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FALSE * Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Steve Quayle, Oprah Winfrey




The Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Steve Quayle report
This is a report about Alex Jones and Steve Quayle and Quayle's boss, HAWK. (according to an email to me)
Most of this is from the Email sent to me, but I have edited it and inserted my comments.  Research what you wish.
I am sorry if this is a mess.  I pieced together a lot of information from several sources.

Like Glenn Beck, Alex, Quayle and Hawk are part of the New World Order.  
They ARE NOT Christians as they claim.
Part of the Quayle family of ops is
Douglas J. Hagmann of the Northeast Intelligence Network disinformation squad.  (Source - Ken Walch)

ALL these guys are CIA / NWO operatives.
All these people are acting as arms of the NWO "Octopus".
Their purpose is to foster rebellion, civil war, so martial law can be justified.
Glenn Beck has been trying to incite civil war
on his show, but what Glenn et al DONT tell you is that in your revolutions, Christians get persecuted

Obama just may use the phony excuse of a 'flu emergency' to declare martial law - which his declaration did, but short of pulling the trigger.
Some things sound too far out to believe.  Yet I do not discount it.
WHY are these Luciferians so convincing?  Because they LOVE Lucifer / satan.

The European Collective
 By Christopher Story
Christopher Story is a British Investigative Reporter who has specialized in Global Intelligence and Finance for 40 years. He was an occasional adviser to Margaret Thatcher.
He has been fooled, and reported some information from sources seeking to discredit him.  Who hasnt?  I have been also!
Some U.S.  Presidents were part of the illuminati and Hitler's Germany.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFA4B1rCKvg

Ken Welch
http://www.ken-welch.com
http://www.worldreports.org/news

I didnt find these links helpful - but they were in email I was sent
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=158581
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=158585


The NWO have practically taken over the internet.
Many 'christian' forums are actually CIA websites.  
Mr. Story refers to the "Bush-Clinton-Obama criminal cabal" - which are actually Luciferians.  Worship of Lucifer - Satan - the devil - is their religion via a sect of Freemasonry that is tied to Nazi Germany.
The Queen of England is part of this - and her family line is related by blood to the Bush family, the Cheney family - and yes even to Obama.  Obama is part of Luciferians also.  Some people call these 'lizards' and claim they can shape shift.  Frankly I doubt that part.

Bush 41 reference to  a thousand points of lights originated in this Lucferian cult.
This Lucferian cult, or cabal, has been using the U.S.A. as a platform for massive financial crimes including the September 11, 2001 attacks on America.
AND the Oklahoma bomging of the Murrah building to cover-up the money-laundering of their Children's Defense Fund.  Vincent Foster secretly turned over evidence to William Sessions, the head of the FBI at that time, who put the original evidence that Foster gave him in the Murrah Building for safe-keeping.  Clinton fired Sessions and Vincent Foster turned-up dead a day or so later. So the Oklahoma Building and evidence was destroyed along with documents in regard to Nazi's that were allowed to come to the U.S. and infiltrate the intelligence deparment of the U.S. government, after the war.

Prescott Bush, father of President Bush 41 was a big banker financially involved with Hitler during the war.
Lucferians set things up to control both sides (Hegelian dialectic, Psy Ops, disinformation), designed to confuse people who are trying to understand things.
They attack people who they are secretly in league with, to create fear in the sheepl unless they fight in a civil war.

The CIA created and trained Al-Quida in Afghanistan, etc.
The Terrorists that the sheepl have to fear the most are those who are make-up this criminal cabal, Luciferians, within our nation, which includes the CIA.
Mr. Story is brilliant, and has spent an entire lifetime researching things. He indicates that what the U.S. is facing here at this time, is a form of Fascism, socialism.  Christians would call this the Beast system - or AntiChrist system. Prophet Duduman maintained the pope is the beast.

There is a lot of background information in a book titled Committee of 300.
Mr. Story said that Christopher Dodd is Stalin's grandson.
Both Adolph Hitler and Bill Clinton were illegitimate sons of a Rothschild.  Is that what the Merovingian bloodline really is?  The bloodline of Satan, the nephilim?  Demons.

Lindsey Williams NWO timeline
Williams says we have 2 years left.  Another Deception.
There is NO TIME LEFT!
The NWO is infiltrating our churches, in their war against Christianity.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=141920.msg859420






WHY ATTACK IRAN?
Its a WAR for OIL.  
The oil pipeline is to go from Afganistan thru Iran and Iraq to the Mediterranean Sea.
http://www.ken-welch.com

Oprah Winfrey also FALSE
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http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about970.html



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tribulation2008

Pastor CJ.

I visit your site daily to browse news.
Personally, I don't care if someone is part of the NWO as long as their information is correct.  We need correct information to discern, whether it be from a non christian or not.

I would not put a whole lot of stock in what Ken Welch says.  Does he speak about Jesus or provide scripture?  He speaks a lot of nonsense, in my opinion.  He has yet to bear the fruit Alex, Quayle or Hawk has.  If they are NWO, so be it.  If they are, why are they shining so much light on the darkness?

