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Joel Osteen, con man

   Joel Osteen is a grinning WOLF

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 7:15

Is Joel Osteen REALLY a Christian or is he a lost con-artist?

Joel Osteen Wins Pirate Christian Radio Worst Easter Sermon Award
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The difference b/w he and Rick Warren is that while Rick Warren is very subtle and cunning with his words, Osteen is more of a "what you see is what you get".

A smiley guy, but...

2Pe 2:17  These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
2Pe 2:18  For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
2Pe 2:19  While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
CJ

Mormons are Christians, says Joel Osteen
Joel Osteen, Shame on You!
Joel Osteen firmly declared to the world that Mormonism is Christian.   ITS NOT!


27 october 2011  Ed Decker
I have just watched your remarks regarding Mitt Romney and his Mormon faith, recorded on video.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=1465166

Shame on you!  You have given the enemies of the Cross a great victory. Either through sheer ignorance of the Word or your apparent desire to never offend anyone, regardless of their sins, you have handed the Mormons a huge PR gift. You have insulted and denigrated the many former Mormons like me who have spent their lives bringing Mormons the truth and to the Real Jesus, who died for their sins on Calvary. You have defined our ministries and my life’s work as worthless.

You emphatically state: The Mormons are Christian.  Are you completely ignorant of the fact that the Mormons have taught as a foundational doctrine that the creeds of all the Christian churches are abominations in the Mormons’ god’s sight?  

What kind of research or study did you undertake before you made this foolish and unbiblical utterance? Did you check with Pastor Jeffress, a godly, Christian pastor? Or with Mitt Romney, a man working out his own godhood?  Or did you just toss this out from your own lack of knowledge or as some sort of sweet sound bite?

Are you totally unaware that they have taught in their sacred temples for over a century that you and all other Christian pastors are corrupt hirelings of Satan, that you and your church are part of the great and abominable church and the whore of all the earth?  

Did you not know that Mormonism teaches a restorationist theology, stating that the gates of hell did prevail against the Church and teaching that all power and authority were lost until God chose Joseph Smith to be his holy prophet to restore all things and lead this last dispensation of time?

Did you not know that the LDS church teaches they have the only true church, the only true prophet, the only true priesthood, and the only true scripture? That all others are false? That there is NO personal salvation outside their church?

Didn’t you know that the god of Mormonism is an exalted man-god who once lived on another planet in some other galaxy? That he  earned his godhood through his good works and now lives on a planet near the great star Kolob with a harem of his many goddesses, making spirit babies to come to this earth to earn [their own] godhoods?

You say you “heard Romney say that Jesus is the Son of God and is his Savior -- and that is one of the "core issues."
You announced to the world, with a broad smile, that the Mormon Church and Romney are Christian and that the differences between Mormonism and orthodox Christianity are simply the same as the differences between Baptists and other denominations. How could you, as the pastor of one of our largest churches, say that so glibly?

Don’t you know that Mitt Romney is a man who is earning his own godhood and plans to people his own planet? That Romney is a Mormon High Priest in the Melchizedek priesthood?  That the Mormons have usurped that holy priesthood as their own?

To pronounce them Christians, do you then agree with the Mormon doctrine that the Mormon Jesus is the brother of Lucifer? That he became ‘savior’ by a vote of a council of gods? That He is not the Word become flesh, not God come in the flesh, but was conceived through an act of sex by the Mormon god and one of his own daughters, Mary?

To have publicly accepted their Christianity, you must apparently concur that Jesus did not die as ransom for our sins on the Cross, but suffered for us in the garden, sweating great drops of blood, placing our personal salvation as conditional upon our works and our obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Mormon gospel. That Jesus’ death on Calvary merely gives us all resurrection so that we may be judged for our works and obedience.

Why do you think that the Mormons have over 50,000 missionaries out, primarily targeting Christians weak in the faith? If they are Christians, why do they target other Christians?
It is because they have success in seducing people who have not been taught biblical truth and discernment  by pastors more eager to fill pews and sell books than guard their people from the ravening wolves who circle the flocks.

