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John Macarthur, WOLF, false profit




John Macarthur, wolf

My Encounter with John Macarthur
October 2013  by Bob Johnson
About two years ago and just two weeks prior to Macarthur's Pastors' Conference, I went to Grace Community Church and spoke to Macarthur.  I'd never met him before and I went up on a Sunday night and waited in a long line after his sermon to speak with him.  Because he'd never met me before, I knew that he wouldn't be on guard and I thought that I'd stand a good chance of catching a glimpse of the real Macarthur.  I still remember it like yesterday.  I asked Macarthur the following:

Bob:  Dr. Macarthur, will Al Mohler be speaking at the upcoming Pastors' Conference?

Mac: Yes, he will be.

Bob:  Do you know that he leads 2 NGO's of the UN?

Mac: Al Mohler would have nothing to do with any organization connected to the UN.

Bob: The Southern Baptist Convention is an NGO of the UN with Special Consultative Status.

Mac: The SBC is in no way connected to the UN.  What is the other organization?

Bob: Focus on the Family.  Mohler is its Vice Chairman.

Mac: I know Jim Dobson and he would have nothing to do with the UN.

The next Sunday night I went to Macarthur's sermon again holding evidence in paper form to prove what I had said about Mohler, Focus on the Family, and the SBC the previous Sunday night.  Soon after his sermon ended and as I got up to get in line I noticed several security guards speaking in their mikes and converging around me.  There were at least 6 of them and I wondered if I should I just bolt out or stick it out and I decided to stick it out and see what would happen.  When I met Macarthur he said first loudly, "I know you." And I said that I came to show him proof that he was wrong in what he said  previously.  Then he looked at my 10 or so pages and said each time in a sarcastic, condescending tone, "Oh, I see you are right about that--yes, you are right."  The charade continued for about 5 minutes as the guards had me totally surrounded.  Then the guards asked me, "Are you Bob Johnson?"  And when I replied in the affirmative, the leader told me to leave and never come back or I'd be arrested.  They then escorted me to the sidewalk out in front of the church and when I got on the sidewalk, Macarthur's main bodyguard told me, "You just say one word and you'll spend the night in jail."  It was obvious to me that it was no empty threat.  I then just walked across the street and got in my car.  I called a Christian pastor I know from my car and told him what happened and he said to me, "Bob, you better get out of there before they put a bullet in your head."  What a testimony for a man considered by many to be the greatest preacher in America.  As a side note, I believe that Macarthur stands at the same place after every sermon and so all his conversations are audio and video taped.  I believe Macarthur is also wired for sound.  GCC is a real police state church.  

So now I've seen first hand that Macarthur is a bold liar.
I hope Christians wake up and see the truth about their heroes like Graham and Macarthur.
http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/B...=my-encounter-with-john-macarthur
CJ

Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
1 Corinthians 5:6

SADDLEBACK CHURCH OF RICK WARREN USING ROB BELL TEACHINGS
5/22/11   Today Evangelicalism Is Full Of Leaven
The leading online apologetics and discernment work Apprising Ministries has pointed out that a part of our labor in the Lord is the documenting of the painfully obvious New Downgrade within mainstream evangelicalism; obvious at least for those blessed by God with eyes that see.

I’ve also told you before that the root of growing apostasy roughly begins with the charismatic revival circa 1960 as it later spreads through the Jesus People/Movement in the early 1970′s and out into various mainline denominations as well as into what became the Fuller Theological Seminary School of World Mission.[1] You need to realize that this is the spiritual cesspool from which the new liberalism of the seeker-friendly/sinner-sensitive methodology of letting culture define the church visible would spring.

As Dr. John MacArthur has said:

I’ve said this many times: I can listen to a guy preach—put anybody in front of me—and I’ll tell you what his view of Scripture is by what he says.  If he doesn’t preach out of the Bible, I know what his view of Scripture is, I don’t care what he says.  I don’t care if he wants to die telling me he’s a believer in inerrancy, if he gets up and does not preach the Word of God, that’s his view of Scripture leaking all over the place.  Look, every preacher preaches for impact, for effect, for result.  You’re up there saying what you think is going to get you the best result.

