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Who is Insulting Whom, Madam Secretary?I agree with Gary Cooperberg's sentiments below except it would have been better to use Mexicans in Arizona as a comparison to Palestinians than to use "Indians." Indians were there first and the U.S. broke every agreement it every made with the Indians.
Mexicans may have been there earlier as well, but were conquered. Many of those invading Mexicans belong to groups saying "kill whitey" and the like. The globalist agenda is intentionally advanced by promoting violent (chamas/hamas) groups to create chaos from which the PTB want to make a New World Order.
A Voice from Hebron by Gary M. Cooperberg
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Who is Insulting Whom, Madam Secretary?
Whether or not you like it, Mrs. Clinton, Israel is the sovereign Jewish State. How would you feel if our foreign minister condemned you for building homes in Arizona because it may offend the sensitivities of Indians who hope to eventually build their own homes there? It is an absurdity.
Madam Secretary, you certainly have the right to express opinions which vary with ours, but you have no right to issue demands as to where we may or may not live in our own country, nor how we conduct our efforts to defend our citizens from murderers. You certainly have no business telling us to release murderers who we have already caught and imprisoned! And you have the gall to tell us that by deciding to build Jewish homes on a barren mountainside adjacent to an existing Jewish city in the Jewish State that we insult you?!
And when you follow up by telling us what good friends you are and how committed you are to our security, you also insult our intelligence.
Let me explain something to you, Mrs. Clinton. Your husband insulted the Jewish State every time he made Yasser Arafat a guest at the White House. It would not have been worse had President Roosevelt made Hitler a guest in his time. The United States of America is a sovereign nation.
You certainly have the right to align yourself with whomever you wish. But you would do well to remember that America is a great nation only because it has included the G-d of Creation as a full partner in its establishment. This partnership has been eroding more and more, and as a result your country is rapidly losing its position of leadership and greatness.
The Creator of the Universe adopted the Jewish People as His representative on this Earth. He made us a minority of minorities in order to tempt the great nations of every generation to challenge His authority. History has shown that in every generation great nations have taken up that challenge and sought to destroy this tiny people to prove that there is no G-d. All of those great nations have fallen into the dust heap of history and the tiny Jewish nation has not only survived, but has, at long last, begun to return to her ancient homeland, exactly as predicted in the Bible that you claim to accept as Divine Truth.
How dare you, or anyone else, including my Prime Minister, seek to overturn Divine Destiny? There is no Palestinian nation. There never was. The entire concept was cooked up to create an allegedly legitimate reason to destroy the Jewish State and turn it into another Arab one. Any Arab who calls himself a “Palestinian” is an enemy of the Jewish State. Any Jewish leader who accepts that terminology is a partner in the effort to destroy Israel, whether or not he realizes it.
I, for one, am not concerned with your threats. I am more concerned about how those threats truly endanger the future of the United States.
Whether or not you realize it, Madam Secretary, when you try to interfere with the Divine Process of Jewish return, you are opposing the Living G-d of Israel. No matter how powerful the United States may be, it is no match for our G-d. So I would strongly urge you, for the sake of the future of your nation, to reassess your partnership with the PLO and stick with your only ally in the Middle East. We are the only nation in the world that enjoys Divine Protection. No power on Earth can destroy us. The time is already beginning when the nations of the world are joining together in an effort to do just that. I sincerely hope that the USA doesn’t fall into that ancient trap and sew the seeds of her own self destruction.
Who is Insulting Whom, Madam Secretary?The real insult is to Israel
By Charles Krauthammer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 03/22/2010
Why did President Obama choose to turn a gaffe into a crisis in U.S.-Israeli relations?
A gaffe it was: an announcement by a bureaucrat in the Interior Ministry of a housing expansion in a Jewish neighborhood in north Jerusalem. The timing could not have been worse: Vice President Biden was visiting, Jerusalem is a touchy subject, and you don't bring up touchy subjects that might embarrass an honored guest.
But it was no more than a gaffe. It was certainly not a policy change, let alone a betrayal. The neighborhood is in Jerusalem, and the 2009 Netanyahu-Obama agreement was for a 10-month freeze on West Bank settlements excluding Jerusalem.
Nor was the offense intentional. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not know about this move - step four in a seven-step approval process for construction that, at best, will not even start for two to three years.
Nonetheless, the prime minister is responsible. He apologized to Biden for the embarrassment. When Biden left Israel on March 11, the apology appeared accepted and the issue resolved.