It will take more than these guys to incite a revolution.  When the lazy Americans see their wallet decrease and their family taken away, then they will wake up.   Forced vaccinations and death may do the trick.  
The dangerous folks are the pastors in the pulpits selling pre trib rapture.  They are the ones sending people to ruin by their false teachings.  

I was given grace to repent, received the Spirit of Truth, and my search has lead me to listen to Alex, Quayle and Hawk.  I also listen to Stewart Best, Larry Taylor, Augusto Perez, Nathan Leal, Rick Wiles, David Wilkerson.  I browse the info, not their interpretation.  

Peace to you.
Chad
CJ

I guess the trick is to know WHICH info is right - and which is spew.   Cool

Do we need the vaccine?
Or is it dangerous?

I aint gonna get it.

The NWO controls both the right and the left.
They have pastors in pulpits.

I find very few people have any discernment at all.

Perhaps 'YOU' can discern but most cant.
CJ

Steve Quayle

'HAWK' ranted on and on against my report like an insane person Nov 5th.
Wise men dont respond to a tiny little blog.
That says a lot about his mental state.   Cool
HAWK and Steve Quayle are not Christians.  I have had reports from others about how cruel and hateful he has been to them.

Some guy named Lloyd who knows Steve Quayle
outed him as a govt shill and operative.
So Im sure hawk is also an operative.

Both like Glenn Beck told to lie to the people mislead us, keep us confused

A tale of steve quayle
Mr. Lloyd tells how Quayle’s “ministry” is more concerned with the accumulation of personal wealth, rather than the saving of souls.
BornAgain2

Or look at William Cooper - I don't know if this man was a born again Christian(I'm thinking he may have converted at the end of his life - remember he pretty much debunked everything in his "Behold a Pale Horse"), but look what the NWO did to him months after he predicted 9/11 would happen.

There have been a couple of others in this so-called "truth" movement that have mysteriously died as well, including the Canadian reporter who broke the Project Blue Beam thing.

The NWO wants to start a revolution/civil unrest in this country - I'm not surprised that they've created this fake left/right paradigm, as well as put out these fake "truth" people like that "Zeitgest" filmmaker, who ended up putting Luciferian doctrines in it.

And I'm not surprised too that they've also snuck fake pastors behind the pulpit as well. I tell you - there sure are quite a few 'fairly new' pastors in numerous churches nowdays, some of whom openly praise the likes of Rick Warren.
CJ

Shalom BA!  You  are right.
As to project bluebeam, some say that just occurred  -  in Norway the other day.
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about156.html

And 0bama was "right on top of it" according to a man in Norway.   Chance?
I imagine some are claiming its the Christmas star heralding 0bama as messiah.  BARF!
BornAgain2

I always wonder if Obama and Maitreya are one and the same - there were unconfirmed reports in 1988 that Obama made an appearance in Kenya, it was also that same year when Maitreya made a PUBLIC appearance in June of that year(which made the MSM).

Yes - I found that report very odd what you posted - no, I don't think Obama is this false Messiah, but again as above...
BornAgain2

I always wonder if Obama and Maitreya are one and the same - there were unconfirmed reports in 1988 that Obama made an appearance in Kenya, it was also that same year when Maitreya made a PUBLIC appearance in June of that year(which made the MSM).

Yes - I found that report very odd what you posted - no, I don't think Obama is this false Messiah, but again as above...
         --------------------------------------

Thought I would bring this up too in this thread - speaking of this Left/Right paradigm, and throw in this "truth" movement in the mix...

Beware of Sen James Inhofe(R - OK) as well - for awhile I thought he was being a true patriot by protesting this global warming/Copenhagen Satanic agendas...until I saw a few moments ago this man also supported alot of Bush and Cheney's globalist agendas. Look at his double minded speak with the war in Iraq...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/...nted-wmd-excuse-for-iraq-invasion

Maybe he's just a PARTISAN politician? I don't know - but other sites I've read said how he's a born again Christian who uses bible scripture quite a bit.
You know them by their fruits...
CJ

Alex Jones

Here is a tidbit from a blog.  Thot I'd share it.
I like Alex and I listen to him.
He has stated that he is a christian.  I am not going to argue.
His job is not preaching.

-----------------------

Joe Hoyle (3 Feb 2010)
"Reply To Mike Curtiss:  Alex Jones"

         
   I've personally listened to Alex Jones on the Internet for 10 or 15 years now.
   That would be to only listen.
   Jones has never been one that I've publicly promoted one way or another, and that includes financially as well.
   
   You say that Jones isn't an honest broker of Christian information.
   I would say that he not much of any kind of broker of any Christian information.
   His web sites are not Christian web sites, and they should never be contrued as such.
   He's a broker of New World Order information only, and that's actually what his web sites reflects.
   
   You say that he isn't a Christian while he says that he is.
   I personally would say that he probably is, but that it's a weak OSAS type Christianity that is watered down, and that he is as perfect a type of Laodicean one that can be came across.
   Meaning that Alex is as spiritually blind as can be, and doesn't even know it, and refuses to listen to the ones who can set him straight, and I have listened to many Christian callers to his program who have tried.
    To that end, he maybe could be considered to be an non Christian.
   And maybe he is an agent provocateur: and he can also be a blowhard, as well as rude and obnoxious, and generally hard to listen to for three straight hours, which I also don't do..
   