If you think it’s foolishness and fun n’ games and song n’ dance and sermonettes for Christianettes—if you think it’s that kind of stuff—that’s what you’re going to do; … It comes down to this loss of preaching.  And I’ll tell you, how do you know it’s the new liberalism?  Because you can’t stop a seeker-friendly movement, because it’s going to be redefined, it’s going to be redefined, it’s going to be redefined…

You know, Schuller is the architect of this.  Robert Schuller is the absolute father.  The grandfather of the movement, who was a little bit below the radar, was Norman Vincent Peale.  Norman Vincent Peale is a classic liberal.  The primary impact that Norman Vincent Peale has had on the world is through his leading disciple, Robert Schuller, who said to me, “I can sign the confession of my denomination and makes the words mean anything I want them to mean.”  Well, that’s classic neo-orthodoxy—or liberalism (whichever).

So, you’ve got Norman Vincent Peale, who creates this kind of liberal, social gospel; his number one disciple, positive-thinker Robert Schuller; Robert Schuller develops this concept of the church many years ago, where he goes into Orange County and he goes door-to-door, passes out cards, and tells people to write down what they want a church to be, and then he gives them what they ask for.  He said in a speech at N.R.B. many years ago, “If you want to know how to build a church, ask the community, and give them what they want.”  His most famous disciple trained into that model is Bill Hybels, and the second is Rick Warren.  Rick Warren says, himself, that when he left seminary, he drove right to the Crystal Cathedral and was mentored there.

So, there’s a flow going on here.  And where is it going?  It’s going toward the Emerging Church.  That’s why you can have all those people—Rick Warren and Brian McLaren—way out on the edge of the Emergent Church, you can have all those people at the same conference in San Diego all speaking, and, in between, sessions on Yoga.  If you just look at the roots of something—and look where it’s going: if you let the culture define the church, there’s no way to catch up.

So, now you go to Schuller’s church, you wouldn’t find anybody whose hair wasn’t gray, because they had their little niche for that little cultural group, and they go to the grave with them.  And the same is going to happen with the others and the others and the others…  It’s not transcendent.  It’s not trans-cultural.  It’s not even beyond their tiny little chronological zone.  And that’s the problem with it, because if it’s culturally defined, it is its own worst enemy; it’s planned obsolescence.[2]

There’s the rotten root; and as this was spreading its spiritual poison into the bloodline of the church visible for decades, by 2005 mainstream evangelicalism would finally become so spiritually spineless that it began to embrace the warped and toxic teachings of EC leaders e.g. like the Emerging Church rock star pastor Rob Bell. As I’ve brought to your attention before, sadly, in the very heart of the visible church we’ve seen this spiritual cancer metastasize throughout its body spreading the awful influence of sinfully ecumenical neo-liberal cult of the Emergent Church aka the Emerging Church until it’s now mortally wounded and coming under God’s judgment (cf. 1 Peter 4:17).

Keep in mind that the EC has now been upgraded to the Emerging Church 2.0—with its newer, more clearly delineated, postmodern Progressive Christian theology, which these rebels against the final authority of the Word of God will often refer to under their circus “big tent” as Emergence Christianity. So you should know by now that the first line of attack upon the heart of the church visible by such as these who will not adhere to God’s authoritative Word in the Bible was to batter down sola Scriptura, the key pillar of proper Christian spirituality. It’s also beyond question that Rob Bell was on the front lines of this heresy.

