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http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/la...-jesus-beer-bible-study-meet-bar/

Laodicean Pastor Creates ‘Jesus + Beer’ Bible Study And They Meet In A Bar

"It's a thing," said Dault. He offered as proof a podcast called Homebrewed Christianity, recorded by "guys that brew their own beer and like to smoke cigars."

4/28/16

“It’s a thing,” said Dault. He offered as proof a podcast called Homebrewed Christianity, recorded by “guys that brew their own beer and like to smoke cigars.”

“Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.” Proverbs 20:1 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: All my life, both lost and saved, I have battled alcohol. Having been raised in a hard-drinking, German Irish family and having my first drink at age 11, there are some things so deeply ingrained that only death or the Rapture will remove them. But drinking is not a good thing, it never leads to good things, and it certainly has no place in the church or in the Body of Christ. Make no mistake, the Bible at no time condones habitual drinking because ultimately it will lead to drunkenness, which is a sin. If you’re a Christian who struggles with alcohol, let me encourage you to keep fighting and never quit. The Bible, speaking in any dispensation, calls us to soberness and holy living as much as it is within us to do so. Fight the good fight.

The big screen at Bernie’s Tap Room in Waukesha flickers with a baseball game between Texas Christian University and Dallas Baptist. The players are nearly life-size.

But the action on-screen is lost to the 15 people seated at two long tables in front of the game. They are deep in conversation about Jesus, church and life, stopping occasionally for a sip from the pint glass at hand.

Jesus + Beer is in session.

In and near Milwaukee, some people are getting a little faith with their froth. Assemblages like Jesus + Beer are part of a national trend of groups combining Bible study with elbow-bending. Sometimes, it’s just easier to talk religion over a beer, one pastor said. It’s also an idea that goes back to Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformation.

Brandon Brown, pastor at Collective MKE church, said he started Jesus + Beer because “people have left traditional church structures but still want to talk about Jesus.”

And he liked the selection of brews at Bernie’s, 351 W. Main St.

“That’s the trajectory of my life,” said Brown, whose Bay View version of the monthly Jesus + Beer sessions meets May 17 at Tonic Tavern, 2335 S. Kinnickinnic Ave. “Beer’s actually a late addition. Jesus’ love was there from the beginning.”

“And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;” Ephesians 5:18 (KJV)

J. Patrick Hornbeck, chair of the theology department at Fordham University in New York, says pubs represent a space of freedom that churches don’t always offer.

“It gives people permission to say a little more,” said Hornbeck, who says pubs offer something of a theological lubricant. “It’s something more of an equalizing force.”

Drinking beer and talking religion played a role in the Protestant Reformation, said Steve Jerbi, pastor at All Peoples Lutheran Church, 2600 N. 2nd St.

The Reformation was funded by brew that Martin Luther’s wife made, said Jerbi, who hosts a monthly meeting at the Riverwest Public House, 815 E. Locust St., where people of all faiths — and, as often as not, no faith — drink beer and talk religion.

“This week, we had a Reconstructionist Jew, a secular Muslim, a candidate for the ministry in the Baptist church, a lesbian and a middle-aged mom,” Jerbi said.

“Part of it is that I enjoy having a good conversation over a pint,” he said. Jerbi’s group has been meeting since the Public House opened five years ago.

David Dault, head of the nonprofit Chicago Sunday Evening Club, said the relationship between religion and alcohol can be chronicled through the Reformation. Look for which countries had beer as their main alcoholic beverage as opposed to wine: Catholics and wine vs. Protestants and beer.

As in Luther’s day, perhaps, “craft beer allows you to nerd out about the technicalities — about hops, about mash time. People that geek out about theology have a similar craft,” Dault said.

“There’s a certain technical pride in both creating something and playing with holy things, intoxicating substances. Things that are spiritual in both senses of the word.”

Dault points to a current “theology hipster subculture” in which groups of men with beards and pipes host hard-core discussions of orthodox theology.

“It’s a thing,” said Dault. He offered as proof a podcast called Homebrewed Christianity, recorded by “guys that brew their own beer and like to smoke cigars.”

Recent patrons at McBob’s, 4919 W. North Ave., might have seen Dan Quakkelaar and friends sharing a few beers. They were identifiable by Bibles crowding the table.

