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Osama (Usama) bin Laden dead * MB, CIA




Osama bin Laden dead
May  2,  2011
Great campaign lie, except Osama's been dead for years.  This is another wag the dog story, to distract from the dodgy birth certificate.  
0bama is a liar .. and has been since the day a lab created him.
Obama bin Laden died years ago, perhaps at Tora Bora.
Never believe any news.  Never believe 0bama can succeed at anything.
Even debka, fox, Stratfor and newsmax are parroting the NWO lie.  Question is - why?  
My hunch - The NWO will blow a nuke in 'the west' - whether USA or Europe or both, I dont know.
How very interesting that the LORD gave me that child's song a few days ago.

Bin Laden Already Dead
December 26, 2001
 HELL-0 FOX!?  DO YOU READ YOUR OWN NEWS?  LOL![/size]
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

May 1, 2011
CNN reported that Osama bin Laden has been killed by the U.S. military in Pakistan.
Obama (the liar) claimed he ordered the strike that killed Osama.
Obama claimed we are not at war with Islam.  Of course we are!

In February, 2004, Iranian radio claimed Osama bin Laden had been captured in Pakistan’s border region with Afghanistan a long time ago.
True.  Sad when we can trust Iran more than our own whitehouse.

Osama bin Laden died of kidney failure soon after the September 11, 2001, attacks.
In 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said bin Laden had kidney disease.
Taliban said Bin Laden was suffering from a serious lung complication and died in mid-December, 2002.
http://www.infowars.com/red-alert...-osama-bin-laden-frozen-for-years

Osama bin Laden is dead
This is interesting!.  The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago.
He died in December 2001 and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan.
Pakistan president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.php

*    whatreallyhappened webpage has been attacked twice.  A friend of mine backed it up.
http://www.eagles-lair.org/Osama-Bin-Laden

He also backed up some other information you may wish to check out - unrelated to OBL
http://www.eagles-lair.org/volk

The lies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13256676
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/01/usama-bin-laden-dead-say-sources
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/...ead-pakistan/2011/05/02/id/394741
http://www.debka.com/article/20896

Even WND is parroting this lie!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293709

Al Qaeda is Muslim Brotherhood
al qaeda DOES NOT EXIST
.  Its a made up term for Islamic terrorism and CIA.
click to page 2

Osama bin Laden dead but when?  Questions questions!
Apparently, to do this on Sun night like this is pretty unusual.

CIA
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about5185.html


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BornAgain2

Apparently, Bin Laden has *finally* been killed, and they have his dead body to prove it. Rolling Eyes
Source: John King on CNN

Wow...CNN for awhile acted like it was nothing more than a national security speech, although it sure felt like Obama was going to make this anticipated DISCLOSURE.

With that being said, I thought Osama never even existed. Remember all those CNN camera crews that found him in a cave in Summer 2001, although our very reliable intelligence agencies had no idea where to find him? Rolling Eyes
CJ, could you change the title of this thread?
Lazarusty

He died years ago. This is another "wag the dog" story, to distract from the dodgy birth certificate.
Fox News reported him dead in 2001
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
CJ

More links
There is a nuclear bomb in Europe which will unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" if Osama bin Laden is captured or killed.
So no bomb since Osama died in 2001 - therefore - Barak Obama claiming now that he is dead, does this mean the NWO plan to blow a nuke?  We'll see.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/...ring-bin-laden-would-unleash-hell

Bin Laden buried at sea

At sea?  Muslims arent buried at sea!  How insane!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_burial

DO NOT MOCK people for their views.  Prove them wrong if you can.
If you don't think the Bible really prophesies an 'end-times' scenario, you are more likely to believe what people in the world say.
Any form of ridicule of a person or their beliefs is not just hurtful, but shows arrogance on behalf of the scoffer.
Ridicule is a wonderful weapon used to intimidate people into changing their views on anything, because it eventually attacks the person's integrity without actually providing any evidence that the claim or comment was wrong.
http://endtimes.eagles-lair.org

Osama bin Laden dead – but no body. Now for an explosion of conspiracy theories
No body. No photograph or DNA evidence – at least, not yet. [Update: The White House now says there was a DNA match between the body and tissue taken from bin Laden's dead sister's brain.] Conspiracy theorists are an ingenious bunch, but at the moment the White House is making this ridiculously easy for them. Gideon Rachman says he gives it 24 hours before conspiracy theories about Osama bin Laden begin circulating, but they are already flowing vigorously. The Taliban says he’s still alive, for example.

The Islamic world is amazingly receptive to what I call “counterknowledge”. Let’s start by reminding ourselves that most people in Muslim countries have their doubts about 9/11, and millions them believe unquestioningly that it was plotted by the CIA. One of the most important features of what sociologists call the cultic milieu is that political and religious extremists happily exchange conspiracy theories, irrespective of their origin. We’ve seen this in the popularity of the far-Right Russian Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the Arab world. We’ve also seen young, Left-wing disciples of Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore happily draw on 9/11 “truther” theories constructed in the American fascist underground.

Sir Christopher Meyer, our former Ambassador to the Washington, said this in response today’s news: “I can’t conceive the US president would go out to make a statement to the world that Bin Laden is dead without being able to produce evidence that he is dead. I think we will see some evidence – DNA or photographic – to prove there is not still some phantom Osama bin Laden riding the Tora Bora mountains.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news...-explosion-of-conspiracy-theories

Not everyone believes bin Laden really is dead
Knowing there would be disbelievers, the U.S. says it used convincing means to confirm Osama bin Laden's identity during and after the firefight that killed him. But the mystique that surrounded the terrorist chieftain in life is persisting in death.

Was it really him? How do we know? Where are the pictures?

Already, those questions are spreading in Pakistan and surely beyond. In the absence of photos and with his body given up to the sea, many people don't want to believe that bin Laden - the Great Emir to some, the fabled escape artist of the Tora Bora mountains to foe and friend alike - is really dead.