From the Southern Baptist flagship Saddleback Church, captained by Purpose Driven Pope Rick Warren, I will now enter into evidence the following from its own website. As I see it this evidence from primary sources goes a long way toward proving beyond a reasonable doubt that what John MacArthur just said above is true, despite what Dr. John Piper may try and have us believe. Consider the following from Kay Warren concerning the definite influence of Robert Schuller upon her husband Rick Warren from the Christianity Astray article A Regular Purpose-Driven Guy:

During his last year in seminary, he and Kay drove west to visit Robert Schuller’s Institute for Church Growth. “We had a very stony ride out to the conference,” she says, because such nontraditional ministry scared her to death. Schuller, though, won them over.

“He had a profound influence on Rick,” Kay says. “We were captivated by his positive appeal to nonbelievers. I never looked back.” (Online source, emphasis mine)

Now we see “flow going on here” at Saddleback Church, one of the most influential congregations in the Southern Baptist Convention, to “the Emerging Church” in the person of Rob Bell. As a matter of fact, two years ago in Saddleback Church Pastors Using Rob Bell Teachings I told you they’d already made that fateful decision. Not really all that surprising considering this August 2009 tweet from Rick Warren to Rob Bell:

@RickWarren: “thenoomaguy Hey Rob, Just wanted to encourage you to ignore critics. If you werent impacting & making a difference, theyd ignore you. rick”[3]

Why Would A Pastor Want To Turn His Flock Toward Those Who Preach A Different Gospel?
However, now it grows even more blatant; under Women’s Home Small Group Resources at Saddleback Bell’s Nooma DVDs are recommended:

As far as the mythology of Rob Bell (cf. 2 Timothy 4:3-4) in these Nooma DVDs I point you to the following by Greg Gilbert, who is “director of research for the president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and an elder at Third Avenue Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky.” Gilbert is also author of the concise, but very helpful, book What Is The Gospel?, which I have, and am pleased to recommend. This section below as it concerns the “‘moralism,’” or even ‘Pelagianism’” of Rob Bell comes from the first part of Gilbert’s series The Scoop’a on NOOMA in the ejournal of 9 Marks:

WHAT’S MISSING; WHAT’S NEEDED

I have said in several places on this site that there is much about the Emergent theological storyline that I find compelling. Who wouldn’t be excited by the idea of God’s people—broken, sinful people accepted by him just as they are—living and working to diffuse God’s grace and love throughout the whole of society? So far as it goes, that’s a great and biblical vision, and there’s a reason it resonates with people. But, in my opinion, where the Emergent church and these videos go wrong is in telling the world that that . . . is . . . the gospel.

It’s not. Good as that storyline might be, it is finally too small and too colorless. For God to lovingly accept us as we are no matter how ashamed we might be of ourselves is nice and all, but it’s a pretty pale gray compared to the Bible’s story of a just and loving God sending his Son to take the punishment of a rebellious people so they can live with and for him forever.

If you want to engage a “new generation” looking for authenticity, honest answers, and a willingness to look unflinchingly at human sin and suffering, that’s the gospel that will do it. Unfortunately, that’s also the gospel that these NOOMA videos, at least so far, seem unwilling to talk about. (Online source)

Really; you mean Saddleback and Rick Warren don’t have any problems exposing their women to these DVDs by Bell when:

the gospel presented in NOOMA misleads lost people about their relationship with God. The Bible could not be clearer that the consequence of sin and rebellion against God is that we are separated from him, our relationship with him is severed, and we are brought under his judgment and condemnation. “Your sins have made a separation between you and your God,” Isaiah says (Is. 59:2). And Paul writes in Romans 1 that the wrath of God is revealed against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men.

These facts—that sin separates human beings from God, and that God judges sin—constitute one of the most important themes in the entire Bible. It explains why everything else was necessary—the sacrifices, the priests, the prophets, and especially Jesus’ death on the cross. It’s why Jesus cried out, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matt. 27:46). He was separated from God so that his redeemed people would not be.