“It does sometimes get looks — a bunch of guys with their Bibles out, drinking beer,” Quakkelaar said.

Christopher Boucher doesn’t go to church. He doesn’t read the Bible. But the 26-year-old global product manager is a regular at Jesus + Beer.

“In traditional religious settings, you need to be formal. You need to know all the sayings that go with all the different parts of the service,” Boucher said. “You might feel obligated by the collection plate.”

The night’s discussion is never written in stone, and tangents are welcome, Boucher said. As a result, he said, “not only do people listen, they respond.”

Caroline Moan, 53, sits at the same table as Boucher. She followed Brandon Brown from his former church, Elmbrook, to his Jesus + Beer group.

“Some people think Christians are not supposed to drink,” Moan said. “Brandon is not afraid to go beyond what the establishment thinks in a very respectful way.

“He wants people to understand there is a role and that it’s OK to bring alcohol into a Christian’s life. I think that’s part of it,” she said. “The venue is purposeful.” source

“Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness!” Habakkuk 2:15 (KJV)
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http://www.vox.com/2016/5/6/11606706/russell-moore-evangelicals-trump
5/6/16
Southern Baptist leader: opposing Trump puts you “on the right side of Jesus”

A top Southern Baptist leader has a warning for white evangelical Christians: If you want to "be on the right side of Jesus," you need to stand up to Donald Trump.

Russell Moore heads the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, the public policy arm of the largest, typically quite conservative American Protestant denomination. In a scathing op-ed in the New York Times, Moore argues that for white evangelicals, the 2016 election is a moment of truth:

A white American Christian who disregards nativist language is in for a shock. The man on the throne in heaven is a dark-skinned, Aramaic-speaking "foreigner" who is probably not all that impressed by chants of "Make America great again."

Moore likens Trump's candidacy to the civil rights movement — a test that many white Baptist churches in the South failed when they defended white supremacy rather than standing by black churches. He argues that it's also in evangelicals' interest to stand up to Trump, because the future of evangelical Christianity lies with the people Trump picks on, including immigrants:

Majorities come and majorities go. And sometimes a silent majority is too silent for its own good… The question is whether evangelicals will be on the right side of Jesus. That will mean standing up for the church’s future leaders, and for our mission, especially when they are politically powerless.

Moore has a lot of minds to change. White evangelical Christians typically support Republican candidates by huge margins: In 2012, Romney captured 79 percent of their vote.

Trump, so far, isn't leading with anything like those numbers, but he still has a huge advantage. The latest Reuters poll found that white Christians who describe themselves as born-again prefer Trump over Clinton, 48 percent to 29 percent, and that Trump has an even wider advantage among white Baptists who go to church at least weekly.

And when it comes to standing up to Trump, churchgoing white evangelicals might be more likely to simply sit on their hands: The closest competitor to Trump wasn't Clinton, but not voting at all.
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Christian and Muslim Faith Leaders Unite to Help the Poor
5/9/16

Christian and Muslim leaders have met in Rome to discuss how they can work together to care for the poor.

According to ChristianToday.com., Christian and Muslim leaders attending the fourth Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue and the Royal Institute for Interfaith Studies sought to move past their differences and focus on helping the needy.

Both groups met with Pope Francis who stated, "Dialogue is going out of ourselves, with a word to hear the word of the other. The two words meet, two thoughts meet. It is the first step of a journey. Following this meeting of the word, hearts meet and begin a dialogue of friendship which ends with holding hands. Word, hearts, hands. It's simple. A little child knows how to do it."

At the end of the dialogue, the leaders acknowledged that the two religions “share beliefs and moral values,” and that “Our commonalities are much more than our particularities.”

They focused on the “humanising and civilizing” role both religions can play, particularly in standing in “solidarity” with the poor.

Help to the poor should be extended out of compassion and for the sake of obeying God, said the faith leaders. "It should never be used to proselytise.”

http://www.christianheadlines.com...aders-unite-to-help-the-poor.html
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Over 100 United Methodist Clergy Come out as LGBT
5/10/16

Over 100 United Methodist clergy members have come out as LGBT as part of an effort to convince the UMC to rethink their stance on gay marriage and the LGBT community.