I am sorry, Pastor Osteen, but you have disgraced the Cross of Christ and bowed to some vile, politically correct dogma and publicly pronounced these doctrines of demons to be Christian.
These are not the quaint differences you alleged in your book tour interview. These are lies from the pit of hell. There are irreconcilable differences between orthodox Christianity and these antichrist teachings and doctrines.

The true Christian Church can never accept the Mormons as Christians until they confess these lies as sins and repent from them publicly.   If a Mormon can attend your church and be openly accepted as a Christian brother or sister without being called to the Cross and repentance, then you are teaching a false faith and need to repent and ask forgiveness from the Church and Pastor Jeffress, the pastor you have just defamed in your foolish utterances.

Ed Decker, Saints Alive in Jesus
www.saintsalive.com
ed@saintsalive.com
http://www.saintsalive.com/resour...r-pastor-joel-osteen-shame-on-you

More by Ed Decker here, he speaks on Mormonism and Glenn Beck
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about2041.html

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CJ

Does Joel Osteen Not Know, or Does He Not Care?
By now, it is clear that Joel Osteen’s carelessness is deliberate and calculated
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The more I read of Joel Osteen or see him on TV, the more the FOOL he appears.

Osteen wrongly claimed Mormonism is just another form of Christianity.
Osteen said, “I see faith in America at an all-time high.”
His comments came just as a major research project detailed a significant loss of vitality in America’s Christian congregations.
That loss of vitality can be traced, among other things, to a loss of theological and biblical conviction.
Joel, of course, is proof positive that you can build a crowd without building a church.
He is not inclined to deal in much theological conviction.

In the interview, he distilled his message in these words: “Part of our core message is that seasons change, and when you believe,
if you don’t get bitter, and you don’t get discouraged, you may not change overnight, but you can get peace.”
http://www.albertmohler.com/2011/...teen-not-know-or-does-he-not-care
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BornAgain2

JOEL OSTEEN CELEBRATES what 'god' is doing with OPRAH WINFREY
Despite sagging funding Apprising Ministries continues covering the falling away of the largely pretending to be Protestant evangelical community. Here I draw to your attention that once again Word Faith heretic Joel Osteen is in the news.

Through the promotion of people like Seeker Driven Prophet-Führer Steven Furtick, who calls Osteen a great man of God, the “blab it and grab it” prosperity preacher continues to gain ground even in the mainstream of the church visible.

However, as I pointed out in The Joel Osteen Church Network, if Joel Osteen is a great man of God, then Mormon founder Joseph Smith was actually a Christian prophet. And after-all, Osteen’s already said Mitt Romney And Mormons Are Christians.

Next we’ll probably hear Osteen pronounce Oprah Winfrey, a known proponent and practitioner of the New Spirituality aka New Age, a Christian as well. This brings me to Joel Osteen Welcomes Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry to Lakewood Church where Christian Post contributor Allison Summers tells us:

Television mogul Oprah Winfrey and stage and movie producer Tyler Perry created a stir with a surprise appearance at Pastor Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, Sunday for an 11 a.m. service.

“Awesome to have you!” said Osteen, announcing their presence and welcoming the celebrities to the church. “We’re so honored to have you both here, and we just celebrate and pray for you guys with what God is doing in your lives.” (Online source)

Though Winfrey professes to be a Christian, as I showed you in Oprah Winfrey Speaking As A Christian, her testimony and teaching simply doesn’t bear that out. We need to be praying for her salvation because she has no relationship with God; she is currently an outspoken enemy of the Cross of Christ (cf. Philippians 3:1Cool.

Summers then informs us that:
Winfrey was in the area to interview Osteen as part of her new series “Oprah’s Next Chapter,” which is set to premiere in January on her channel, the Oprah Winfrey Network.
She reportedly joined Osteen and his wife, Victoria Osteen, for lunch at their home and discussed topics with them such as power, marriage and faith, according to The Houston Chronicle. (Online source)

In such a setting Osteen usually manages to open his mouth to exchange feet. Summers says he:
has been known to spark controversy in the Christian community on his views about certain fundamental beliefs of the church, such as homosexuality. (Online source)