Bell doesn’t say any of that in the NOOMA videos. In fact, he seems to tell lost people exactly the opposite—that they are already in relationship with God and even forgiven of sin, and that the only problem is that they just don’t realize it. (Online source)

Well, now we know that this is exactly what Rob Bell has been teaching all along since he came clean in his latest book Love Wins. Look carefully at the following by Kevin DeYoung from his God Is Still Holy and What You Learned in Sunday School Is Still True: A Review of “Love Wins” where he shares:

I really must say something about the two most grievous errors in the book: Bell’s view of the cross and his view of God. According to Bell, salvation is realizing you’re already saved. We are all forgiven. We are all loved, equally and fully by God who has made peace with everyone. That work is done. Now we are invited to believe that story and live in it (172–73).

Bell is not saying what you think he might be saying. He’s not suggesting faith is the instrumental cause used by the Spirit to join us to Christ so we can share in all his benefits. That would be evangelical theology. Bell is saying God has already forgiven us whether we ask for it or not, whether we repent and believe or not, whether we are born again or not. “Forgiveness is unilateral. God isn’t waiting for us to get it together, to clean up, shape up, get up—God  has already done it” (189)…

Bell categorically rejects any notion of penal substitution. It simply does not work in his system or with his view of God. “Let’s be very clear, then,” Bell states, “we do not need to be rescued from God. God is the one who rescues us from death, sin, and destruction. God is the rescuer” (182). I see no place in Bell’s theology for Christ the curse-bearer (Gal. 3:13), or Christ wounded for our transgressions and crushed by God for our iniquities (Isa. 53:5, 10), no place for the Son of Man who gave his life as a ransom for many (Mark 10:45), no place for the Savior who was made sin for us (2 Cor. 5:21), no place for the sorrowful suffering Servant who drank the bitter cup of God’s wrath for our sake (Mark 14:36). (Online source)

Or how about the below from Bell’s Inferno by John MacArthur where he informs us that:

Bell’s notion of sin seems to be that its main evil consists in the hurt it causes to the sinner rather than the offense it causes to a righteous and almighty God. His concept of “justice” makes the punishment of sin wholly optional. His idea of mercy falsely holds forth a false promise of automatic leniency and a second chance after death to people already inclined to take divine clemency for granted anyway.

Rob Bell’s god is clearly no one to be feared. That all stands in direct and deliberate contradiction to everything Jesus ever taught about sin, righteousness, and judgment.

By thus pitting his own ideas against Jesus’ message, Bell makes it inescapably clear that he “advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ” (cf. 1 Timothy 6:3). He is wrong—seriously wrong—heretically wrong—to question the justice of God and to hold out false hope to unbelievers. He is, as we have seen from the start of this series, a textbook example of the false teacher who secretly introduces destructive heresies (2 Peter 2:1).

That must be said plainly and emphatically. (Online source)

Yet despite all of the above Rick Warren and his mega Saddleback Church still hand over their young and vulnerable sheep to this false prophet. In the Young Adult section of Saddleback’s website we find highly recommended:

In closing this, for now, remember how I told you that Rob Bell was on the front lines of the Emerging Church attack upon the final authority of the Word of God; read it for yourself from the very book recommended so highly by Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church above:

I was in an intense meeting with our church leaders in which we were discussing several passages in the Bible. One of the leaders was sharing her journey in trying to understand what the Bible teaches about the issue at hand and she said something like this: “I’ve spent a great deal of time recently studying this issue. I’ve read what the people on the one side of the issue say, and I’ve read what the people on the other side say. I’ve read the scholars and the theologians and all sorts of others on this subject. But then, in the end, I decided to get back to the Bible and just take it for what it really says.”