The next day, however, the administration went nuclear. After discussing with the president the language she would use, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Netanyahu to deliver a hostile and highly aggressive 45-minute message that the Biden incident had created an unprecedented crisis in U.S.-Israeli relations.
Clinton's spokesman then publicly announced that Israel was now required to show in word and in deed its seriousness about peace.
Israel? Israelis have been looking for peace - literally dying for peace - since 1947, when they accepted the U.N. partition of Palestine into a Jewish and Arab state. (The Arabs refused and declared war. They lost.)
Israel made peace offers in 1967, 1978, and in the 1993 Oslo peace accords, which Yasser Arafat tore up seven years later to launch a terror war that killed 1,000 Israelis.
Why, Clinton's own husband testifies to the courageous, visionary peace offer made in his presence by Ehud Barak (now Netanyahu's defense minister) at the 2000 Camp David talks. Arafat rejected it. In 2008, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered equally generous terms to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas. Refused again.
In these long and bloody 63 years, the Palestinians have not once accepted an Israeli offer of permanent peace, or ever countered with anything short of terms that would destroy Israel. They insist instead on a "peace process" - now in its 17th post-Oslo year and still offering no credible Palestinian pledge of ultimate coexistence with a Jewish state - the point of which is to extract preemptive Israeli concessions, such as a ban on construction in parts of Jerusalem conquered by Jordan in 1948, before negotiations for a real peace have even begun.
Under Obama, Netanyahu agreed to commit to acceptance of a Palestinian state; took down dozens of antiterrorist roadblocks and checkpoints to ease life for Palestinians; assisted West Bank development to the point where its GDP is growing at an astounding 7 percent a year; and agreed to the West Bank construction moratorium, a concession that Clinton herself called "unprecedented."
What reciprocal gesture, let alone concession, has Abbas made during the Obama presidency? Not one.
Indeed, long before the Biden incident, Abbas refused even to resume direct negotiations with Israel. That's why the Obama administration has to resort to "proximity talks" - a procedure that sets us back 35 years, to before Anwar Sadat's groundbreaking visit to Jerusalem.
And Clinton demands that Israel show it's serious about peace? Now that's an insult.
So why this astonishing one-sidedness? Because Obama likes appeasing enemies while beating up on allies - so Israel shouldn't take it personally (according to Robert Kagan)? Because Obama wants to bring down the current Israeli coalition government (according to Jeffrey Goldberg)?
Or is it because Obama fancies himself the historic redeemer whose irresistible charisma will heal the breach between Christianity and Islam or, if you will, between the post-imperial West and the Muslim world - and has little patience for this pesky Jewish state that brazenly insists on its right to exist, and even more brazenly on permitting Jews to live in its own ancient, historical, and present capital?
Who knows? Perhaps we should ask those Obama acolytes who assured the 63 percent of Americans who support Israel - at least 97 percent of those supporters, mind you, are non-Jews - about candidate Obama's abiding commitment to Israel.
Who is Insulting Whom, Madam Secretary?Emphasis mine.
A Voice from Hebron by Gary M. Cooperberg
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“Biden” my Time for Real Peace
It is always so heartwarming to hear American leaders telling us that they know better than we where our best interests lie. If we were talking about tourism or financial investments perhaps we could benefit from such advice. But when we are talking about our obligations to our Creator, not to mention dangers to our very existence, clearly no outsider has the right to tell us where our interests lie.
Israel is a very tiny country and located about as far as possible from the United States. Even if the USA is our very best “friend”, clearly that country has plenty of its own problems to solve rather than spend so much time and effort to bring us peace. Do they really love us so much as to put aside their own pressing needs simply to help us out? I think not.
We all know that as great as the USA may be, she is deeply in debt. Arab oil wealth has been deeply invested in American politics to the degree that the United States government feels the need to curry favor with the Moslem world. While she certainly doesn’t want to cause harm to Israel there is a conflict of interest here that is very hard, if not impossible, to bridge.
The American leadership knows that the Israeli government feels dependent upon the USA. It thus feels that it is in a position to make far reaching demands upon Israel in order to placate Arab interests. Any honest observer knows that the Moslem world cannot tolerate a non-Moslem sovereignty in what it considers Islamic territory. The so called “peace process” in the Arab mind is but a different tactic with which to destroy the Jewish State. As long as we participate in this process we are assisting the plan for our own self-destruction.