   But the bottom line is, when I Google search for a particular NWO subject matter, and the first source leads to a web site of his, then I'm going to use his web sites for the source.
   Because if there is one thing that Alex Jones does well, it is to broker and put out hard news sources for most anything NWO.
   And that's my own personal bottom line there.
   
   By the way, Alex is most certainly an anti Zionist, but I'm not sure how anti Jewish that he's supposed to be.
   I mean, his Wife is a Jewish woman, and both sides of her family is also, to the best of my knowledge, which means that his own children are Jewish.
   So I'm not sure that he actively supports a society without Jews.
BornAgain2

Re: Alex Jones

I'm VERY weary of AJ myself, however, I have to completely agree with this assessment - infowars has alot of up-to-date news articles et al on the NWO, and Alex has a number of gifted writers who know what they're talking about.

One of my big gripes with Rapture Ready and these other "end times" MBs that are full of error is that while they ban anything with Alex Jones, at the same time, they welcome in open arms anything FOX News, Sean Hannity, et al report...news sources that pretty much WORK for the NWO.
CJ

Sad

Those who believe there is a rapture are already deceived

Sad
BornAgain2

Matthew 24, Mark 13, 2nd The 2, Luke 17 and 21, and the scripture about the wheat and the tares in Matthew have to be read VERY carefully.

ALL of these events they lay out happen BEFORE the rapture.

Anyhow - speaking of Alex, he himself suggested that CI Scofield had ties to the Rothchilds and other globalists. The NWO will do anything to put the church to sleep.
CJ

Glenn Beck

Feb 3 Glenn Beck portrayed 0bama as th LIAR he is,
and it angered me so intensely - at 0bama - I had to turn TV OFF.
CJ

Glenn Beck and 911

Glenn Beck
What Are the Dangers of 9/11 Truthers?

Now Beck is bad mouthing those of us who KNOW 911 was an inside job.
There are several videos and more info on the link at the bottom of this post.

February 15th, 2010
Your Debra Medina attack really got me asking why it was a top priority for you to “expose” her “9/11 truther” connections.

You even asked:
   “Do you have advisors that advise you or people that are around you that are 9/11 Truthers? … Would you, if you found out that there were, would you disavow them like the president should have but I mean, he escorted them out in the middle of the night.” Benedict Arnold Glenn Beck .
It’s enough to get me wondering if these truthers are a “National Security Threat” or what hideous crimes they may have committed against the U.S. of America.

Glenn, you seem pretty on top of this, besides “thought crimes”, what are the crimes or “threats posed” by “9/11 truthers” to the country or yourself?

It’s a good question… huh, Glenn?
I decided to do a Google for “9/11 truther crimes” and guess what? It gave me answers like “war crimes”, “9/11 crimes” and “crimes against humanity”.
All crimes “truthers” are asking questions “Of” … but NO crimes committed “By” them…

Then I had this crazy thought, you know Glenn…. I’m thinking “this Glenn Beck guy can’t be a ‘Thought-Nazi’, can he? … you know… just controlling the reasoning of his viewers for political or monetary gain.”
Well gosh, Glenn, what should we think? Help us out here… First, have you explained what a “9/11 truther”  is … you know… your definition of a “truther”…

Yes, I see you have on your popular Fox News show where you are able to tell people how… or, I mean what to think… I mean what you think…
Here it is – from THE Glenn Beck Show on Sept. 3, 2009: (the intro is classic)

   BECK (that’s you): If you don’t know what a 9/11 Truther is, let me quickly tell you about them. Here’s a statement from a 9/11 Truther group; after the attacks they demanded: “A call for immediate inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur.”

Glenn, if evidence suggests an inquiry… I don’t have a problem with an inquiry… do you?… Really, I mean if evidence suggests… would Jefferson?

   Beck: They also have a list of questions on their site that, I guess, is supposed to peak your interest in the conspiracy theory that the Bush administration let the attacks happen on purpose.

Is “conspiracy theory” a buzz term to trigger bias in the malleable minds of your audience? And your “guess is” the reason the questions are there… is to “peak” interest in “conspiracy”, like a Fox News show would? I mean, that’s your thinking?

   BECK: I too had a lot of questions shortly after 9/11, but none of them had anything to do with the “alleged” Flight 77 that “allegedly” blew up at the Pentagon. Nor was I asking if steel can melt or anything like that.

So Glenn, what were your insightful question? Why do you say “alleged”? Is it that you don’t believe Flight 77 “blew up” or that it was a “flight”?

       * “How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington, D.C., for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA’s radar or the even superior radar possessed by the U.S. military?”
       * “Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?”
       * “How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?”
       * “Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?”

   The Truthers have also questioned things like: “Was Flight 93 actually shot down by the military as a cover-up?”

That last one there, Glenn, about military cover-up… I’m not finding that quote anywhere… You wouldn’t be just tossing that in for arguments sake? You know like pace, pace, pace … LEAD.

