria that any war against Israel would topple the Assad regime.

Syria has long demanded the Golan Heights as part of any deal with Israel.
The Golan looks down on Israeli population centers and twice was used by Damascus to launch ground invasions into the Jewish state.

Syria hosted a summit (WAR COUNCIL) in February 2010 with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah and Khaled Meshal, head of the Hamas.
 All participants expressed solidarity with each other and vowed the destruction of Israel.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126703

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject: Dont Be Distracted, Jerry Golden Reply with quote

Dont Be Distracted

Jerry Golden reports from Jerusalem
March 3, 2010

There are so many things happening in and around Israel and the world, that we often zero in on one of them and it may, or may not be, the most important thing for us to be concentrating upon. There are over a hundred ethnic and national wars raging on the planet at any one time. If you happen to be involved in any one of them, the most important event in your daily life will be trying to stay alive. It's called survival and self preservation and is one of our strongest motivations.

Here in Israel we have the Syrians, Iranians, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the whole Arab world working constantly toward our demise. They are continually arming with the most advanced weapons they can build or buy from the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans. Then we must not forget the many American F-15's and F-16's along with a host of other weapons sold to the Arab world by the USA - all with only one purpose in mind - to eventually attack and destroy Israel. So if we here in Israel seem to be single-minded in our desire to stay alive and keep our God given rights intact please forgive us for that.

With all of Europe being overwhelmed by Muslims and the imploding global economy, things are looking really bad. With the possibility of Greece defaulting - causing a domino effect throughout all of Europe -the Islamists will find it much easier to take over and bring about their Sharia Law. Of course they must first be getting rid of the Jews and the Christians (people of the Book). For the past few years I've been warning that this was going to happen, and that on the horizon is another Holocaust and the Jews need to get out of there like NOW - while they can simply get on a plane and fly to Israel.

The average American has no clue of how far Islam has penetrated into European public schools, neighbourhoods and cities. The Saudis have infiltrated many school textbooks with their distorted views on American and world history. The same dumbing down of the American youth has been underway for generations. American Prisons and Universities have been the breeding ground for Islam and anti-Christian indoctrination for a long time now. All the while the Church has been immersed in the apostate "Bless me Club" mentality, surrendering their youth and the entire country to the Devil. The finishing touches of the destruction of the US Constitution has been accomplished with the election of Hussein Obama to the presidency.

Many are waking up in the US and around the world. To wake up is one thing and to do something about it is another. The Tea Party movement in the US shows that maybe the majority has woken up and wants to do something about it, but the big question is - is it all too late?

While all the above is certainly worthy of your attention, there is something else coming right at you that you need to be looking at. There is already a food shortage in the world, and this coming summer it is going to get worse. Already the prices in your supermarkets are much higher than a year ago and going to go much higher, and with the GM food production what you can buy may not be all that healthy for your family to eat. You could store some food in preparation for the coming crisis [and you should], but it will not be enough to keep you and your family alive and healthy. If you have room for a garden you should be planting it with organic seeds and not with the hybrid variety. The reason is that with the organic seeds you can take the seeds from the fruit and produce more plants. Meaning you can buy a package of organic seeds and feed your family and many others forever.

On our site we show you how to make your own garden if you don't have the ground to plant in. In my opinion the best thing you can do, if possible, is to buy the units from www.earthbox.com . This was my first choice, but they wouldn't ship to Israel, The ones I made and displayed on the website work fine if you are able to be there to tend to them, and give them water when needed. Because Connie and have to travel so regularly it didn't work out for us. But thank God some Ministry supporters bought the earth boxes and sent them to us with the automatic watering system. It is also interesting to note that they say that this earthbox system uses about one tenth the amount of water a regular garden does. By the way, I have no connection with this company and I am not their salesperson! I just know it is a really great way for you to survive the coming food shortage and help others. There are several articles I've written on the site www.thegoldenreport.com that will help you when times get hard.

GOD will bless those who bless Israel
and curse those who curse Israel
.  Genesis 12:3

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel and all the IDF soldiers. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it.
Shalom, Jerry Golden

http://www.thegoldenreport.com/as...ager/anmviewer.asp?a=1338&z=1

Grow your own veggies at home
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/as...ager/anmviewer.asp?a=1224&z=3


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Iran developing massive launch site Reply with quote

Iran developing massive launch site

Iran is building a new rocket launch site with North Korean assistance, Israel Radio quoted IHS Jane’s as reporting overnight Friday.

The new launcher, constructed near an existing rocket base in the Semnan province east of Teheran,
is visible in satellite imagery, according to the report.

The defense intelligence group said the appearance of the launcher suggests assistance from North Korea,
and that it may be intended to launch the Simorgh, a long-range Iranian-made missile unveiled in early February
and officially intended to be used as a space-launch vehicle (SLV). SLV’s can be converted to be used as long-range ballistic missiles for military purposes.

Both the missile and the launch pad, which according to Jane’s is large enough to accommodate it, point to cooperation from Pyongyang.