U.S. officials are balancing that skepticism with the sensitivities that might be inflamed by showing images they say they have of the dead al-Qaida leader and video of his burial at sea. Still, it appeared likely that photographic evidence would be produced.

"We are going to do everything we can to make sure that nobody has any basis to try to deny that we got Osama bin Laden," John Brennan, President Barack Obama's counterterrorism adviser, said Monday. He said the U.S. will "share what we can because we want to make sure that not only the American people but the world understand exactly what happened."

In July 2003, the U.S. took heat but also quieted most conspiracy theorists by releasing graphic photos of the corpses of Saddam Hussein's two powerful sons to prove American forces had killed them.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stor...ULT&CTIME=2011-05-02-17-17-06

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CJ

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU BELIEVE!  NEWS is CREATED!

O be careful little EYES what you SEE
O be careful little EARS what you HEAR
O be careful little FEET where you GO
For GOD is watching and the devil is busy

Osama bin Laden  *  update  May  3,  2011
I am not perfect, but I do my best.  I still believe Osama has been dead for years.
In talking with a military veteran, I submit this from him, but dont ask me to explain.
He said SEAL team 6 is NOT controlled by Obama.  Obama gave them no orders, had nothing to do with this 'job.'
Team 6 is CIA, DELTA, green beret, black ops and 'does not exist.'  DELTA is green army, the best of the best.
He believes the body was buried at sea.  I said Alex Jones claims Osama's body has been frozen for years, did they drop
his chunk of ice in the sea?  He said yes.'  DONT ask me to explain the above, I cant.
But I certainly can tell you it will cause trouble.  But this trouble is PLANNED by the NWO.
Their evil purpose is behind the timing of this.  Osama is totally unimportant whether he has been dead for years or just killed May 1
which is an illuminati key date.  The death of Hitler was announced May 1.  
IT IS NOT a GREAT DAY for AMERIKA.

Related?  
NORTHCOM raised CONUS alert Sunday, May 1
It was a long thread on FreeRepublic which was later pulled.
Pay attention.  Tell your loved ones you love them TODAY - in case you never see them again.

Pakistan said they did not help hide bin Laden
Osama bin Laden’s presence in a million-dollar compound raises questions.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42865101/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853787/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden

Washington dismisses Pakistan claims that it didnt know Osama was living in Abbottabad as highly unlikely, as he had lived there 3 years.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4063699,00.html

ISRAEL has gone on HIGH ALERT
Israel fears bin Laden revenge attacks.  High alert in Israel preparing for the possibility that Muslims will attempt to strike American targets and interests in Israel to avenge the killing of Osama bin Laden.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4063656,00.html


Jihad coming to heart of America
Al-Qaida revenge attacks to have devastating effect
May 02, 2011     Aaron Klein
The death of Osama bin Laden will bring jihad, predicted British Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary.  Anjem Choudary is the Evil man who wants a mosque at ground zero NY.
There are motivated jihadists in the heart of America who will likely carry out revenge operations.
It is known Muslims are in every state in the USA.  They dont need a reason to attack.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=294153
http://www.debka.com/article/20898

infolinks
Delta Force does NOT serve under the president.
DELTA unit is under the organization of the US Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) but is controlled by the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force

combat search and rescue (CSAR) helicopter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MH-53_Pave_Low

Ultra-secret SEAL team from bin Laden raid is based in Virginia
http://www.14wfie.com/story/14555...ma-bin-laden-raid-are-based-in-va

Did Senior Military/Intelligence Officials Overrule President Obama Regarding Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden?
http://newsflavor.com/politics/us...g-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden


ZionsCRY Commentary / Analysis
I just had this thought as to 'why now.'
I have believed the coiled snake (terrorists) were just waiting for a signal at the 'right' time.
This may be the signal.  The NWO control it all.  They have spread jihad across the mideast the past year for their evil purposes.
Al-Qaida was formed by the CIA and Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA.
This is the excuse for a terror attack on USA and/or Europe.

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CJ

0bama never gave the hit order on 0sama bin Laden.  He is such a LIAR!   Twisted Evil

Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama  
Hit ordered AGAINST 0bama's request
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=137494

Obama will soon hang
Al-Aqsa Mosque imam vows to avenge killing of Osama bin Laden - should not rejoice too much for killing lions'
An imam from the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem vowed to take revenge over "the western dogs" for killing Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan on Sunday.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4064183,00.html
CJ

Osama Bin Laden Dead Hoax

Osama Bin Laden Dead Hoax Exposed - Totally STAGED event  
Contrived victory in the War on Terror surrounding a man who was already dead for years.
After nearly a decade of hunting for Bin Laden, he is summarily shot in the head and allegedly dumped into the ocean (conveniently making the body unavailable).
PLEASE TRY to get beyond the gravely voice!  Smile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBPVkpmoeg&feature=feedu

What really happened in Osama bin Laden's villa?
May 3, 2011, 10:23 PM  debka
Tags:  Osama bin Laden   Al Qaeda   US special forces On tenterhooks?

And what's next for al Qaeda?  
The coming DEBKA-Net-Weekly out Friday dispels some of the fog around the killing of Osama bin Laden by a US special force - such as
Why now?
Where were his bodyguards?  ( rumor Osama's own guards killed him )
What was he doing with five computers, 100 storage devices and no gun?

This issue also will lay out information on al Qaeda's next steps and answer another question: Where to look for its dead leader's avengers?
(Unfortunately debka is subscribe only.  They may have more on this link next week - or they may not.)
http://www.debka.com/article/20901


Pakistan dismisses US raid fears
LIVE updating, video report
Key points

  1. Osama Bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot by US forces in Pakistan, but he resisted efforts to capture him alive, US officials say
  2. US forces had faced immediate and sustained resistance from many other people in the compound who were armed, the White House adds
  3. Bin Laden was killed in a raid by US special forces on a compound in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, some 100km from Islamabad. His body was buried at sea
  4. The US is hesitating over releasing a picture of Bin Laden's body which is described as "gruesome"
  5. White House counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan says material seized during the raid in Abbottabad could provide leads to the whereabouts of Ayman al-Zawihiri, thought to be al-Qaeda's deputy leader
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698


Special Broadcast on The Bin Laden Hoax
Alex Jones part 1 of 6 parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F49vg7P48Lw&feature=related


Bin Laden Died In 2001

May 4, 2011
Steve Pieczenik is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack.
In April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik said that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse.