And… though, I had not read these prior to you suggesting… the questions asked do look, frankly, pretty reasonable (aside from your psyop) and…

   * Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?
   * Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?
   * Why hasn’t a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?
   * Why haven’t authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?
   * Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?
   * What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?
   * Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?
   * Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?

Glenn Beck, even though I never took the time to read all those questions before , I think you might think that if those are legitimate questions then they are questions that can be asked … (did I get that right Glenn?)

   BECK: If you believed our own government was responsible (as opposed high-level government officials?) for the 9/11 attacks, right there on the 9/11 Truther statement, you could proudly sign your name along with such luminaries as:

       * No. 2: Ed Asner, actor, activist
       * No. 31: Janeane Garofalo, actress, Air America radio
       * No. 51: Mimi Kennedy, actress, progressive activist
       * No. 62: Cynthia McKinney, 5-term congresswoman from Georgia

   And coming in at No. 46: Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights

OK Glenn, naturally you have reached your own understanding of what the 9/11 Truther statement said… and it’s your show, your boss, so your spin is your (or your boss’s) prerogative along with the progressive selection of signers you offer…

I did happen to go to the source (yes, I know… few do) and noticed you skipped many of the other signers like:

   * Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst Sec Housing in the first Bush administration
   * Edward L Peck, former US Ambassador, former Deputy Task Force Terrorism
   * Eric H May, former Army military intelligence officer and media essayist
   * Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
   * J Michael Springmann, former Foreign Service Officer, US Depart of State
   * John McCarthy, former Special Forces, president Veterans Equal Rights
   * Melvin Goodman, Center International Policy, CIA, professor War College
   * Morton Goulder, Deputy Sec Intelligence Warning Nixon, Ford, Carter
   * Philip J Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania

And many more including 1st responders and victim’s family members… check it out at 911truth.org.

   BECK: So on top of all the radical, progressive and communist nonsense coming from Obama’s green jobs “czar” Van Jones, you can now add “thinks the Bush administration blew up the World Trade Centers and covered it up.”

   Do you know what people are saying about me on the Internet — that I’m a conspiracy theorist? If you actually believed this stuff — forget green jobs — wouldn’t you want to find out who was trying to kill innocent Americans? Wouldn’t that be a top priority?

OH MY Glenn, People questioning (with “real” boldness) the completeness of the official 9/11 Report (same Gov that deny using blackwater) are as bad or worse than Marxists and Communists… I did not know that… and we can thank you, Glenn, for that understanding… truly.

BUT WAIT… did I understand people are also calling you a “conspiracy theorist”? Is that it? You are debunking because people are calling you names?

Back to those crazy truthers… They also have this on their site:

   As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:

      1. An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
      2. Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
      3. Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
      4. The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.

Looks like it is a top priority for some but Glenn…
I’m still trying to understand the risk, threat or danger posed by this “9/11 Truther” group. Clearly, Glenn, you are alarmed.

Why is that? The name calling you receive and being lumped in with other “conspiracy theorists”, no doubt, is traumatic for you, but beyond that, is there more to your fear of “truthers”?
Again, we have the good fortune of you, Glenn Beck, producing a wildly popular show that tells people what and how to think and of course what not to think…
http://www.prisonplanet.com/glenn...-the-dangers-of-911-truthers.html
CJ

GLENN BECK now FOR global warming after denials

Glenn Beck now FOR global warming after denials
This man is a psycho!  DO NOT FOLLOW HIM!!!  Even Satan tells a lot of truth, its the 1% that damns.
February 22, 2010


While polls show more people drifting away from acceptance of "global warming," the newest superstar among conservatives – Glenn Beck – is embracing it.
"You'd be an idiot not to notice the temperature change," he says. He also thinks it could be caused by man's activity.
At home, he's going green by using energy-saving products.
"I'm willing to do anything but use the CFLs," he says of compact fluorescent light bulbs. "I put them in once and couldn't stand the way they lit up the room."

The kinder, gentler, greener and warmer side of Beck, known as a firebrand conservative, came to light in an interview in USA Weekend.
Let them know what you really think. Get "Global Warming Is A Hoax" Magnetic/Easy-Off Adhesive Bumper Sticker
Beck also has lots of friends on the other side of the political spectrum, he reveals. He calls George Clooney "a good, honest man." Beck says the two of them had an extended conversation about the genocide in Darfur.

"We came to an immediate, completely wholehearted agreement about the situation," Beck says. "That is, to put aside the politics and give troops what they need to protect people over there. He's a good, honest man who believes passionately about doing something about it."
Beck's personal publicist, Matt Hiltzik, is a Democratic power player who helped get Hillary Rodham Clinton elected to the U.S. Senate, says the magazine report.

Beck also explains how he chose Mormonism as his religion
He was raised Catholic and wasn't practicing any faith when he met his current wife, Tania, says the report. When she insisted that a church needed to be a part of their family's life, they began church shopping.

"We tried 'em all," Beck says. "Unitarian, Episcopalian, Baptist, even a synagogue. We ended up with the Church of Latter-day Saints because I took my daughters from my first marriage there, and they said, 'Dad, this place makes us feel warm and welcome inside. Can we come back?'"