Controversy is rather an over-statement; apostatizing evanjellyfish is pretty much anything goes. From monitoring Internet intel along its younger sectors, the deviant pro-homosexual lobby’s got them about to cave on homosexuality; the same as it once did the dead mainline denominations now being ripped apart by it.
You need to understand that Joel Osteen’s wishy-washy non-views are actually becoming an evangelical norm.
[VIDEO INSIDE]
http://apprising.org/2011/11/07/a...-god-is-doing-with-oprah-winfrey/


Dr. Oz, Joel Osteen to Discuss Groundbreaking Prayer, Health Research    Nov. 16, 2011
Popular televangelist and charismatic preacher Joel Osteen will go on “The Dr. Oz Show” Thursday to talk about the healing power of prayer, including groundbreaking research on the practice conducted by the show's host.
The episode will offer an in-depth analysis on how prayer works and if it has the potential to lead to medical miracles, according to Product Placement News.

Other guests will be invited to share personal stories of how their faith has helped them or loved ones overcome a serious medical condition.
Dr. Oz will also reveal research he participated in at hospitals a number of years ago that examine the power of faith and prayer.

Osteen often promotes the connection between spiritual and physical health in his sermons, and is expected to provide a perspective on his own experiences on the Emmy Award-winning show.
Victoria Osteen, the wife of the Houston Lakewood Church pastor, will also share with audience members strategies for believing in themselves and using the power of prayer to get through the rough times.

It is estimated that more than 100 countries around the world broadcast Joel Osteen’s sermons. His New York Times bestselling books have sold millions of copies.
“The Dr. Oz Show” has audiences in more than 112 countries and has won many awards, including the Emmy for Best Informative Talk Show in 2011.
http://www.christianpost.com/news...prayer-and-health-research-62032/
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BornAgain2

Oprah Winfrey Comeback Show 'Next Chapter' Will Feature Joel Osteen
11/21/11  Oprah Winfrey will be returning to TV screens across the world once again with a new show “Oprah’s Next Chapter,” which will be broadcast on her cable TV channel OWN, and will feature megachurch pastor Joel Osteen as one of its first guests.

Oprah is returning in front of the camera less than a year since ending “The Oprah Winfrey Show” of 25 years in May this year.
The two-hour episode will debut in January and will feature Winfrey meeting with Aerosmith frontman and American Idol judge Steven Tyler at his family home in New Hampshire.
http://www.christianpost.com/author/cp-news-briefs
BornAgain2

Is Joel Osteen REALLY a Christian or is he a lost con-artist?
27 Feb 2012
 By Bryan Delinger
Is your best life NOW as a Christian? Or will your life in eternity be better? What group of people on earth are truly having their "best life now"?
In today's sermon we will read from Osteen's infamous book, "Your Best Life Now". You will see that his basic principles and ideas do NOT line up with scripture, and that in fact he OFTEN misquotes the Bible to prove his points.
This man is a genuine FALSE PROPHET, and you will hear the proof in this sermon!
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=226121433191


Revelation 20:7-15
http://biblehub.com/nasb/revelation/20.htm

Revelation 21:9-27
http://biblehub.com/nasb/revelation/21.htm
BornAgain2

Joel Osteen: God ‘Absolutely’ Accepts Homosexuals
10/4/13

In a recent interview with the Huffington Post, megachurch speaker and author Joel Osteen advised that he believes God accepts homosexuals, and that he doesn’t want to “tell everybody what they’re doing wrong.”

Osteen sat down this week with host Josh Zepps to promote his new book Break Out: 5 Keys to Go Beyond Your Barriers and Live an Extraordinary Life. The two discussed a variety of issues, from Pope Francis to fighting poverty to whether unbelievers can go to Heaven.

“You say here… ‘It doesn’t matter who likes you or doesn’t like you; all that matters is that God likes you. He accepts you; He approves of you,” Zepps stated, reading from Osteen’s book. “Is that true for gay men or true for homosexuals?”

“Absolutely,” Osteen replied. “I believe that God’s breathed His life into every person. We’re all on a journey. Nobody’s perfect.”

“The Bible says that sin is pride, sin is selfish ambition,” he continued. “We tend to pick on certain things, but I believe every person is made in the image of God, and you’ve got to accept them as they are as they’re on their journey.”

Osteen then explained his belief that Christians should exemplify kindness to the world, rather than “pushing people down.”