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore.
His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-u...ied-in-2001-911-a-false-flag.html

US Navy Captain Pieczenik said OBL died in 2001
http://tinyurl.com/3o5hddf
BornAgain2

Details of bin Laden’s burial at sea: Prepare to be sickened
3 Comments May 2nd, 2011 4:47 pm ET
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By Howard Portnoy Libertarian Examiner Share:Share on FacebookShare on TwitterEmailPrint..Do you like this Article?When word first came out that arch terrorist Osama bin Laden’s body had been dumped at sea, there seemed to be a cohesive logic to the action. Bury the cretin, and his grave becomes a shrine for future generations of would-be mass murderers. Dispose of him in the briny, and you eliminate that problem.

However, as Weasel Zippers is reporting, the matter of disposing of the terrorist’s remains was not quite so cut and dried:

Osama bin Laden’s corpse was taken to the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, officials tell ABC News.

The process of his burial at sea was done in accordance with Muslim law—a Muslim seaman conducted the process and said the proper prayers, with bin Laden’s body wrapped in the appropriate way.

Administration officials say it’s important to do this so as to not inflame the Muslim world
.

And then there’s the matter of the “prayers” that were said after bin Laden’s corpse was carefully washed and wrapped in accordance with sharia law:

O Allah, forgive our living and our dead, those who are present among us and those who are absent, our young and our old, our males and our females. O Allah, whoever You keep alive, keep him alive in Islam, and whoever You cause to die, cause him to die with faith. O Allah, forgive him and have mercy on him, keep him safe and sound and forgive him, honor the place where he settles and make his entrance wide; wash him with water and snow and hail, and cleanse him of sin as a white garment is cleansed of dirt. O Allah, give him a house better than his house and a family better than his family. O Allah, admit him to Paradise and protect him from the torment of the grave and the torment of Hell-fire; make his grave spacious and fill it with light. O Allah, do not deprive us of the reward and do not cause us to go astray after this. [Emphasis added]

http://www.examiner.com/libertari...ial-at-sea-prepare-to-be-sickened
CJ

NEWS May  5,  2011 Michael Savage

- USA tells Russia the time for Apocalypse Equation is NOW
- USA  Risks Nuclear Attack over Osama Bin Laden Death
- Aliens on Their Way, will be here in 2012
- Warning Signs Abound in a  World Gone Blind
- Awakening Moon Shocks Scientists as Massive Asteroids Near Earth
- They are going to come for you,  WHY are you helping them?

I have seen this website in the past.  There is no 'Sorcha,' its a pseudonym.
A man's name and a group of nuns has been attributed to it.  
There are some interesting headlines there, and the articles always reference news links just like I do.  No, no, I am not Sorcha.
There at least is more truth than fiction with Sorcha.

I simply cannot trust any news source now, not one.  Every single one went nuts over Osama bin Laden.
Michael Savage on radio said on air - did ANYTHING happen?  
Mark Levin said he felt like he was reading a comic book the entire OBL reporting is such a comedy of lies.
http://whatdoesitmean.com
http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com
CJ

May  5,  2011     Thursday

The Day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.  While they are saying, Peace and safety!
Then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.

God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us.
Therefore encourage one another and build up one another.  1 Thessalonians 5

I am getting this OUT of ZionsCRY, only posting it here.  I am sick of it.   Twisted Evil

The antichrist of the bible is here and ready to take control.  
His people have been in control worldwide for some time - and the past 12 months have set their evil end time plan in motion.
The Islamic Mahdi or 12th Imam is the same guy, the man of sin.

NOTHING we see is REAL!!!

Bin Laden was UNARMED, a violation of intl law to kill him.
LOOK at the map of Pakistan.  Supposedly Osama was taken out of Islamabad in the north of Pakistan.
The Arabian Sea is miles south - and thats where they dumped the body?
There is something beyond what we are told - what?  WHO was killed?  Pinch me.  Its all nuts.

WHY NOW?  This may be the signal.  The NWO control it all.  WHAT is going on NOT being reported?
They have spread jihad across the mideast the past year for their evil purposes.
I have believed the coiled snake (terrorists) were just waiting for a signal at the 'right' time.
Al-Qaida was formed by the CIA and Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA.
This MAY NOT have been Osama, but a family member.  Others were killed.

There is no way a helicopter would NOT have been seen.
The entire 'raid' seems outside the realm of possibility - even for DELTA

Are Osama and Obama brothers?  the same person?
http://wellaware1.com/Obama/Obama_vs_osama.htm

ISRAEL has gone on HIGH ALERT
NORTHCOM raised CONUS alert Sunday, May 1

It was a long thread on FreeRepublic which was later pulled.
Pay attention.  Tell your loved ones you love them TODAY - in case you never see them again.


December 26, 2001  Bin Laden Dead
HELL-0 FOX!?  DO YOU READ YOUR OWN NEWS?  LOL!  This is a black day.
All the world is reporting this lie. Even DEBKA, Stratfor Intel and Newsmax are repeating this lie.


May  3 - Al-Aqsa Mosque imam said Barack Obama should hang.

I am not perfect, but I do my best.  I still believe Osama has been dead for years.
In talking with a military veteran, I submit this from him, but dont ask me to explain.
He said SEAL team 6 is NOT controlled by Obama.  Obama gave them no orders, had nothing to do with this 'job.'
Team 6 is CIA, DELTA, green beret, black ops and 'does not exist.'  DELTA is green army, the best of the best.
He believes the body was buried at sea.  I said Alex Jones claims Osama's body has been frozen for years, did they drop
his chunk of ice in the sea?  He said yes.'  DONT ask me to explain the above, I cant.
But I certainly can tell you it will cause trouble.  But this trouble is PLANNED by the NWO.
Their evil purpose is behind the timing of this.  Osama is totally unimportant whether he has been dead for years or just killed May 1
which is an illuminati key date.  The death of Hitler was announced May 1.  
IT IS NOT a GREAT DAY for AMERIKA.