Beck also reveals he's no fan of Ronald Reagan whom he blames for driving up the deficits.
"Republicans sold the American people out," Beck says. "I've always said I was a Reagan-style conservative. But I don't think Reagan was a real Republican. He just maintained some shared values."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125949
http://www.prisonplanet.com/anoin...w-believes-in-global-warming.html
CJ

Does Glenn Beck really believe in global warming?

Does Glenn Beck really believe in global warming?
Shocked   It makes me sick that so many conservatives are unquestioningly following Beck - or anyone else.
MAN-CAUSED CLIMATE CHANGE IS a PROVEN HOAX!!

'Is this satire? I really want to know!'
February 26, 2010
That's just one of many questions bloggers and Glenn Beck fans are asking about a Feb. 21 interview story in a leading national Sunday-newspaper magazine that claims the newest superstar among conservatives "believes in global warming."
"You'd be an idiot not to notice the temperature change," Beck said, according to USA Weekend.

Writer Dennis McCafferty reported Beck also thinks global warming could be caused partly by man's activity. At home, he's going green by using energy-saving products, according to the report.
On his top-rated nationally syndicated morning radio show and Fox News Channel television program Beck has been a frequent critic of scientists and advocates such as Al Gore who contend man is causing catastrophic changes in the Earth's climate. Many Beck supporters say his record of opposition to global warming alarmism should speak for itself.

In response to some suggestions that a layer of pollution be released into the atmosphere to cool the earth and counteract global warming, Beck said in a 2007 segment on his show, "Welcome to Crazy Town, USA."
"I believe something is happening. I'm not sticking my head in the sand here. Global warming probably is having ... global climate change is real. It probably is natural," Beck said. He railed against Al Gore's proposed solutions to offset the purported effects global warming.
"A lot of people say the planet is doomed, and global warming is here to stay," Beck said. "I don't know. There's bound to be a solution to this. I think we just need to start looking outside the box."

In yet another 2007 segment, Beck gave a preview of his book, "An Inconvenient Book." He specifically referenced Chapter 1, titled, "Global Warming: Storming and Conforming."
"I wrote this chapter basically as kryptonite for you to use against your Gore-worshipping psycho friends," he said.

Just two days after the USA Weekend story ran, Beck equated proponents of global warming with conspiracy theorists who intentionally deceive Americans.
"We know they're capable of continuing the charade on global warming even though the consensus is currently imploding, there is no consensus," he said. The scientists themselves are saying that. The science is bogus. It is falling apart. … We're still having our politicians tell us, 'We're not going to be able to leave a planet for our kids if we don't act now on cap and trade."
He continued, "They're willing to bankrupt the entire world for a lie."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126207
CJ

Glenn Beck Raped And Murdered A Young Girl In 1990

Glenn Beck Raped And Murdered A Young Girl In 1990
When I saw that headline, I entered it in a search engine.
I came up with a lot of hoax sites.
SNOPES is a hoax site.  Dont think its valid - its not.
Bottom line,  I have no idea.

What do I suspect?
I suspect Beck may have killed or raped someone, and it was covered up.
He was bought to do this nonsense on TV to trap conservatives.
I cant believe how dumb people are to follow him, and NOT see thru him - not even WANT to see!
Satan tells SOME truth - for the purpose of trapping you into hell.

Glenn Beck's legal action
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10382416-71.html

http://politicalirony.com/2009/09...nn-beck-murder-the-american-media

This vulgar link indicates he and Bill O'Reilly are homosexuals.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/...And_Murdered_A_Young_Girl_In_1990

Many homos are married - look at Barak Barry Soetero Obama.  He is a Sodomite Muslim

GLENN BECK support same sex marriage!
Anyone who does NOT OPENLY call this SIN and denounce it, favors it.
I bet he has tried it.  YUK!
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about970.html

Mormonism is NOT christian - its satanism.
http://revlu.com/mormon.htm
BornAgain2

CJ, any chance you can add Mike Rivero to the subject header?

Rivero is one of the so-called "truther journalists" along with Alex, Rense, Watt, just to name a few, and not only is he anti-Israel, but recently he DENIED stuff like CHEMTRAILS existed. Guess what - recently, I read that Rivero was a FORMER NASA employee for some 20 years(!). Isn't it NASA that started all this chemtrails/HAARP nonsense? And he's also cozied Obama a good one - recently he claimed that Obama DOES have a Hawaii citizenship(Go figure!).

I'll post some links later, but this guy is a government plant, without a doubt.

Romans 1:18-32 - God says he would give these wicked people up to their own lusts and uncleanness.
Thank you Jesus for revealing everything to us through your Word.
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Well, it looks like Hawk is retiring
(or running to his underground bunker, take your pick).
Just reading the first couple of paras of his letter alone, this man is full of [pardon my French].

Rom 1:21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

1 Cor 3:20  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain

Eph 5:6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Col 2:8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

1 Tim 6:20  O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Tit 1:10  For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

C'Est Finis? Hawk is Done with Radio
Sept. 2, 2010      Hawk
I will begin this Hawk Talon with the words I have used many times on my Radio Show over the years
THERE IS POWER IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS !

Approximately 5 years ago after a direct encounter with the Arch Angel Michael, where he gave me portal or window to see and hear in the Angelic Realm, and where he recruited me to work on behalf of Lord Jesus to strike blows against his enemies the luciferians and to warn those with eyes to see and ears to hear of what is to come and how to prepare for it, I also received an anointing which changed my life dramatically.

Within a few weeks after this miraculous event I was contacted by phone out of the blue by Steve Quayle , who told me that the Lord had said for him to put me on his Q-Files Radio Broadcast one day per week. This was simply incredible as Steve and I have never met physically , even to this day, but had only  traded correspondence via e-mail and had spoken perhaps one or two times by phone. Nevertheless, after a discussion of Steve's word from the Lord and my encounter with Arch Angel Michael and his recruitment of me into Lord Jesus' service I gladly climbed up on that big wall of the Watchman that Steve Quayle had been ever vigilant upon since the early 1990's .

The Lord had filled me with such a burning passion and desire to stand for him against his enemies, to confront them by name and to expose their evil deeds on air while also sounding the Warning to listeners and subsequently to readers of these written Hawk Talons. Nothing could hold me back as I was working for Lord Jesus and as long as I remained obedient to his will I felt his love and protection. In spite of 9 attempts upon my life in one year , continued surveillance near my home, and in places of my work , (where one of the attempts ended in a standoff where a tall middle eastern man who I had seen take off his leather jacket and then a pull a pistol out and hide it underneath as he walked around a business location eyeing me, and then upon knowing that I made him and his purpose and that I sequestered myself behind cover and then him not knowing what surprise I might have for him, he walked out the door) , I never lost my fire to serve the Lord on air,  even though most nights over the last 5 years I have sat up with long arms and pistols ready to protect my family and myself. For a time there was an unseen but known of,  protective over watch by some of the Lord Jesus' servants in the Military who are Mighty Men , and to them my hat has always been tipped and thanks given nightly for all of their efforts on behalf of Lord Jesus and America, but I always have known, that my real protection ultimately came from the Lord himself and that my obedience to him was the key.

Last year , as most of my listeners and readers know, I was hit by an energy type weapon that left me with the right side of my body almost completely numb, and many other physical effects of a stroke. That was # 10 and even in that , the Lord Jesus delivered me alive and preserved my ability to talk , think, type, and to still walk and after a short interval I came back upon the Radio Show and have continued til this day.

Within the last few weeks however it seems a renewed interest perhaps in my demise by evil men, who can't stand their secret deeds discussed in public or their plans for evil revealed, has been revealed. For those listeners to the broadcast who have heard of the highly unusual 911 calls that I didn't make on my phone , but drew armed Police officers to my door either just before the broadcast or on the one occasion where I upon seeing caller ID that the local Police were calling on the phone instrument that just minutes before was not even working ,that I answered on air and then had to leave the air to answer the doorbell to see the Policeman........well, you get the picture on the pattern that has been developing. Last week , my land line phone instrument was totally knocked by some electromagentic pulse or beam while I was in mid sentence on air. This also resulted in a sharp pain in the back of my head near the neck . After these events began weeks ago, I sought the Lord Jesus in prayer and on the weekend prior to my last show, it was as if the Lord had removed the strong fire to act as a Watchman from me. A lifting of the mantle so to speak........or in a sense a removal by the Lord of this Watchman from the Wall .....not out of the fight completely, but a stand down. I asked the Lord why , and I got the message of Proverbs 27:12 regarding the Prudent Man from him . In my spirit I knew that the Lord was giving me time of respite but also time to prepare for my family's welfare against what has seemingly already begun, a chance to make provisions of safety and to plan for either standing pat or to move to a place of sanctuary. I will be obedient to his will, as he also has impressed upon me that ........America and much of the world is out of time so to speak and is about to be judged.  I would pray that you would heed this last warning from me.

ALBERT PIKE'S WW III.......IE. THE GOG MAGOG WAR OF EZEKIEL 38 & 39 HAS ALREADY ACTUALLY BEGUN

It is no accident that oil spills happened in the Gulf of Mexico and huge toxic corexit laden oil and methane plumes are still miles long and flowing in several place in the gulf and also in the loop current up into the Atlantic ocean.

It is no accident that some WEATHER X equipment of an enemy has been continually spitting out tropical storms from the coast of Africa toward the Gulf and the East coast.
It is no accident that fires in Russia have consumed so much grain and forest and cost them so much money while keeping them busy.

It is no accident that China is having record flooding nor that one of its major oil pipelines exploded........keeping them busy and costing them alot of money too. Pakistan also has had massive flooding and like China has been left with a diaspora of evacuees in tent cities where food and medical treatment is very scarce to non-existent.