The Huffington Post reports that the leaders of the United Methodist Church are scheduled to meet in Portland to consider around 1,000 legislative petitions in favor of embracing the LGBT community in the UMC.

More than 100 pastors, deacons, elders, and other leaders in the UMC released a letter right before this meeting, proclaiming their solidarity with the LGBT community and revealing their own affiliation with it.

“Our prayer, as the church begins its time of discernment, is that you will remember that there are nameless ones around the world, hungry for a word of hope and healing,” stated the letter. “LGBTQI people and their families exist in every church in every continent of this denomination. They are seeking to remain in faithful relationship with you, even when you refuse, because they know God’s tender mercies and great faithfulness.”

The UMC’s official stance regarding gay marriage is that UMC clergy are not authorized to perform gay marriage ceremonies, and members of the LGBT community cannot be ordained in the church.

Laura Young, an ordained UMC minister based in Westerville, Ohio, explained why the issue of LGBT rights in the church is important: “I signed the letter because I think that the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy that’s been operating in the church and in our society is damaging to a person’s soul.”

“The policies of the United Methodist Church ask LGBT people to live in secret and hide our light. God calls us to shine our light brightly, and it’s time to change these unjust policies,” she continued.

Matt Berryman, the executive director of Reconciling Ministries Network, said he hopes the leaders at the UMC meeting will choose to embrace the LGBT community:

“By refusing to obey the rules and moving forward with what we believe to be the right thing, it shows that the rules aren’t working, and it’s time for things to change,” he said. “It’s hard to expect how the Holy Spirit will move, but we do believe that anything can happen.”

http://www.christianheadlines.com...dist-clergy-come-out-as-lgbt.html
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Church as we know it is Over

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
John 10:27

The Church is at a major crossroads but most are not aware of the change that is in the Wind.
by Don Nori -  The true Church, the Bride, not a building, will move on with the gentle sound of His voice.  The Church He is building will not need an earthquake, a hurricane, or pixie dust floating in the air to get her attention.

His sheep hear His voice and follow Him because they follow His voice. This will be a big test of who we really are and whose kingdom we are really building.
If it is His Kingdom, we will leap at the sound of His voice and go where he leads us.
If we are building the counterfeit, we will not be so inclined to move very quickly. For there is much to lose and much to risk in responding to Him whilst building anything of our own.

The charismatics, the Pentecostals and the revivalists are all crowding at the river Jordan. The Holy Spirit is urging, calling, leading them to cross, but few have the faith to cross because few have the faith to risk what they have built. Maybe that is the problem…we have built it and it is OURS. We must protect what is ours at all costs, even at the cost of moving on with the Lord. It is always so easy to camp along the river rather than risk the dangers of fording the rapids, even when you have the voice of the Lord drawing you on..

So we invent, discover and imagine all kinds of histrionics to keep everyone satisfied where they are… on the wrong side of the river. We go around the things He has shown us again and again. We devise newer and more complicated ways of saying and doing the things we have know for years. Oh, we will occasionally look longingly across the river, wondering if there really is more over there, but the safety is always here. Few will admit that we have lost the faith, the daring and the adventure of our earlier days. Although denominationalism is anathema to us, we gather around the same things and build the same walls and defend our position with the same conviction and piety as all those who have gone before us.

But those who do not cross the river do not change the world. It is true, they do not rock the boat, but they do not see anything new, experience anything deeper than what has been “felt and telt” many, many times and for many, many years.

God does not talk in circles. He has a definite destination in mind and He fully intends to have a people that will be willing to be lead to the deepest reservoirs of His love and the very fullness of His Life.

Church as we know it is over. He is about to wrestle control of His own church from the carnal hands of insecure, angry, controlling and legalistic men and women, to build His own church, just as He promised He would.

Church as we know it is passing away. The thing we have called church is but a dim shadow of the life-giving, empowering wholeness of that for which Jesus died, rather, rose from the dead to lavish upon mere mortal men.

We have asked for wealth when He wanted to give us nations. We focused on our healing when He wanted to make us healers. We have searched for mercy and compassion when He had called us to carry those same treasures to a dying world. We are self-examining when He wants us to be pouring ourselves out so others can find Him.