Pakistan said they did not help hide bin Laden

Osama bin Laden’s presence in a million-dollar compound raises questions.  Washington dismisses Pakistan claims
that it didnt know Osama was living in Abbottabad as highly unlikely, as he had lived there 3 years.

May  2 -  They have really made up an elaborate LIE about this!
Great campaign lie, except Osama's been dead for years.
This is another wag the dog story, to distract from the dodgy birth certificate.
0bama is a liar .. and has been since the day a lab created him.
Obama bin Laden died years ago, perhaps at Tora Bora.
He died in December 2001 and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan.

Never believe any news.  Never believe 0bama can succeed at anything.
Evreyone is parroting the NWO lie.  Question is - why?  
My hunch - The NWO will blow a nuke in 'the west' - whether USA or Europe or both, I dont know.
How very interesting that the LORD gave me that child's song a few days ago.
It greatly saddens me that almost everyone believes the LIE.

Osama bin Laden declared dead May 1, buried at sea.  LOL!  Please!
Hitler was declared dead on May 1 - its an illuminati holiday.

May  1, 2011  -  CNN reported that Osama bin Laden has been killed by the U.S. military in Pakistan.
Obama (the liar) claimed he ordered the strike that killed Osama.
Obama claimed we are not at war with Islam.  Of course we are!

In February, 2004, Iranian radio claimed Osama bin Laden had been captured in Pakistan’s border region with
Afghanistan a long time ago.  True.  Sad when we can trust Iran more than our own whitehouse.
Osama bin Laden died of kidney failure soon after the September 11, 2001, attacks.
In 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said bin Laden had kidney disease.
Taliban said Bin Laden was suffering from a serious lung complication and died in mid-December, 2002.

There are some who claim Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood were both created by the CIA.
There are some who claim 911 was done by the NWO which included some in the USA govt.
I know some bomb hoaxes our govt created since 911.
I know the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster was done intentionally.
PRAY for wisdom and discernment!  Your very LIFE depends on it.


They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.  2 Thessalonians 2:11


Jihad coming to heart of America
Al-Qaida revenge attacks to have devastating effect.  The death of Osama bin Laden will bring jihad, predicted
British Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary.  Anjem Choudary is the Evil man who wants a mosque at ground zero NY.
There are motivated jihadists in the heart of America who will likely carry out revenge operations.  May 2, Aaron Klein
It is known Muslims are in every state in the USA.  They dont need a reason to attack.

What is coming?
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about1874.html
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CJ

The time for war is near  
May  5,  2011
  Jerry Golden
Hamas in Gaza join with Egypt Muslim Brotherhood.  
Egypt opened the Rafah Border crossing between Egypt and Gaza  giving them freedom of movement to ship more weapons into Gaza for the coming war.  
This negates having to use the hundreds of  their smuggling tunnels, they can just drive truck loads of weapons and ammunition across the Egyptian/Gazan border.
The time for war seems very near indeed.

I dont believe anything Obama says period.  He simply is not capable of telling the truth on any subject.  
There is something very fishy about Osama bin Laden being dumped into the sea so quickly.  
You dont give that kind of courtesy to a terrorist who has supposedly killed thousands of Americans unless you are trying to hide something.
As for the pictures, they look like his head has been freezer burned and placed on a body that doesn't belong to it.
As for the latest Birth Certificate - it is a proven fake and that is a fact, not a conspiracy theory.

What Obama has done to the USA and the world may be irreversible.  The longer he remains in the Oval Office the worse things will be.
His greatest sin has been his treatment of Israel. God cannot lie. Just look around and see the proof of this.
God's chastisement is already falling upon those nations who are coming against His people Israel. More is coming.

Another Holocaust is coming, Jews are already starting to run for their lives.
With all that is happening globally it is easy to be distracted.  I want to encourage you to keep your eyes on Yeshua (Jesus).  
Prepare for your family and be very kind to others, for they need what you have to offer.  
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel and all the IDF soldiers.  Pray for this ministry and your part in it.
Shalom, Jerry Golden
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/re...-around-and-see-what-is-happening

Osama frozen
http://www.infowars.com/red-alert...-osama-bin-laden-frozen-for-years

Osama bin Laden dead
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about1931.html
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CJ

Questions abound on Osama takedown
Alan Keyes does NOT mince words!  LOL!
Following the track of events in America's governmental and political life these days is like reading Pravda in the heyday of Soviet Communism.
The sequence of events of the takedown of Osama bin Laden have what seems to be a familiar structure. But every translation runs into contradictions.
Nothing about this is as it appears.  Read the rest
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=295357


I am concerned about a US-pakistan war, they have nukes.
One of bin laden wives spent 6 years in that pakistan house, WHO if anyone did SEALs shoot?
If there ever was an operation .. the one(s) shot may not have been osama
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110506/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_bin_laden
CJ

Hoax!  The always lying White House Claims 4-Year-Old Bin Laden Video is New Footage
May  7,  2011
Dubious Bin Laden “Home Movies” Identical To Tapes Released 4 Years Ago By Pentagon Front Group
In a desperate effort to bolster its crumbling official narrative, the White House today released a set of dubious Bin Laden
“home movies” purportedly seized from his compound during the raid on Sunday night that it claims show Bin Laden on camera in 2010,
but the tapes are almost identical to footage released almost four years ago by a notorious Pentagon front group that acts as a conduit for US intelligence by regularly releasing fake Al-Qaeda videos.

Before we even look at the new tapes, recall that the Washington Post reported last year on how CIA officials recruited “darker-skinned employees” to create fake Bin Laden tapes.
The fact that the CIA created fake Bin Laden tapes is an admitted fact, not a conspiracy theory.