Coincidental that 3 potential enemies of the U.S. and of Israel as described by Ezekiel's prophecy from the Lord are being kept busy and distracted during the precise time that Israel was expected to attack Iran who has sworn to annihilate them and is in possession of nuclear weapons already and building more. Israel will have to go against Iran soon and in spite of attempts by a certain Joker Tut to string them out on the time line til Iran is fully capable, perhaps in some secret deal with Russians and luciferian illuminati masters involving timing for war to begin so that Lucifer can overlay the body of the anti-Christ , the Peacemaker, in 2012 as all of the evidence from Tom Horn's and David Flynn's research has shown as the likely beginning of the Great Tribulation. Albert Pike's WW III prediction for the return of Lucifer then matches up directly with Daniel, Mathew 24, and Revelations.

Recently, I told you on air that Iranians fired upon a U.S. Naval vessel which was ordered not to return fire but to turn and run . I was cut off when discussing Syria, Iranian war planners, and Assad's late night red-dot incident ............now we hear of a top GRU spy based at the Russian Naval port facilities of Latakia, Syria having a "swimming accident" and also a British spy ending up in a duffel bag and then defamed by his own shadow men in MI6 as a cover story not worthy of what the British papers say was in fact a heroic defender who had broken codes that saved lives of Nato troops in Afghanistan.

Well, as well , as the Gog Magog war we are seeing massive doses of the luciferian "ORDO AB CHAO" and the beginnings of BLOOD SACRIFICE.

Apparently, in the midst of all this and the implosion of America economically, socially, and politically.............purges of Christians and Constitutionalist Intel , Military, and Law Enforcement are taking place in a demand for blind loyalty not to God or country but to a usurper . Allegedly the count is so far year to date ....386 suits taken to the cleaners.......enough some say to make old Karpov wet work comparisons by allied Intel agencies looking at what America is now doing.

Steve Q told of his source last week saying  that after Labor Day the Red list in America was going to be worked on one way or the other with specific emphasis on Radio and TV hosts , as well as bloggers and web site owners.

Of course, in this type of climate, we could expect another Manchurian Candidate to pop up and lo and behold he did . Rumors of a trigger word uttered in a "non-sequitur fashion" by an alleged national TV personality yesterday morning are being spoken.    That once again the Manchurian presence is in Montgomery County Maryland..........where as you recall ole Chief Moose went on air to say to those snipers back then.........."the words you are longing to hear, you are stuck like a duck in a noose" , which subsequently perhaps insured that certain snipers were caught napping in their car at a rest stop with no incident. HMMMM ...they always say. Was Mr. Lee and his greenie eugenics manifesto just a crazy fluke or did a white rabbit die for his mother's pregnancy test? I'd bet the friends of Roland Carnaby would know who ordered his clock to be wound to act as a distraction from other events, give further impetus for gun control legislation, and of course to give air time to his eugenics message which though soundly trashed on air by TV newscasters....nevertheless is getting its full measure of ad impressions onto already quasi MK minds of Americans drinking the fluoridated water.

I could go on and on and include possibilities as well of massive earth changes already upon us whether natural or assisted and of potential; extinction type events from certain quadrants of space now blacked out by those Governmental Agencies who look to the stars.

Well, here are some things I expect .

EXPECT ISRAEL TO ATTACK IRAN BEFORE THANKSGIVING 2010
LOL!  DIDNT HAPPEN

& THEN EXPECT THE U.S. TO GET HIT BY NUKES FROM
RUSSIA AND OTHERS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ATTACK BEGINS. FULL MARTIAL LAW, DRAFTS, AND CIVIL WAR IN AMERICA WILL BE FOUGHT IN A COUNTRY WITH MANY CITIES AND MILITARY BASES DESTROYED AND IRRADIATED. IN AMERICA.

EXPECT COLLAPSE OF THE MARKETS AND A BANK HOLIDAY INSIDE THE U.S. AT ABOUT THIS SAME TIME IF NOT BEFORE.

EXPECT ANYWHERE FROM 1 TO 3 BILLION PEOPLE TO DIE WORLD WIDE BY FALL 2011 AND THEN WATCH FOR THE PEACE MAKER TO DO SIGNS AND WONDERS ....ALREADY THE CHURCH IS LARGELY APOSTATE AND FALLING AWAY.

EXPECT THE ONGOING WAR IN SPACE BETWEEN ULTRA BLACK U.S. MILITARY FACTIONS (EVIDENCED BY CRASH OF A TR3-B PERHAPS NAVAL ORIENTED BY FRESNO THAT ALSO MIGHT HAVE BEEN HEARD ON HF IF ANY HAMS STILL LISTENED) TO CONTINUE AND HEAT UP AND ALSO EXPECT THAT "UFO ALIENS" OR INTER-DIMENSIONAL BEINGS AS WELL AS LONG WALKERS AND MOST LIKELY THE ANNUNAKI THEMSELVES TO BE SEEN IN NUMBERS BY LATE 2011 OR 2012.

EXPECT MASSIVE FOOD SHORTAGES WORLD WIDE AND EVEN WHERE SURPLUS EXISTS THAT MOST WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PURCHASE THEM.
EXPECT GOLD AND SILVER TO GO ON A ROCKET RIDE AND BE HARD TO FIND IN THE PHYSICAL FORM.