Tal Inbar, head of the Space Research Center at the Fisher Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies,
said shortly after the unveiling of the Simorgh that the rocket is a worrisome development since the
missile could one day be adapted into an ICBM, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

After analyzing images of the missile, Inbar said that it appeared to currently be powered by liquid fuel,
but could one day be configured to work with a solid fuel propellant, a technology that the Iranians have
already begun using in their Sajil ballistic missile, which has a range of around 2,500 km.

"This is a major technological breakthrough and could mean that the Iranians are on their way to obtaining an ICBM," he said.

Israel and other Western countries suspect that Iran is trying to build nuclear weapons. Iran insists its nuclear program is peaceful.

In August 2009, President Shimon Peres told his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev during a visit to Moscow “The fact that Iran is investing billions of dollars in the development of long-range missiles, in parallel to its nuclear project, is clear indication of its intent.”

The president said there would be no point for any country to develop missiles capable of reaching targets so far and then loading them with conventional warheads.

Evoking Holocaust imagery during the meeting with Medvedev, Peres likened an Iranian nuclear bomb to a “flying death camp.”

http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=170329

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: US ponders denying Israel arms needed for conflict with Iran Reply with quote

US ponders denying Israel arms needed for conflict with Iran  

March 14, 2010

Prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu convened his inner cabinet Saturday night, March 12, to discuss the spiraling crisis with Washington and his first response.
debkafile's military and Washington sources report: The Obama administration is considering withholding from Israel military items urgently needed in case of a flare-up of hostilities with Iran. This would further ratchet up the mounting row over Israel's decision to build another 1,600 homes in E. Jerusalem. The requests were filed by defense minister Ehud Barak as recently as Feb. 26, when he visited Washington and met defense secretary Robert Gates and secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
In an exceptionally harsh phone call to Netanyahu Friday, March, Clinton herself hinted at this possibility while administering a dressing-down on the East Jerusalem housing decision and its announcement during Vice president Joe Biden's visit.
Reporting on that phone call, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley disclosed: "The secretary said she could not understand how this happened, particularly in light of the United States' strong commitment to Israel's security."
Washington correspondents interpreted this as a threat to withhold items vital for Israel's security unless the prime minister reversed that decision (which Palestinians now demand as the precondition for resuming peace talks).

Our military sources report that the Barak arms list is tailored to a potential four-front offensive against Israel launched by Iran and its allies. It includes systems needed by the Israeli Air Force, certain types of missiles and advanced electronic equipment. During his last visit, the defense minster complained the list had been pending in Washington for more than three months and the sands for a possible conflict were running out fast. He stressed that it was essential for these items to reach Israel before a flare-up occurred. The urgency was such that he suggested that if they could not be supplied to Israel at short notice, they should at least be held ready meanwhile in the emergency stores of the US bases in Israel's Negev.

Gates promised Barak to study the list and let him have his answer in the coming days, but none has so far been received.
Some circles in the United States and many in Israel say the Obama administration is blowing the crisis up with deliberate intent.  American-Jewish criticism was led Saturday night by the Anti-Defamation League's Abraham Foxman, who issued this statement: "We are shocked and stunned at the Administration’s tone and public dressing down of Israel on the issue of future building in Jerusalem
Defense sources in Washington reported Saturday the view that the Obama administration, which has never cultivated warm relations with the Netanyahu government, has seized on the Jerusalem housing spat as a device for restraining Israel from attacking Iran's nuclear sites, a step which the White House strenuously opposes.

http://www.debka.com/article/8648

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:34 am    Post subject: ATTACK on IRAN in DAYS? Reply with quote

IRAN ATTACK in DAYS


March 19 UPDATE Email from Israel to my questions.
I asked -
I hear rumors of an attack on Iran "in days"  but a trusted friend in the know said that is false.

Email from Israel - Through some reliable sources here in Israel, the suggestion is prepare and store food and water
because  preparations for a attack on Iran nuclear sites will come before or by summer.

I had heard a week ago the 'GO!' signal to attack Iran had been given.

Is the healthcare commotion just a distraction ??


March 16, 2010

The Herald of Scotland may have credible proof that a US-led attack on Iran approaches and
could be just  days away.  They have proof of an arms shipment to Diego Garcia, which consists of of 195 smart, guided,
Blu-110 bombs and 192 massive 2000lb Blu-117 bombs put in place for an assault on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran. US bombers are ready today to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3863920,00.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-preparing-total-destruction-iran

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: ATTACK on IRAN in DAYS? Reply with quote

Well, Dennis Kucinich somehow decided to throw his hat into the ring - this man, supposedly,
has spent his entire political life taking a stand against the bankers and NWO, and
2 of his sublings have died mysteriously.

But OTOH, he's been the main engineer behind this Deparment of Peace (hasn't been implemented yet), which has ties to the UN/Maitreya.

Again - who knows? This is a very good point here.


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