“Again, the Scripture teaches the way people are going to know His disciples is for our love for one another, and so, I’m not preaching hate [or] pushing people down,” he stated. “I’m not here to tell everybody what they’re doing wrong.”

Osteen was later asked if he believes unbelievers can go to Heaven. He replied that he believes Scripture states that Christ is the way, but that he is not the judge of who is allowed to enter.

“As a Christian pastor, the only thing in Scripture that I see is that a relationship with Jesus will get you to Heaven,” he replied. “Now, do you have to be a certain denomination or something like that? I don’t know that, but I do know that I’m not the judge of who gets to go Heaven. What I see in the Scripture is that you have to have a relationship with Jesus. That’s why He came
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“Someone who believes in the monkey god is not going to Heaven then,” Zepps commented, referencing the 1.2 Indians in the world, many of whom practice polytheism.

I don’t claim to understand who’s all going to Heaven,” Osteen replied. “I just believe and I teach in all my messages that when you have a relationship with Christ–that’s the reason why He came, to have a relationship with him that is the guarantee from Heaven.”

“People don’t all believe like me; they see it bigger,” he added. “I believe God’s mercy is very big. I thank God I’m not the judge of who gets to come. Only He can, but that’s the way I see it.”

While some have applauded Osteen for the way in which he responded to Zepps’ questions, others have expressed deep concern. Dr. Michael Brown, host of the Line of Fire radio broadcast, and author of the forthcoming book Hyper-Grace, told Christian News Network that Osteen “offers affirmation for sinners–of all kinds–rather than a call for transformation.”

“If he meant that God accepts us the way we are and that’s it–no repentance or changed life in Jesus required, then I categorically disagree,” he stated. “Paul says plainly in 2 Timothy 2:19, ‘Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.’”

Brown said that Osteen missed an opportunity to encourage those who struggle with homosexual temptations that Christ came to free men from the power of sin.

“If Joel Osteen had made himself clear and given a full, biblical message, which, sadly, he often fails to do, this could have given hope to those struggling with homosexuality, as well as brought the fear of the Lord to those who believe homosexual practice and Christianity are compatible,” he stated. “t’s so important that we open the door wide to all those identify as LGBT, telling them Jesus died for them just as He died for the rest of the world and there is new life and new hope in Him.”

Brown said that he is concerned that there are those like Osteen who preach a humanistic Gospel, which “starts with me and tells me what God can do to please me,” instead of a biblical Gospel, which “starts with God and tells me what I can do to please Him.”

“While I appreciate Joel Osteen bringing a personable, smiling face to the TV screen in the name of Jesus,  I’m deeply grieved by the man-centered, cross-avoiding message that he preaches, and because of his great influence, he is greatly accountable,” he stated. “We should pray for God to get hold of him in a radical way and raise him up to be a preacher of righteousness.”


http://christiannews.net/2013/10/...d-absolutely-accepts-homosexuals/
BornAgain2

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/03/j...t_is_history_if_he_cant_solve_it/
11/3/13
Joel Osteen’s gay problem: The religious right is history if he can’t solve it  

Evangelicals need to tone down their views to stay relevant. The slick Houston pastor is showing them how it's done


Joel Osteen has a problem, one that all Evangelicals in the U.S. are facing. The anti-gay position of mainstream Christianity has fallen out of favor with the public. Every reputable poll currently shows uncontested majority support for gay marriage. And the cultural shift happened more quickly than the churches can follow.

The Huffington Post’s Josh Zepps recently asked Osteen about this passage from his new book, “Break Out: 5 Keys to Go Beyond Your Barrier and Live an Extraordinary Life”: “It doesn’t matter who likes you or doesn’t like you, all that matters is that God likes you. He accepts you, he approves of you.”

Zepps wanted to know if this included gay folks. “Absolutely,” Osteen offered without missing a beat. Evangelicals are notoriously tricky on the subject. It’s common theology to claim that God accepts absolutely everyone because being gay is viewed as an affliction, not an identity. What makes Osteen’s statement so unusual is his claim that God “approves” of gay folks.

The Texas megachurch pastor has always been relatively soft on the issue compared to his colleagues, notably the Evangelical behemoth Southern Baptist Convention. In the past, Osteen at the very least claimed homosexuality was unacceptable. He told  Fox News’ Chris Wallace in 2012, “I believe that Scripture says that being gay is a sin, but every time I say that, Chris, I get people saying, ‘You’re a gay hater.’”