Laughing   Extraordinary home videos taken from Osama bin Laden’s hideout show the terrorist leader watching news coverage of himself on television.
“The videos were seized by Navy SEALs after Bin Laden was killed. They were shown to reporters this afternoon by intelligence officials.”

One of the videos purports to show Bin Laden watching television news reports about himself.
The footage is filmed from almost behind his head and only shows a small portion of his face.
The TV shows footage of Bin Laden as well as still images and footage of Barack Obama.
Interestingly, the only moment in which the cameraman zooms in on the TV so that you can clearly see the picture is when it either shows Bin Laden, Obama, or both of them in a still shot together.
http://www.infowars.com/hoax-whit...d-bin-laden-tapes-are-new-footage
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CJ

osama Bin Laden died long before US raid

Bin Laden died long before US raid
May  9,  2011  
Osama bin Laden had died long before the US army raided his compound in Pakistan, the Fars news agency reported.
We have exact information that indicates that bin Laden had died from an illness some time ago.
Why didn't (the White House) show his body?
Why did they throw it into the sea?
The White House has released false reports to cast a shadow over the developments in the region.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4066469,00.html

Ex-CIA director James Woolsey said White House should have kept mouths shut
Bragging about seized bin Laden intel is one of the LAST things you want to do
.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=296473


OBL never existed, made up, a HOAX
10 Facts That Prove The Bin Laden Fable Is a Contrived Hoax  - prisonplanet
http://tinyurl.com/oblpphx
Lazarusty

Rather amazingly, Letterman mentioned the conspiracy on his show, that OBL died years ago to distract from the birth certificate. They laughed about it as if it were a joke but the fact they even mentioned it pleasantly surprised me. They normally don't even dare mention such things even as a joke because of the power of suggestion.
CJ

Laughing      The purported killing of the alleged terrorist Osama bin Laden  
Read and think .....  PUPPET PRESS PEDDLING PURE PROPAGANDA!
May 2011  Just when one thinks that American peoples capacity for self delusion has reached its lowest point and couldn’t possible get any worse,
along comes the world’s most famous terrorist caricature to prove us all wrong again.

During the past fortnight these people have been on what can only be described as a sort of ‘death ecstasy’ over the
purported killing of the alleged 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden,
the Saudi Arabian born and raised fighter of Soviet forces in Afghanistan funded by the CIA who was put on the FBI’s Most Wanted List for his role in various terror attacks,
but never charged with anything having to do with the 9/11 attacks on America.

Since Osama bin Laden was assassinated under orders from President Obama (Or was it his ‘purported to be dead brother’ Salem bin Laden?) the White House has been unable to give a straight narrative on the US military operation that killed him giving out at least 10 different versions, all of them contradicted by the members of his family who witnessed it and, surprisingly, all agree that this alleged terrorist ‘mastermind’ was captured unarmed and then promptly executed.

As to offering proof of their claim to have killed bin Laden/Tim Osman (his CIA code name) the Obama administration refused to release any photos opting instead to release what they say were video tapes they confiscated from his Pakistan compound, and which, as always, left more questions than answers.

Now the questions, and as you can see by viewing the top left photo, arising from these video tapes are:
1.) Why is a left-handed bin Laden using his right hand to operate a remote control device?  
2.) Why is the TV/Satellite configuration plugged into a 110 volt outlet that doesn’t exist in Pakistan which operates on 220-240 volts?
3.) Why is bin Laden’s television plugged into a Hughes HX Satellite Broadband Internet device available only to US military and contract personnel stationed in Afghanistan?

The answers to these questions are, of course, unknowable, but without their being answered has left nearly 20% of the American people believing that bin Laden isn’t dead, according to the Zogby polling organization.

These 20% of Americans not believing their governments bin Laden “death story” join the 27% who don’t believe Obama was born in the US, the 84% who believe 9/11 was an ‘inside job’, the 57% who don’t believe President Kennedy was killed by a lone assassin, and the 34% who believe in UFO’s.

For the United States purporting itself to be the most free country in the world, these numbers are beyond astounding and point to what can only be described as a fundamental breakdown in the level of trust between the American people, their government, and their press establishment.  Why this is so is always blamed by US government spokesman, and their mainstream press lapdogs, as the American people being “conspiracy nuts”, “birthers” (those not believing Obama is a US citizen), “truthers” (those not believing in the 9/11 fairytale), “crackpots”, you name it.

But the real truth behind the breakdown of faith between the American people, their government, and their mainstream press lapdogs, is more complicated and strikes at the very core being of whom these people really are….the world’s most addicted gamblers. Out of our planet’s entire nearly 7 billion population, the United States, with its population of nearly 300 million that’s just 4.5% of the world’s total, account for fully 36% of all the gambling taking place EVERYWHERE!

And in being the gamblers that they are, the American people, more than any people in history, take risks beyond those of any society of human beings in the world opting to depend on themselves more than anything else.  Unlike the Europeans who eschew risk opting instead to be taken care of by their governments from ‘cradle to grave’, these Americans, when given the chance, choose to live life on their terms, and no one else’s.

Like the gamblers that they are these Americans, likewise, do what all good gamblers do when assessing their risks…the ask the simple question: “What Are The Odds?”

The definition of the word “odds” basically means the probability that something is so, will occur, or is more likely to occur than something else, and when it comes to these Americans being told something by their government or lapdog mainstream press they always ask themselves that question “What are the odds?” If the “odds” don’t match up with what they are being told these Americans simple discount it and then look for other explanations that make more sense.  After all, if something doesn’t make sense, these Americans argue to themselves, then usually it isn’t true.
READ MUCH MORE here, click
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1480.htm

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The Death Of Bin Laden, The Death Of America
May 12, 2011  
   By Chuck Baldwin
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=3503

News outlets all over America have repeatedly announced the government story that Navy SEALS recently killed Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in a palatial “safe house” in Pakistan.

But, of course, government photos of the dead bin Laden will not be released to the public for fear of inciting animosity among bin Laden’s militant Muslim followers--as if the announcement that he had been killed wouldn’t be enough to enrage them! And, furthermore, the body of bin Laden was quickly buried at sea out of “respect” for Muslim tradition that one has a speedy burial.