There is no doubt. The self-centered, need-oriented, program-driven, growth-addicted destiny-snatching, dream-killing counterfeit is about to be replaced by His church; a company of loosely connected people held together only by the bonds of love. This people is the Christ-centered, Kingdom-declaring, light-shining heart throb of God Himself. His people hear His voice and respond with joy and anticipation, not fear and uncertainty. They are a devil-ignoring, life-giving, God-honoring group of worshipers whose greatest fulfillment in life is to be called to His service by the gentle sound of His voice. This church understands that the hands Jesus will stretch out to heal will be their hands. They know they are His hug, His smile, His encouraging word and the world’s only hope of glory.

The solution is clear.
You are the church that Jesus Himself, is building!
http://kingdompath.blogspot.com/2...as-we-know-it-is-over-by-don.html
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Church as we know it is Over

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
John 10:27

The Church is at a major crossroads but most are not aware of the change that is in the Wind.
by Don Nori -  The true Church, the Bride, not a building, will move on with the gentle sound of His voice.  The Church He is building will not need an earthquake, a hurricane, or pixie dust floating in the air to get her attention.

His sheep hear His voice and follow Him because they follow His voice. This will be a big test of who we really are and whose kingdom we are really building.
If it is His Kingdom, we will leap at the sound of His voice and go where he leads us.
If we are building the counterfeit, we will not be so inclined to move very quickly. For there is much to lose and much to risk in responding to Him whilst building anything of our own.

The charismatics, the Pentecostals and the revivalists are all crowding at the river Jordan. The Holy Spirit is urging, calling, leading them to cross, but few have the faith to cross because few have the faith to risk what they have built. Maybe that is the problem…we have built it and it is OURS. We must protect what is ours at all costs, even at the cost of moving on with the Lord. It is always so easy to camp along the river rather than risk the dangers of fording the rapids, even when you have the voice of the Lord drawing you on..

So we invent, discover and imagine all kinds of histrionics to keep everyone satisfied where they are… on the wrong side of the river. We go around the things He has shown us again and again. We devise newer and more complicated ways of saying and doing the things we have know for years. Oh, we will occasionally look longingly across the river, wondering if there really is more over there, but the safety is always here. Few will admit that we have lost the faith, the daring and the adventure of our earlier days. Although denominationalism is anathema to us, we gather around the same things and build the same walls and defend our position with the same conviction and piety as all those who have gone before us.

But those who do not cross the river do not change the world. It is true, they do not rock the boat, but they do not see anything new, experience anything deeper than what has been “felt and telt” many, many times and for many, many years.

God does not talk in circles. He has a definite destination in mind and He fully intends to have a people that will be willing to be lead to the deepest reservoirs of His love and the very fullness of His Life.

Church as we know it is over. He is about to wrestle control of His own church from the carnal hands of insecure, angry, controlling and legalistic men and women, to build His own church, just as He promised He would.

Church as we know it is passing away. The thing we have called church is but a dim shadow of the life-giving, empowering wholeness of that for which Jesus died, rather, rose from the dead to lavish upon mere mortal men.

We have asked for wealth when He wanted to give us nations. We focused on our healing when He wanted to make us healers. We have searched for mercy and compassion when He had called us to carry those same treasures to a dying world. We are self-examining when He wants us to be pouring ourselves out so others can find Him.

There is no doubt. The self-centered, need-oriented, program-driven, growth-addicted destiny-snatching, dream-killing counterfeit is about to be replaced by His church; a company of loosely connected people held together only by the bonds of love. This people is the Christ-centered, Kingdom-declaring, light-shining heart throb of God Himself. His people hear His voice and respond with joy and anticipation, not fear and uncertainty. They are a devil-ignoring, life-giving, God-honoring group of worshipers whose greatest fulfillment in life is to be called to His service by the gentle sound of His voice. This church understands that the hands Jesus will stretch out to heal will be their hands. They know they are His hug, His smile, His encouraging word and the world’s only hope of glory.

The solution is clear.
You are the church that Jesus Himself, is building!
http://kingdompath.blogspot.com/2...as-we-know-it-is-over-by-don.html
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Children's Pastor Arrested in Human Trafficking Sting
5/23/16

A church terminated it's children pastor after he was caught in a human trafficking sting.