Mr. Biden, I am sorry if this offends you, but the two state solution is not in the interest of the Jewish State. On the contrary. It is but step one toward the effort to destroy the Jewish State. Why is it that everyone seems to accept the outrageous axiom that, should there be two states, one state would be an Arab state, without any Jews, and the other state would comprise both Jews and Arabs? Thus we will have a tinier Israel with the same problems as before, and a new enemy state within our present borders! This isn’t a “peace” process. It is a suicide process, and I am outraged that my own leaders are participants!
I am not angry with you, Mr. Vice President. Clearly you are serving, what you feel to be, the best interests of the United States, (even if you are mistaken). My anger is reserved for my own leadership which hasn’t got the courage to tell you that Israel is and always will be the Jewish State. We are simply fulfilling the Commands of our G-d. No power in the world has the right to interfere with this Divine Process.
The fact is that every effort to prohibit Jews from living in all parts of our ancient homeland is a genuine obstacle to peace. It will only be when all of the Jewish people come home to Israel, live and build in all parts of our country, and govern ourselves by the Law of our Torah that true peace will come to all of the nations of the world. So those who seek to make peace by trying to steal Jewish land and give it to our enemies are themselves true enemies of real peace.
Please tell President Obama that real peace will come, with or without your help. But should you continue to try to interfere with the Divine Process of Biblical Redemption you will only endanger the future of your own country.
Who is Insulting Whom, Madam Secretary?The real Hussein Obama
Posted: Friday, March 26, 2010
by jerry golden
When a Head of State visits the US he or she is greeted with honour, sometimes even military honours. For example when one of the Arab Head's of State comes to the White House they are even met at the Airport by high ranking dignitaries, often even the President Himself. If it happens to be the King of Saudi Arabia, Obama would even bow to him, showing his submission to Islam. If it was a third-world leader from Africa he would get the full military reception. And when they came to the White House they would come through the front door and be brought to the Oval Office. All of this of course would receive full press coverage.
BUT, when the Jewish Leader of the best and only real friend America has in the Middle East "Israel" comes to visit the White House he is brought in under the cover of night. Not to the front door, he is brought to a side door! There he is met by an unknown person and quickly ushered into a side room where he waits for the grand appearance of the President, who takes his time, and then arrives with arrogance and distain, showing a vindictive attitude towards the Jewish Leader of Israel, Netanyahu.
It would seem to me that the cover has been completely blown off any pretence of Obama's position on Israel, and the Arab's who call themselves "Palestinians". He no longer negotiates with Israel these days - now he Demands that Israel submit to the Islamic Arabs, and give up their land in order to appease them . In short, what he is demanding is the final and total destruction of the Jewish State of Israel.
Obama knows the truth. That who, and what he is, will catch up with him. His intent is to destroy the United States from within, and his hatred for the USA and even its flag is becoming well known. But God has something to say to Mr. Obama;
Zech.12: The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.
 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
Obama has given Netanyahu until Saturday to give his answer on his demands. That causes me to wonder; "how long God will give Mr. Obama"?
Unlike times past, when the Israeli people wanted their government to give in to the wishes of the United States [at least to some degree], this time Netanyahu has the backing of 90%, -if not more- of the Israeli public, even including the left wing Parties. The latest Israeli polls show only 9% have a favourable opinion of Obama - and believe he favours the "Palestinians" and the Islamic Arab World. In fact, I personally don't know one Israeli who doesn't believe that Obama is a Moslem!
As Believers in Yeshua (Jesus the Holy One of Israel) you have God's Word about the days we now find ourselves in. There should be no doubt in your mind of the need to prepare the best you possibly can for your family and loved ones. This coming year will reveal many things, making it all very clear, and no longer necessary for these kinds of warnings. But for now you are forewarned. Not by this Messenger - but by God's Word.
It must be very clear to everyone by now that God has the attention of the entire world focussed on this small piece of real estate "Israel" just as it is has been foretold in scripture. For it is here in this land God gave you His Word, and it is here in this land "Israel" He will bring all things together, and His prophetic Word shall come to pass.
The world is beginning to shake, and it will be brought into total chaos in a very short time period. Millions of souls will be weighed in the balance as they make their decision who they will follow, and there are only two choices.
Many who say they love Israel will turn against her and be deceived by the evil one of this world. But those who know and love the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, will bless Israel and the Jewish people. God will make the final Aliyah of His Jewish people
Isa. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel and all the IDF soldiers. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it.
Jerry Golden is excellent. I consider him a prophet of GOD.