But no mention is made, of course, as to why his body could not have been buried. Were all nearby cemeteries filled? And the question, “Why were the rest of the dead bodies of the other Muslims who were killed in the raid also not buried at sea?” has neither been asked nor answered. The media simply keeps regurgitating the announcement that Navy SEALS killed bin Laden. And, of course, the one thing a burial at sea accomplishes is it circumvents any attempt by independent sources to confirm the true identity of bin Laden via a post burial examination.

Is Osama bin Laden really dead? I don’t think there is any question about it. In fact, bin Laden has been dead for several years. If readers will recall, this is the latest of several announcements by various government spokesmen that Osama bin Laden left the land of the living. As respected researcher Joel Skousen notes in his latest WorldAffairs Brief, no less than 9 public announcements of bin Laden’s demise have been made spanning the years 2001-2009.

For example, on January 18, 2002, the Pakistani President declared,
“I think now, frankly, he  is dead.”
In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN, “I would come to believe that  probably is dead.”
In November of 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in October of that year.

In September of 2006, French intelligence leaked a report suggesting Osama had died in Pakistan.

In March of 2009, noted military and intelligence analyst Angelo Codevilla stated, “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama bin Laden.”

And in May of 2009, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari said,
“I’ve said before that he - I don’t think he’s alive.” He also said the head of US intelligence told him they [the US] hadn’t heard from Osama bin Laden in 7 years so they presumed him dead.”

Skousen also points out the fact that it is unfathomable that bin Laden could have remained alive and hiding out in caves and primitive safe houses for an extended period of time, because it was a well known fact that he suffered from acute kidney disease that required almost daily usage of a dialysis machine (which was NOT present in the
home where the US government claimed he was shot). US intelligence personnel surely knew that bin Laden was treated at the American Hospital in Dubai in July of 2001 by Dr. Terry Callaway, and that CIA station chief Larry Mitchell met bin Laden in the hospital during the time he was admitted. In fact, French television and the Agence France Presse reported that bin Laden was hospitalized between July 4th and 14th of that year.

Joel Skousen’s web site
http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com

I certainly do not doubt that Navy SEALS killed someone during that raid. In all likelihood, it was a bin Laden look-alike who had outlived his usefulness. The official story of the raid has changed so many times and has so many holes in it, it is an embarrassment to the US national press corps that they have carried the story “as is” in such a careless and unprofessional manner. But, then again, the national press corps has been little more than a national propaganda machine for the federal government for decades, anyway. So, why should this story be any different?

Check out the following report that chronicles some of the more obvious discrepancies and laughable explanations of the government’s official stories
http://tinyurl.com/446qt5g

So, the obvious question that needs to be asked is, “What is to be gained by the announcement of this raid in which Osama bin Laden was supposedly killed?”

For one thing, this is going to make it extremely difficult for Republicans to beat President Barack Obama in the 2012 elections. Immediately following the raid’s announcement, Obama’s approval rating soared by almost 25 percentage points. And with an extremely weak GOP Presidential field (believe it or not, Republican Congressman Ron Paul actually fares better head-to-head against Obama than any other Republican candidate--but the Powers That Be (PTB) within the propaganda media and the GOP establishment will do everything in their power to prevent Paul from gaining the nomination), the “bin Laden factor” makes Obama almost unbeatable. As Skousen astutely asked, how many terrorists have Gingrich, Palin, or Huckabee killed?

However, the thing that benefits the most from this raid is America’s emerging police state, which is now strategically positioned to take another giant leap forward.

With bin Laden now declared “dead,” the US government will have to find another excuse to continue the “War On Terrorism.” Will US forces now pull out of Afghanistan? Not on your life! Literally! US forces are permanently embedded in the Middle East. They are never coming home. In fact, the US 2nd Marine Division is on alert for an insertion into Libya, and US attacks against Syria are soon to follow.

All the PTB need now is another 9/11-style attack, and the architects that are drawing up plans for America becoming a Gestapo-style police state will be free to launch their evil machinations almost at will.
And revenge for the death of bin Laden will be the reason provided to the American public that will convince them to accept this next round of attacks against the Bill of Rights and America’s liberties.
While Americans are rejoicing over the death of Osama bin Laden, they need to be infuriated at the death of America, because that is what this so-called “War on Terror” is accomplishing.
CJ

TRUTH COMES OUT
OSAMA BIN LADEN RAID NOT OBAMA's CALL
Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely reveals name of leader who authorized operation

The Stand Up America research team has learned from a senior and sensitive intelligence community source and official that President Obama did not know of the raid in Abbottabad to kill Osama bin Laden on May 1, 2011, until after the helicopters with SEAL Team Six had crossed into Pakistani airspace.

The U.S.’ most sophisticated deception techniques were used to make this very dangerous penetration into Pakistan without Pakistan knowledge. The president was notified at the golf course and called away, which is why he was in the strange seated position in the picture that documented the White House operation room event.

Director of Central Intelligence Leon Panetta was the key player who organized and supported this daring raid. He signed the “execute orders” with only a few people aware: Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, then-Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, Adm. Bill Mullen and Gen. David Petraeus.

The White House was closed out of the decision because the president, through Valarie Jarrett, had turned down two or three other earlier proposals. The deputy of central intelligence and his covert planning team were extremely frustrated at all the denials and saw the opportunity slipping away, as implausible as it seems. Leon Panetta was driven to ensure a successful mission after the U.S. lost seven CIA officers on Jan. 4, 2010, in Afghanistan from the action of a Jordanian double agent. Panetta convinced his other principals to make the decision that was actually within his authority. He received their full-fledged support, but the president, according to the official, remained clueless on the mission, which was why he appeared so calm at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner the night before and why he was on the golf course when the helicopters crossed over Pakistani borders enroute to Abbottabad.

Leon Panetta is the leader who, in fact, made it happen – along with intelligence community professionals. Today, the intelligence community professionals hold Panetta in very high regard, as does the military in the Pentagon. History will treat him very well once the full story is released and the true events exposed.