Now please understand that this way of thinking is prevalent in a lot of Christian churches,…but this view of the Bible is warped and toxic, to say the least… The assumption is that there is a way to read the Bible that is agenda—and perspective—free…This perspective is claiming that a person can simply read the Bible and do what it says—unaffected by any outside influences… When you hear people say they are just going to tell you what the Bible means, it is not true. They are telling you what they think it means…[4]

This is part of the problem with continually insisting that one of the absolutes of the Christian faith must be a belief that “Scripture alone” is our guide. It sounds nice but it is not true… When people say that all we need is the Bible, it is simply not true.[5]

Such is the sad and deplorable state of much of the mainstream of evangelicalism. So to show you the difference, I now leave you with the words of a man actually sent by God. This is J.C. Ryle from his Standing On The Rock:

On one point of vast importance in the present day, the reader will see that I hold very decided opinions. That point is inspiration. I feel no hesitation in avowing that I believe in the plenary inspiration of every word of the original text of Holy Scripture. I hold not only that the Bible contains the Word of God, but that every jot of it was written, or brought together, by Divine inspiration, and is the Word of God…

I am content to remember that all inspiration is a miraculous operation of the Holy Ghost, and, like every operation of the Holy Ghost, must needs be mysterious. It is an operation of which not forty men in the world have been made the subjects, and the manner of which not one of the forty has described. It stands to reason that the whole question of inspiration, like everything else supernatural, must necessarily contain much that is mysterious, and much that we cannot explain.

- But the difficulties of the “plenary verbal” theory appear to me mere trifles, compared with those which surround the counter theory of “partial inspiration”… Give me the plenary, verbal theory of biblical inspiration with all its difficulties, rather than the doubt. I accept the difficulties and humbly wait for their solution. But while I wait, I am standing on a rock… (Online source)
http://apprising.org/2011/05/22/s...k-warren-using-rob-bell-teachings
CJ

Mark of the Beast

Can you still be redeemed if you take this mark?
McArthur says yes - scripture says NO
JOHN F. MACARTHUR explains why accepting the mark of the beast: 666 wouldn't automatically condemn the person who receives it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cvCkf0V2oU


Revelation 14:9
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
http://5ptsalt.com/2013/10/16/joh...-mark-of-the-beast-still-be-saved


Straight From the Pit of Hell
John Macarthur Teaches that People Who Take the Mark of the Beast can Repent and be Saved
http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-Macarthur--Mark-of-the-Beast.html


Churches and these wolves, false evil pastors of huge churchs, will lead their sheepl to take the mark, promising they can later repent and be forgiven.
THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD SAYS!
John McArthur is a FALSE TEACHER, a WOLF
BornAgain2

http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/B...=my-encounter-with-john-macarthur

My Encounter with John Macarthur
by Bob Johnson on 10/25/13

About two years ago and just two weeks prior to Macarthur's Pastors' Conference, I went to Grace Community Church and spoke to Macarthur.  I'd never met him before and I went up on a Sunday night and waited in a long line after his sermon to speak with him.  Because he'd never met me before, I knew that he wouldn't be on guard and I thought that I'd stand a good chance of catching a glimpse of the real Macarthur.  I still remember it like yesterday.  I asked Macarthur the following:

Bob:  Dr. Macarthur, will Al Mohler be speaking at the upcoming Pastors' Conference?

Mac: Yes, he will be.

Bob:  Do you know that he leads 2 NGO's of the UN?

Mac: Al Mohler would have nothing to do with any organization connected to the UN.

Bob: The Southern Baptist Convention is an NGO of the UN with Special Consultative Status.

Mac: The SBC is in no way connected to the UN.  What is the other organization?

Bob: Focus on the Family.  Mohler is its Vice Chairman.

Mac: I know Jim Dobson and he would have nothing to do with the UN.

