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Presbyterian church curses Israel

Presbyterian church curses Israel
June 2014
  Presbyterian Church USA voted to divest from 3 US companies,
Caterpillar, Motorola, and Hewlett-Packard.
They voted to re-examine support for a 2 state solution.  (Idea from hell.)
They claimed they are not divesting from Israel, but only these 3 companies.
Support for Palestinian state is supporting terrorists and cursing Israel.

July 9, 2012  By a narrow vote 333 against 331, the Presbyterian Church (USA) decides not to curse Israel.

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Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu assails Presbyterian vote
June 23, 2014 JERUSALEM
— Israel’s prime minister criticized the decision by the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) to divest from U.S. companies that operate in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, saying the vote was misguided and unfair.
In an address to an international gathering of Jewish journalists, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described Israel as a rare bright spot in a turbulent region. While stopping short of accusing the Presbyterians of anti-Semitism, he wondered why Israel had been singled out.

“When the Middle East is fragmented in this horrible war, this savage, savage war between militant Shiites and militant Sunnis … the only place where you have freedom, tolerance, protection of minorities, protection of gays, protection of Christians and all other faiths is Israel,” said Netanyahu.
(Also on POLITICO: Netanyahu warns against working with Iran on Iraq)
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) on Friday voted to sell church stock in Caterpillar, Hewlett-Packard and Motorola Solutions, three companies whose products Israel uses in the occupied West Bank.

The 1.8 million-member church became the most prominent religious group in the U.S. to endorse divestment in a sign of protest against Israeli policies toward the Palestinians. It rejected a similar proposal two years ago.
Netanyahu called on the group of nearly 300 international Jewish journalists to “defeat a lie … with truth, with facts, with courage.”
“Let’s arrange a bus tour for [Presbyterians] in the region. Let them go to maybe Syria, Lebanon, Iraq. And my only suggestion for them … it be in an armor-plated bus,” he added.
Presbyterians who advocated for divestment insisted their action was not part of a broader movement known as BDS — boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel — but the decision to divest is timely. U.S.-led peace talks with the Palestinians recently collapsed and Israeli military forces have stepped up operations in the West Bank since three unarmed Jewish teens were abducted on June 12.

I attended a Presbyterian church service 2 years ago - to say it's dead, Dead, DEAD is an UNDERSTATEMENT. Pretty much it was as if the entire service was running on autopilot and sleepwalking.

Presbyt's have several synods like Lutheran - each is separate.
I regularly attended a very good Presby church in Florida.
The PCUSA On Guns
BY Herschel Smith
12 hours, 12 minutes ago

Presbyterian Church (USA) on guns:

Among other things, the Assembly’s action calls for:

   formation of support, healing and advocacy groups for those who have experienced gun violence in their families;
   opposition to legislation that exempts gun manufacturers and marketers from legal liability and/or financial accountability for the medical and security costs of predictable gun misuse and availability to criminals, the unstable, and the self-destructive;
   opposition to “stand your ground” and other legislation that may entitle gun owners to shoot before taking alternative measures (such as relying on law enforcement and/or other de-escalation techniques) in perceived defense of persons or property;
   encouraging church sessions and PC(USA) entities that own property to declare their particular premises and gatherings to be gun-free zones;
   raising the age for handgun ownership to 21;
   supporting legislation to ban semiautomatic assault weapons, armor-piercing handgun ammunition and .50-caliber rifles; and
   advocacy in support of state and federal legislation to regulate ammunition.

I’m not part of the PCUSA, but having attended Reformed Theological Seminary, I know something about the history of Presbyterianism in the U.S.  The problem started with the Auburn Affirmation, and even before then from the theological liberalism that led directly to that abomination.

Notice that the denomination doesn’t just engage in tactical blundering and hot air.  To be sure, there’s plenty of that to go around.  Reliance on LEOs during period of peril to your life or the lives of your loved ones means that the fight is over by the time (8 – 15 minutes) a LEO arrives.

They go beyond their tactical incompetence and recommend bankruptcy of gun manufacturers when their weapons are misused (similar recommendations for Stanley, Kobalt, Craftsman and other manufacturers of hammers probably won’t be forthcoming when crimes are committed with hammers).  And if that’s not good enough, they recommend new laws that would end with confiscation and civil war when SWAT teams are sent to the doors of patriotic Americans who won’t allow their means of self defense to be confiscated.  So the PCUSA recommends what would inevitably become a bloody mess with cops laying dead in the streets and innocent citizens laying dead in their doorways.

In the mean time, they leave men and women undefended because of their turn to politics to address the theological problems of mankind.  We’ve discussed God’s views of the requirement to defend your loved ones.  The simplest case for killing those who would bring harm to your family lies in the decalogue.

   God has laid the expectations at the feet of heads of families that they protect, provide for and defend their families and protect and defend their countries.  Little ones cannot do so, and rely solely on those who bore them.  God no more loves the willing neglect of their safety than He loves child abuse.  He no more appreciates the willingness to ignore the sanctity of our own lives than He approves of the abuse of our own bodies and souls.  God hasn’t called us to save the society by sacrificing our children or ourselves to robbers, home invaders, rapists or murderers. Self defense – and defense of the little ones – goes well beyond a right.  It is a duty based on the idea that man is made in God’s image.  It is His expectation that we do the utmost to preserve and defend ourselves when in danger, for it is He who is sovereign and who gives life, and He doesn’t expect us to be dismissive or cavalier about its loss.

   So while you claim to be a lover of the children, you actually advocate abuse of children because you would disarm the very people with the sworn duty to protect, nurture and provide for them.

The PCUSA is directing its people to run their lives contrary to God’s law, while trying to implement warmed over, washed up hippie ideology as a solution to what ails mankind.  Thus goes perishing denominations.

Presbyterians Anti-Christ war on Israel
June 24, 2014  MEMO to PCUSA
Israel is a JEWISH State on land GOD gave the Jews -  bloodline of JACOB - FOREVER!
Hence Israel has - JEWrulsalem and JEWdea.  Learn it!  Live it!  Love it!

The Presbyterian Church continues its war on Israel.
The PCUSA remained resolute in sticking to their defiled theology that denies not only the existence of Israel, but the existence of the people of Israel.
Caterpillar is targeted because its bulldozers are used by the IDF.
Motorola and Hewlett-Packard are targets because they have large operations in Israel.

Let no one be fooled. The motion to erase Israel from the Presbyterian vocabulary is a motion to erase Israel, and boycotting Caterpillar is one way to achieve this anti-Christ goal. Forum Index -> CHAPEL
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