This tremendously serious and sensitive information was relayed by a source who has been very frustrated with the continued dishonesty within the White House as it tries to be blame the intelligence community for the Libyan debacle in which Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other brave and dedicated Americans were murdered by an al-Qaida affiliate.
It is reported that frustration is at a boiling point within the agencies agencies (particularly State, Department of Defense and CIA) with the actions and cover-ups of the president and his administration hierarchy.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/osama-bin-laden-raid-not-obamas-call
CJ

Bin Laden Raid One Big Lie
Sept. 30, 2013
Seymour Hersh  -  Pathetic US media fails to challenge White House
September 27, 2013  Paul Joseph Watson, Infowars.com
Seymour Hersh says that the raid which killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011 is one big lie and that not one word of the Obama mafia narrative on what happened is true.
The Navy Seal raid that supposedly resulted in his death is one big lie, not one word of it is true.
The Obama mafia habitually lies because the press allows them to get away with it.
Its pathetic, they are more than obsequious, they are afraid to pick on this guy [Obama].

The raid that supposedly led to Bin Ladens death has been shrouded in mystery for 2 years.
Speculation that Obama may have lied about it persist.
Bin Laden had been dead for years and the raid on the compound in Pakistan was a stunt.

Hersh lambastes the corporate press and particularly the New York Times for carrying water for Obama.
Hersh solution is to shut down news networks like NBC and ABC and fire 90% of mainstream editors, replacing them with real journalists who are outsiders and not afraid to speak truth to power.
The republic is in trouble, we lie about everything, lying has become the staple.
http://www.infowars.com/seymour-hersh-bin-laden-death-one-big-lie


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CJ

Bin Laden Raid One Big Lie
Pathetic US media fails to challenge White House
I dont know why they are revisiting this again.
September 27, 2013
Paul Joseph Watson, Infowars.com
Seymour Hersh says that the raid which killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011 is one big lie and that not one word of the Obama mafia narrative on what happened is true.
The Navy Seal raid that supposedly resulted in his death is one big lie, not one word of it is true.
The Obama mafia habitually lies because the press allows them to get away with it.
Its pathetic, they are more than obsequious, they are afraid to pick on this guy [Obama].

The raid that supposedly led to Bin Ladens death has been shrouded in mystery for 2 years.
Speculation that Obama may have lied about it persist.
Bin Laden had been dead for years and the raid on the compound in Pakistan was a stunt.

Hersh lambastes the corporate press and particularly the New York Times for carrying water for Obama.
Hersh solution is to shut down news networks like NBC and ABC and fire 90% of mainstream editors, replacing them with real journalists who are outsiders and not afraid to speak truth to power.
The republic is in trouble, we lie about everything, lying has become the staple.
http://www.infowars.com/seymour-hersh-bin-laden-death-one-big-lie
http://tinyurl.com/osamaxLIE
CJ




Osama (Usama) bin Laden was Muslim Brotherhood - CIA

Osama's birthplace was Saudi Arabia.
The CIA hired him.  Obama would NOT kill his brother Muslim.
The Saudi royal family put Barak Hussein Obama into the whitehouse.
Barak Hussein Obama is a Sunni Muslim Brotherhood terrorist
.

Al Qaeda is Muslim Brotherhood
Al qaeda means 'the base'
There are some 'out there' who say its the CIA
It is known Osama bin Laden worked for the CIA
When you hear al qaeda, realize IT DOES NOT EXIST.  Its a made up term for Islamic terrorism.

Osama bin Laden was Muslim Brotherhood Al-Qaeda
Walid Shoebat writes - al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood have one common goal, the overthrow of western civilization in general, and the United States in particular. Where they differ is on the idea of how best to achieve that goal. The Brotherhood believes in masking its intentions while al-Qaeda does not.
http://counterjihadreport.com/201...hiri-osama-was-muslim-brotherhood

In Syria the United States are allies with al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood, which in its charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blo...odd-bedfellows-in-the-arab-spring


Obama, Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood
July 15 Obama formally recognized the rebel leadership in Libya which allows the MB rebels (al qaeda) to access the $30 billion in Libyan assets held in the USA.
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/davi...-qaeda-and-the-muslim-brotherhood


Muslim Brotherhood seeks to take over Middle East
October 19, 2012 Avi Dichter
Their worldview revolves around one large Islamic caliphate that encompasses the entire Arab world.  Its NOT the western idea of democracy, just the OPPOSITE
"Their worldview revolves around one large Islamic caliphate that encompasses the entire Arab world, and they will ditch democracy," says Homefront Defense Minister Avi Dichter • After an uneventful sojourn in Kadima, the former Shin Bet chief is jumping ship and joining the Likud: It's the only party that can bring security stability to Israel.
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=6140

Muslim Brotherhood taking over USA, Obama is Sunni Muslim
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about3601.html

Obama is Sunni Muslim, Muslim Brotherhood taking over USA
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about3601.html

Afganistan war
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about82.html

Libya Moammar Gadhafi killed
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about2418.html

LIBYA, multiple pages
Barak Obama planned Benghazi with Egypt months ago!

http://cj.myfreeforum.org/ftopic1731-98.php
CJ

Osama Bin Laden photos purge
Feb 11, 2014
 Eleven days after the 2011 US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden(?), all photos of the corpse ordered destroyed.

WHY?

The order to purge the photos came after Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request with the Defense Department seeking all photographs and/or video recordings of Usama Bin Laden taken during and/or after the U.S. military operation in Pakistan on or about May 1, 2011.
http://rt.com/usa/bin-laden-photos-destroyed-467

Judicial Watch knew the entire thing was phony, every detail.
This Obama mafia is a passel of habitual LIARS.