The next Sunday night I went to Macarthur's sermon again holding evidence in paper form to prove what I had said about Mohler, Focus on the Family, and the SBC the previous Sunday night.  Soon after his sermon ended and as I got up to get in line I noticed several security guards speaking in their mikes and converging around me.  There were at least 6 of them and I wondered if I should I just bolt out or stick it out and I decided to stick it out and see what would happen.  When I met Macarthur he said first loudly, "I know you." And I said that I came to show him proof that he was wrong in what he said  previously.  Then he looked at my 10 or so pages and said each time in a sarcastic, condescending tone, "Oh, I see you are right about that--yes, you are right."  The charade continued for about 5 minutes as the guards had me totally surrounded.  Then the guards asked me, "Are you Bob Johnson?"  And when I replied in the affirmative, the leader told me to leave and never come back or I'd be arrested.  They then escorted me to the sidewalk out in front of the church and when I got on the sidewalk, Macarthur's main bodyguard told me, "You just say one word and you'll spend the night in jail."  It was obvious to me that it was no empty threat.  I then just walked across the street and got in my car.  I called a Christian pastor I know from my car and told him what happened and he said to me, "Bob, you better get out of there before they put a bullet in your head."  What a testimony for a man considered by many to be the greatest preacher in America.  As a side note, I believe that Macarthur stands at the same place after every sermon and so all his conversations are audio and video taped.  I believe Macarthur is also wired for sound.  GCC is a real police state church.  

So now I've seen first hand that Macarthur is a bold liar.  I hope Christians wake up and see the truth about their heroes like Graham and Macarthur.
CJ

John MacArthur Strange Fire Conference Fallout
Let's Not Devour One Another,  28 October 2013
We're commanded to contend for the faith.  Can we do so without contention?
How do we expose error without dividing the Body?
How do we hold to our convictions while honoring those who differ with us?
http://www.christianpost.com/news...ets-not-devour-one-another-107378


John MacArthur Answers His Critics
November 8, 2013  What was the purpose of such a controversial conference like Strange Fire?
Why did you choose not to invite one of the best of the reformed continuationists to speak at your event and to defend his position?
Wouldn't that have strengthened the cessationist arguments while also showing an earnest desire for unity?
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/com...ur-answers-his-critics-november-8
http://blogs.christianpost.com/ov...carthur-answers-his-critics-18633


Strange Fire Conference is Divisive, Unloving
John MacArthur responded to critics of the Strange Fire conference at his Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, Calif., that many pastors believe is causing dissention among the faithful because he's teaching that the Charismatic movement is leading people astray and dishonors the Holy Spirit.
(TRUTH - MacArthur is leading sheepl astray in grave jeopardy of HELL and damnation!)
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/com...e-is-divisive-unloving-october-21
http://www.christianpost.com/news...rence-is-divisive-unloving-107051

olivetreeviews.org  website belongs to Jan Markel.  I sometimes look at her daily headlines, and listen to her weekly radio, Understanding The Times
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about3576.html
BornAgain2

MacArthur has exposed the Emergent Church and Charismatic Movement through and through - however, he's just merely playing "good cop" in all of this, acting like a friend to those end times watching Christians and Christians who see the leaven and wickedness going on in this modern-day, organized church system.

Beware of false prophets...
CJ

Twisted Evil   The Emergent Church is Evil yes, dangerous, error, heresy.

BUT

dont lump the Charismatic Movement in with it.  Some churches went crazy, overboard into error and even the demonic, like Benny Hinn and others.
But they brought back the Gifts of the Spirit - a good thing.
The remnant will use these Gifts in the Last Days - in which we now live.

Charismatics brought back true worship.  Watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKJa0V5oMg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpoHrIneEjk

Smile
CJ

In listening to John Macarthur Nov 17 I found I agreed with everything I heard him say.
I suggest you read his book Strange Fire, praying FIRST for the Lords Wisdom and Discernment
.
Today it is so difficult to pull the weeds from the gardens.

He is RIGHT that the job of the Holy Spirit is to point to Jesus Christ the Lord, the Holy Lamb of GOD, not to Himself.
We are not to address the Holy Spirit or sing to Him.

The Holy Spirit is a Person and does NOT come in pieces.  You do not pray for more of the Spirit.
You yield more of YOU to Him.  Make Jesus Christ the LORD of your whole life.