Jason Kennedy of Grace Baptist Church was one of two pastors arrested in the operation that netted 32 men and women last week. The other, Zubin Parakh, was reportedly a volunteer creative pastor for Lifehouse Church outside Knoxville, Tennessee.

"I was devastated, I was totally shocked. It is something you can not anticipate, in fact I speak about it constantly," Grace Baptist Church Ron Stewart says. "I have nine other pastors and I speak to them constantly, 'We are held to a higher standard and what someone else may do and be accepted is not accepted and anything you do will be magnified and we understand much is given, much is required.' It goes with being a pastor."

Parakh reportedly expected to meet a 17-year-old girl and to pay $100 for a half-hour of sex. Court records report Kennedy negotiated a $100 fee for a half-hour of sex with a 15 and 18-year-old girl.

"We are saddened today as a result of information relating Zubin Parakh who was a volunteer worker at our church. Our church and its leaders were not aware of any alleged misconduct regarding Mr. Parakh. However, we are praying for all parties involved," LifeHouse posted in a statement. "We both ask for and hope our church family's privacy will be respected throughout this process."

Grace Baptist Church also asked for prayer as the congregation moves forward after Kennedy's arrest and subsequent firing:

We are deeply saddened by the recent events affecting our church family. The children's pastor of Grace Baptist Church has been terminated as a result of his arrest which is in violation of the statement of ethics that he signed and church standards of moral conduct.

The actions of the children's pastor for which he has been arrested were part of his life outside the church, and we have received no questions or concerns related to his conduct within the church or its ministries.

The children's pastor was hired two-and-a-half years ago. The church's background check turned up no issues that indicate any previous problem. In fact, the children's pastor in his application affirmed that he had no issues in his background of a criminal or other nature.

We want to reassure our church family that we are committed to the safety and security of our members, and especially our children. Our security system includes 78 security cameras, electronic check-in, background checks of employees and volunteers, and security officers during gatherings at the church.

We are praying for the children's pastor's family and will continue to provide the services of our ministry to them.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) says the entire incident happened within 1,000 feet of yet another church.  

"What so many people in our community don't quite understand is that human trafficking is a demand driven crime. And that demand comes from every single part of our society, including those parts that we'd all like to believe are not part of the problem," said Kate Trudell with the Community Coalition against Human Trafficking.

http://www.charismanews.com/us/57...rested-in-human-trafficking-sting
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http://www.theweek.com/speedreads...onflict-being-gay-following-jesus
Christian rock star comes out, sees 'absolutely no conflict' in being gay 'and following Jesus'
6/1/16

For 15 years, Trey Pearson has been the lead singer of Everyday Sunday, a popular Christian rock band that has sold about 250,000 records, toured the U.S. and the world, and scored the top Christian rock hit of 2007. On Tuesday, he announced that he is gay. "I have tried not to be gay for more than 20 years of my life," the 35-year-old told his fans in a letter. "I've tried my whole life to be straight. I married a girl, and I even have two beautiful little kids," he wrote, explaining that his wife is now a good friend, and "if I keep trying to push this down it will end up hurting her even more."

Coming out as gay may be career suicide for Pearson, notes Jonathan Merritt at Religion News Service. Several Christian artists have revealed themselves to be gay or lesbian in the past few years, he says, and "these musicians paid a hefty price. Since Christian music fans tend to be conservative and believe that homosexual acts are sinful, you won't hear these artists' music played in most churches or on Christian radio these days." Pearson hopes that his fans will stick with him, and that he can be a role model for other gay Christians, especially those, like him, raised in "a very conservative Christian home."

But Pearson says that regardless of his music career, he isn't losing his religion. His study of the Bible has led him to believe that the few verses that address homosexuality don't condemn today's loving, committed gay relationships, he told Merritt. "There is absolutely no conflict with accepting who I am and following Jesus," he said. "God wants me to be healthy, authentic, whole, integrated, and my truest self." You can read more about Pearson at RNS, or the 12-page cover story about him in (614) Magazine. —Peter Weber

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1 Corinthians 6:9  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


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