Bin Laden Son-in-Law Convicted At NYC Terror Trial
March 26, 2014
A federal jury in Manhattan today found Sulaiman Abu Ghayth guilty of conspiring to kill U.S. nationals, scheming to provide material support to al-Qaeda and providing manpower to the group through his recruiting efforts. Jurors reached their verdict after six hours of deliberations following a three-week trial in a courthouse blocks from where World Trade Center once stood.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/26...-relative-found-guilty/index.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/201...f-aiding-al-qaeda-after-9-11.html
http://radio.foxnews.com/2014/03/...law-convicted-at-nyc-terror-trial
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/n...-kill-americans-article-1.1735246
CJ

Afghan helicopter crash kills 31 US troops
August  6,  2011
 A US helicopter crash in eastern Afghanistan has killed 31 US special forces and seven Afghan soldiers, President Hamid Karzai's office says.
The helicopter was taking the personnel back to their base after an operation.
It is not clear how the crash happened but the Taliban have said they shot the helicopter down.
The incident is believed to be the biggest single loss of life for US forces in Afghanistan since they began operations in 2001.

The helicopter went down overnight in Wardak province, the statement from President Karzai's office said.
It was returning from an operation against the Taliban in which eight insurgents are believed to have been killed.

"The president of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan expresses his sympathy and deep condolences to US President Barack Obama and the family of the victims," the statement said.

The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force has confirmed the helicopter crash but has not released details of casualties or the cause.
Nato said it was mounting an operation to recover the helicopter and determine the cause of the crash.
A Taliban spokesman said insurgents brought down the helicopter with a rocket
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14430735

BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA HAD THEM ALL MURDERED
* Dates out of sequence - added from another thread
CJ

Seal Team 6 Was Murdered
I have no way to know for certain about this.  This is one of those things I dont like to report, because there are so many reasons it may be misleading.
The SEAL team has been angry about the fabricated OBL raid and ready to talk.
THAT I BELIEVE!  I believe - and reported at the time - the entire raid was FAKED, made up, never happened.
30 members of the American Special Forces, most of which belonged to Navy SEAL Team 6, were killed in a (Taliban?) rocket attack.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/sources-seal-team-6-was-murdered.html


Paul Craig Roberts reports that onsite witnesses observed the Seals helicopter which had landed at the (alleged) OBL compound blew up just after take-off, killing all on board.
Creating Evidence Where There Is None, the alleged killing of Osama bin Laden by a commando team of US Seals in Pakistan.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts319.html


USAF helicopter crash
Jan. 8, 2014
 Four killed when a US air force (USAF) helicopter crashed in Norfolk, England.
The helicopter is an HH-60G Pave Hawk, based at RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk.
Motorists are being diverted away as there is live ammunition on board.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/08/wor...copter-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Navy helicopter crashes near Virginia
Jan 9, 2014
Very odd 2 helicopter crashes in 2 days, both off Norfolk, one USA and one UK.
Two Navy crewmen have died after helicopter crashed during training off the coast of Virginia.
A MH-53E Sea Dragon went into the waters off Virginia Beach near Fort Story.
Four crew members were pulled from the ocean after the crash, but two later died at a nearby hospital.
Search underway for a fifth missing crew member.

DEBKA - Two US military helicopters crash separately
A US Navy helicopter, a CH-53H Super Stallion, went down in the Atlantic Ocean 12 miles off the coast of Norfolk, Virginia. At the eastern seaboard of the Atlantic, another US military helicopter crashed on the same day, flying on a training exercise from a base on in northern Norfolk in Britain, killing 4.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01...coast-virginia/?intcmp=latestnews
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25659531


* Dates out of sequence - added from another thread
Very odd 2 helicopter crashes in 2 days, both off Norfolk, one USA and one UK.
CJ




The lawless one will use amazing workings of Satan that serve THE LIE,
and deceives those who are perishing - because they refused to love the TRUTH and  be saved.
So God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe THE LIE,
and all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
Excerpted from 2 Thessalonians 2


Who shot bin Laden?  Who cares?
November 7, 2014
-   Former Navy SEALS make rival claims.
U.S. Navy Seals that 'killed Osama bin Laden' are both claiming they shot him.
Former SEAL Rob O'Neill (hey that rhymes!) claims to have fired the fatal shot.
But another SEAL said the fatal shot was fired by one of two other men who entered the room before O'Neill.  O'Neill acknowledged shots were fired at bin Laden by at least two others including Matt Bissonnette.
http://reut.rs/1yb5iIe
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29945568
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2...ls-story-behind-bin-laden-shooter
http://video.foxnews.com/v/387983...shot-usama-bin-laden-is-revealed-

I have believed all along this was fabricated to make Obama look good.  It never happened.
Osama died when GW Bush was President.  As for me, this dispute proves I am right.
CJ

Bin Laden raid is 'full of lies'
11 May 2015
Seymour Hersh said the US raid that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was a joint operation between the USA and Pakistani military.  At the heart of Hersh's article is the allegation that Bin Laden was under Pakistani protection with the financial assistance of Saudi Arabia.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32698016

I dont believe the Obama lies - or Hersh's either.
Either bin Laden died at Tora Bora in 2002 - or he is alive in Arabia.
CJ

UK
Bin Laden family killed in crash
August 1, 2015
-  Private jet owned by Bin Laden's family crashes.
The plane crashed into a car auction near Hampshire airport when it overshot the runway as it tried to land and exploded after hitting the ground.

Osama bin Laden's step mother Rajaa Hashim, named among those killed, along with his half sister and her husband.  Other fatality believed to be Jordanian pilot, who has yet to be identified.
The Saudi Ambassador to Britain offers his condolences to the bin Laden family.
Osama bin Laden had at least 20 children and 5 wives.
The aircraft was flying from Milan Italy to Hampshire.  It came down after overshooting the runway and clipping a fence.
The Embraer Phenom 300 was owned by Salem Aviation, a company which is part of the Bin Laden conglomerate based in Jeddah.
http://debka.com/newsupdatepopup/12155
http://www.theage.com.au/world/pr...killing-four-20150801-gipa71.html
http://news.sky.com/story/1528713...ily-members-killed-in-plane-crash
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015...plane-crash-saudi-ambassador-says
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

The Bin Laden group is one of the biggest construction firms in the world

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