Who is Insulting Whom, Madam Secretary?House Majority to Clinton: Calm Down on Israel
by Hillel Fendel
Published: 03/28/10, 2:11 PM / Last Update: 03/28/10, 2:35 PM
(IsraelNN.com) More than 75 percent of Congressmen in the U.S.House of Representatives have signed a letter to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressing support for Israel and demanding an end to the highly-publicized state of tensions with Israel.
Signed by 327 Representatives, out of 435, the letter calls on Clinton and the Obama Administration to settle its disputes with Israel in a non-public and friendly fashion. The current tensions “will not advance the interests the U.S. and Israel share,” the letter states, as “above all, we must remain focused on the threat posed by the Iranian nuclear weapons program to Middle East peace and stability."
The letter was initiated last week by leaders of both parties, including the top Representatives of each one: Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and Eric Cantor (R-Va.).
Additional excerpts from the letter:
“We are writing to reaffirm our commitment to the unbreakable bond that exists between our country and the State of Israel, and to express to you our deep concern over recent tension. In every important relationship, there will be occasional misunderstandings and conflicts… Differences are best resolved quietly, in trust and confidence, as befits longstanding strategic allies…
"We are reassured that Prime Minister Netanyahu's commitment to put in place new procedures will ensure that such surprises [a municipal Jerusalem announcement on approval of another step towards the construction of 1,600 apartments in a post-1967 Jerusalem neighborhood during U.S. Vice President Biden's recent visit to Israel], however unintended, will not recur.”
"The United States and Israel are close allies whose people[s] share a deep and abiding friendship based on a shared commitment to core values including democracy, human rights and freedom of the press and religion. Our two countries are partners in the fight against terrorism, and share an important strategic relationship…
Strong Israel is an Asset to U.S.
"A strong Israel is an asset to the national security of the United States and brings stability to the Middle East. We are concerned that the highly publicized tensions in the relationship will not advance the interests the U.S. and Israel share. Above all, we must remain focused on the threat posed by the Iranian nuclear weapons program to Middle East peace and stability.”
Netanyahu returned on Thursday from Washington after a private meeting with President Obama. The lack of a press conference and photo-ops is widely viewed as an Obama snub of Netanyahu, though the excuse has been offered that the meeting was barely planned in advance.
Obama's One-Sided Demands on Israel
Obama demands that Netanyahu stop building in eastern Jerusalem and make a series of other gestures to the Palestinian Authority, while not demanding anything from the other side. Netanyahu has not agreed to do so, but met with his mini-cabinet of seven ministers on Friday to try to formulate a response. The ministers plan to meet again before the Passover holiday, which begins Monday night.
Who is Insulting Whom, Madam Secretary?US May Abstain if UNSC Votes on Eastern Jerusalem Construction
Nisan 13, 5770, 28 March 10 10:21
by Gil Ronen
(Israelnationalnews.com) The US is considering abstaining if the United Nations Security Council votes on a resolution against Israeli construction in eastern Jerusalem, the BBC reported Sunday.
For decades, Israel has depended on the US to veto UNSC resolutions aimed against it. A change in this US policy could be very perilous for Israel.
Anti-Israeli resolutions pass regularly in the UN General Assembly, but their meaning is largely declarative. The UNSC, however, has the power to back its resolutions with action.
|[Ed. G-d has the power to back up His commands as well.]
Jg 5:23 Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the LORD, curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof; because they came not to the help of the LORD, to the help of the LORD against the mighty.
Meroz. This city of Meroz seems to have been, at this time, a place of considerable importance, since something great was expected from it; but probably, after the angel of the Lord had pronounced this curse, it dwindled and like the fig-tree which Christ cursed, withered away; so that we never read of it after this in Scripture. TSK.
The possibility of the US abstaining on a vote on eastern Jerusalem came up at talks in Paris last week between a senior US official and Qatar's Prime Minister and Foreign Minister, Sheikh Hamad Bin Jasim Al Thani. A diplomatic source told the BBC that the official said the US would "seriously consider abstaining" if the issue of Israeli construction for Jews was put to the vote.
Sheikh Hamad Al Thani was in Paris last week for an economic forum. He asked the US official if Washington would promise not to veto a UN Security Council resolution that criticized Israel's construction for Jews in eastern Jerusalem.
The US official replied that the current feeling in Washington was that the US would "seriously consider abstention". An Egyptian official reportedly confirmed the US position during a closed-doors meeting at the Arab League summit.