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BornAgain2

http://beforeitsnews.com/religion...now-board-game-video-2458110.html
11/8/13
Laodicean Con Man Joel Osteen Releases ‘Your Best Life Now’ Board Game (VIDEO)

“And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:14-16

Joel Osteen Wants You To Play His Board Game

Joel Osteen preaches “another gospel”. A gospel designed to delight the hearer and tickle their ears. He is to bible preaching what Coca Cola and cotton candy are to a balanced diet – deadly. His “words of wisdom” have more in common with eastern mysticism than they do with the gospel of Jesus Christ. He wants to to imagine all the carnal goodies your flesh desires, then speak affirming words to “bring them to you”.

“God has already done everything He’s going to do. The ball is now in your court. If you want success, if you want wisdom, if you want to be prosperous and healthy, you’re going to have to do more than meditate and believe; you must boldly declare words of faith and victory over yourself and your family” From Your Best Life Now, p.132

“If you are believing for your child to find God, go help somebody else’s child to develop a relationship with God. If you’re struggling financially, go out and help somebody who has less than you have … f you want to reap financial blessings, you must sow financial seeds in the lives of others … If you want to see healing and restoration come to your life, go out and help somebody else get well” From Your Best Life Now, pp. 224, 250-51

Osteen says he offers of ‘message of hope’ but its a false hope that runs counter to the message of biblical Christianity. The bible says that God uses sickness, suffering, disease and loss of goods to refine us and strengthen us. Did you know that? Osteen promises you a better tomorrow here on earth. God does not. God is concerned with your life in eternity more than you brief snippet of a life here and now. Osteen tries in vain to give you your best life now, God says you will get your best life in Heaven.

In the New Testament, we are called to a life of suffering for the Lord Jesus Christ. How many times has Joel every preached on that? Next to none. And why? Because suffering doesn’t pay, telling people they are going to get it in the neck if they stand for Jesus Christ won’t fill the seats in a basketball arean of a church.

This is what the bible says about the Christian life:

“For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:” 1 Peter 2:21

“Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;” Hebrews 11:25

“Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.” 1 Peter 4:16

“Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.” Matthew 16:24

As you can see, the perverted theology of Joel Osteen has nothing to do with New Testament Christianity. Osteen preaches a carnal, worldly, fleshly, syrupy false gospel that in no way will save your soul or prepare you to stand at the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ in that day.
BornAgain2

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/20...argeted-by-thieves/9001394581433/
3/11/14
Joel Osteen's megachurch targeted by thieves

Thieves stole about $600,000 in cash and checks from Pastor Joel Osteen's Houston church.


March. 11 (UPI) -- Lakewood, the Houston megachurch led by popular televangelist Pastor Joel Osteen, said Monday that thieves had stolen about $200,000 in cash and $400,000 in checks from the church safe.

"We were heartbroken to learn today that funds were stolen from the church over the weekend," Lakewood officials said in a letter to members. They added that the stolen money was limited to funds received during church services on Saturday and Sunday.

The church also said some of the checks and envelopes contained credit card information, and urged weekend attendees to "pay close attention" to their accounts and report any suspicious activity.

Lakewood boasts more than 40,000 members. Pastor Joel Osteen and his wife, Victoria, lead televised services from the church that are broadcast to millions of people around the world every week.

Church rep Donald Iloff, Jr. told the Houston Chronicle that "Lakewood Church is working in conjunction with the Houston Police Department to investigate this matter."

"We do not want to compromise the investigation by commenting at this time,” he said.
BornAgain2

Rolling Eyes

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice...offered-in-texas-megachurch-theft
$25,000 reward offered in Texas megachurch theft
3/22/14

HOUSTON (AP) — A $25,000 reward is being offered for clues to solving a $600,000 theft from the Houston megachurch led by Joel Osteen.

A Crime Stoppers statement Friday announced the reward in the Lakewood Church burglary case. Houston police say $200,000 in cash and $400,000 in checks were taken from a church safe between 2:30 p.m. Sunday, March 9, and 8:30 a.m. Monday, March 10.

No arrests have been made.