I have heard Macarthur says things I DONT agree with!  The bible is clear there is NO forgiveness for taking the mark of the beast of Revelation 13.  But among preachers I like very much, they preach a pre-trib rapture I DO NOT believe.  And so go the weeds to pull in every garden.  We are all imperfect.  How false is Macarthur?  I cant say.  Throw him in the blender with all the others.  We are all imperfect.
BornAgain2

Exclamation

John MacArthur equates 33 degree Freemason to be a Christian

http://ephesians511blog.net/2014/...gree-freemason-to-be-a-christian/
BornAgain2

John MacArthur tied to NWO promoting 2014 Bilderberg Steering Commitee member
5/28/14  The 6oth Bilderberg meeting May 29 through June 1, 2014 in Copenhagen, Denmark. This is a yearly event and Bilderberg is touted as one of the more popular three big New World Order (NWO) organizations next to the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. There are other groups but this is a major New World Order event.

We just discovered that John MacArthur is partnered with Arthur Brooks with the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and that AEI is heavily represented at tomorrow’s Bilderberg meeting with AEI “Resident Fellow” Richard Perle being on the Bilderberg “Steering Committee”. Not only that but we also discovered Richard Perle “hopes” for a New World Order.
http://ephesians511blog.net/2014/...lderberg-steering-commitee-member
BornAgain2

Hey MacArthur, why don't you tell these parents to train up their children in biblical principles to begin with!

Proverbs 22:6  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/201...1.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592#
6/13/14
Pastor Says Parents Should 'Alienate' Gay Kids, 'Turn Them Over To Satan'

A California pastor apparently thinks telling parents of gay children to "alienate" them and "turn them overt to Satan" is sound advice.

John MacArthur of the Grace Community Church in the San Fernando Valley responded to a question from a listener on his "Grace to You" show who asked how to react to an adult child coming out.

"If that adult child professes Christ, claims to be a Christian, then that becomes an issue for confrontation of the sternest and strongest kind because that falls under Matthew 18," which discusses dealing with sin in the church. "If they profess to be a Christian, you have to alienate them, you have to separate them. You can't condone that; it's inconsistent with the profession of Christ. So, you isolate them; you don't have a meal with them; you separate yourself from them. You turn them over to Satan, as it were as scripture says."

MacArthur does clarify that his advice is for parents of Christians. Parents of non-believers, he says, should bring the Gospel "compassionately, directly, confrontationally" to "expose that sin and all other sins, and call that person to salvation and repentance."

Anabaptist author Benjamin Corey of the religious blog Patheos challenged MacArthur's statements as hypocritical, since he targeted sexual "sinners" while disregarding others, like the greedy, idolators and drunks.

Wrote Corey:

   I’m just glad that I worship Jesus –- not MacArthur (or even Paul himself!). Jesus is the one who religious conservatives hated because instead of shunning, he had meals with people. The drunks. The hookers. The swindlers. You know, the kind of people we’re supposed to shun. This is precisely why we are to make Jesus -- and nothing else -- the center of our faith and practice. Because it is through Jesus we find that sharing a meal, not alienation, is what love looks like.

MacArthur's remarks might not come as a surprise to those familiar with his sermons. Back in 2012, MacArthur condemned the Democratic party for supporting what he refers to as the "homosexual revolution." This "revolution" came about, he claimed, because God abandoned the nation and "unleashed on the world the horror of AIDS." At the time, he defended this position as "love speech."
CJ

If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They must be put to death, their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13
http://biblehub.com/leviticus/20-13.htm
CJ

John MacArthur IS in error
August 23, 2015
-  Prophet Confronts John MacArthur with Message from God that MacArthur is in error.
Its a fact, John MacArthur IS in gross error!  He is a FALSE profit!
Man Claims God Sent Him to Declare Displeasure With Grace Community Church Leader's Cessationist Doctrine.  Security ushered him out as he told the church to repent.
http://www.christianpost.com/news...-error-before-congregation-143308

Episode on youtube
https://youtu.be/U8H4OG0ZGWI

John MacArthur is Satan's servant
BornAgain2

False "Unlimited" Submission to Government(MacArthur)
8/28/15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rro-RHlbg0

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