Lakewood Church said the money and checks taken, as well as some envelopes with credit card information, had been collected that weekend. Church officials say there was no data breach and the stolen funds are insured. Credit card information was in donation envelopes.

More than 40,000 people attend weekly services led by Osteen, whose televised sermons reach nearly 100 countries.
BornAgain2

http://www.chron.com/news/houston...pe-Francis-at-Vatican-5533805.php
6/6/14
Osteen meets with Pope Francis at Vatican

On the same day his wife took 300 schoolchildren to the Bronx Zoo, Joel Osteen, the pastor of Houston's Lakewood Church, was meeting Thursday with Pope Francis at the Vatican.

Osteen said Friday it was a great honor to represent the pastors of America in the meeting with the pontiff, whom he described as warm, personable and full of joy.

"I like the fact that this pope is trying to make the church larger, not smaller," Osteen said. "He's not pushing people out but making the church more inclusive. That resonated with me."

The unofficial meeting also included Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah; former U.S. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne; Tim Timmons, a pastor and author based in Newport Beach, Calif.; and Gayle D. Beebe, president of Westmont College in Santa Barbara, Calif., according to the Deseret News of Salt Lake City.

FYI - Mike Lee is a MORMON.

"We had very little time with him," Osteen said. "We were going to have more time, but a cardinal died that morning."

Pope Francis asked the group to pray for him and to pray for peace in the Middle East, Osteen said.

As part of a visit to promote interfaith understanding and ecumenical prayer, the meeting with Pope Francis was arranged by The International Foundation, a private nonprofit organization, Lee told the Deseret News.

Earlier in the week, the 15-member group met with Vatican staff members, toured the Vatican and attended the Convocation of Renewal at Olympic Stadium in Rome, according to a statement from Westmont College.

More than 50,000 charismatic Roman Catholics also attended the convocation, during which the pope knelt on the ground to pray, the Deseret News reported.

The day before the meeting with Pope Francis, Osteen said, he attended Mass in St. Peter's Square with 100,000 people.

"Afterward, (the pope) spent an hour and a half going through the crowd with the Popemobile, greeting people," he said. "It was very heartwarming to see him caring for people."

Osteen said he met the Vatican's secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, and had dinner with another cardinal in a stone house on the Vatican grounds. The small structure with magnificently painted ceilings served as the pope's home 600 years ago, he said.

Osteen is scheduled to speak Saturday evening at Yankee Stadium as part of his "America's Night of Hope" tour.

His flight from Rome arrived in New York Friday morning.
BornAgain2

EXPOSED – Washington DC’s “Christian CULT Mafia” arranges Joel Osteen/Pope visit

http://ephesians511blog.net/2014/...a-arranges-joel-osteenpope-visit/
BornAgain2

http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/19...lar-pastor-doesnt-know-the-bible/
9/19/14
America’s Most Popular Pastor Doesn’t Know The Bible

Mega-church pastor Joel Osteen may lead the largest Protestant church in the United States, but a recent Facebook post shows he might need to go back to Sunday school.

A Monday post to his verified Facebook page, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”

As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares. (RELATED: Joel Osteen Needs More Security Than A Third World Dictator)

There’s just one problem: According to the Bible, Moses was dead before Joshua asked God to stop the setting of the sun, and long before the three Hebrew youths were burned in the furnace.

The Old Testament Book of Joshua explains that God appointed Joshua as Moses’s successor after Moses’s death (the first sentence literally begins, “After the death of Moses…”), who led the Israelites into battle against the Amorites, during which he commanded the sun and the moon not to move. “So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the people had revenge upon their enemies,” (Joshua 10:13).

The story of the “three holy children,” as the Hebrew youths are sometimes known, is told in the Old Testament Book of Daniel. According to the passage, the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, who reigned around the 6th century B.C. (long, long after the projected time of Moses), ordered his people to worship a large golden idol, “and whoever does not fall down and worship shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace,” (Daniel 3:6). The three Hebrew youths refused to worship the idol and were thrown into the furnace, but were not burned.

In many Christian traditions this passage is particularly important because it is understood to prefigure Christ — when the king asked whether the three were burned, one of his counselors replied “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God,” (Daniel 3:25).

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