EXPECT TO BE COLD , HUNGRY, SICK, AND ON THE RUN FROM HELL HOUND TROOPERS UNLESS PROVISIONS ARE MADE BY YOU SOON.
SO, REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND SEEK LORD JESUS. PUT ON THE FULL ARMOR OF GOD AND PREPARE TO STAND FOR HIM.

There is power in the blood of Jesus. Please heed my warning above.
C'EST FINIS?    .....OUI. AT LEAST UNTIL LORD JESUS CALLS ME TO ANOTHER TASK OR PURPOSE.
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.a...st/100902.Hawk.done.on.radio.html
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While I credit the Prison Planet message forum for providing alot of very good info that MSM outlets don't dare touch, at the same time, when it comes to Christianity, almost the entire MB is pure evil toward them.
Almost every time Christian doctrine et al is discussed in their religious forum, the believers will get attacked.
Ditto when the subject of the RCC/Vatican/Jesuits get discussed. The believers get treated very badly when they expose the RCC system.
For the most part, most(but not all) of the mods there are anti-Christian, and don't realize that our nation's founding fathers were masons.
CJ

When I say  LIVE HOLY, LIVE a PURE LIFE, I mean stay away from unwholesome books, movies, video games.
Get VERY close to the Lord.  PRAY for wisdom and discernment.  Ask the Lord how YOU should prepare for what is coming.
Even ask him BEFORE you go anywhere for any reason - even church.  We live in a critically serious day!
I have warned for 10 years.  I have seen what is at our door.  DO NOT trust your interpretation of end times.  It may be WRONG.
Dont trust your church or pastor!  Deception is rampant everywhere - including church!

If you are Satan and want to control everyone on earth including pastors, what do you do?  You make evil look good!
You control both sides, the christians and the wicked.  I think some call this the Hegelian Dialectic.

You put pure Evil in power in the whitehouse to enrage 'the good' - Christians, conservatives, and patriots.
Then you put your evil puppet Glenn Beck on the other side, saying things that 'the good' desparately want to hear.
When satan tempted Jesus, he did it with the scriptures - with Truth.

Glenn Beck says many true things 'the good' know and long to hear.
He has developed quite a following.  Is he running for president - or antichrist?
Beck described the deadly attack on kids in Norway as a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth.
Who sends their kids to a political camp?  Nazis!

In ZionsCRY I said these were Nazi kids, anti-Israel like Norway.  They hate Israel and carried signs to Boycott Israel.
PROOF!   Norway give terror chief Yassir Arafat the Nobel Peace Prize!

The wicked 'left, bad' main media critized Beck for comparing the two, but Beck is right!  Control both sides!
Beck is Mormon, which is satanism, and has sold his soul to satan, so dont let Beck saying true things fool you.
Jesus didnt let satan quoting God's word fool Him!

Ann Coulter wrote an article - New York Times reader kills dozens in Norway -
in response to many calling the killer 'christian.'  
He's not in any way whatsoever christian, but this lie is repeated often.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=326641
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Glenn Beck Affiliation Leads to Calls for Boycott of Christian TV's TBN
8/23/11  Liveprayer.com, an interactive Christian website with over 2.4 million subscribers, is calling for a boycott of Christian TV network TBN, according to a press release.
Bill Keller, the leader of the site, issued the call after prominent Christian leaders such as Pastor John Hagee and David Barton expressed their support for Glenn Beck’s “restoring courage” campaign on the network.

“It is absolutely ridiculous for a supposed Christian TV Network, that purports to be propagating the gospel, like TBN, with major Christian figures like John Hagee and David Barton, to be supporting and advocating for a member of a satanic cult,” said Keller to The Christian Post.

Glenn Beck, a professed Mormon, frequently identifies himself with other religious people such as Christians, feeling they all have similar values and can work together on “common interests.”
However, to believers like Keller, this is deceitful behavior since he believes Mormonism is a satanic cult or a counterfeit form of Christianity, and that true believers should not align themselves with these types of faiths.

“It is sad to see the largest Christian TV network and several supposed Christian leaders become modern day Judas’ by giving credibility to the proud member of a satanic cult who is exploiting the love Christians have for the Jewish people and the land of Israel,” said Keller in the press release. “The Bible says that we are not to be bound together with unbelievers. It asks what fellowship the light has with darkness.”
http://www.christianpost.com/news...oycott-of-christian-tvs-tbn-54317
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Stolen Blessings: The LDS Connection
August 30, 2011  by Jack Kinsella
www.omegaletter.com
www.olivetreeviews.org

Israel was beautiful.  Israel always is.  But this trip to Israel was different than any other I've been on -- and "different" does not always mean the same thing as "good." If you love Glenn Beck and believe that he is both a good Christian and an honest man, perhaps today's Omega Letter (OL) isn't for you.  I am going to be as charitable as possible, under the circumstances, but I have to call it as I see it.
Today's review is primarily theological -- later we will discuss the political elements of the tour and how our presence was received in Israel.  There was a lot of really good stuff -- but first things first.

We must begin at the beginning, inside a cloud of deliberate deception.  Glenn Beck said that he had investigated the tour companies involved thoroughly, and recommended Voyager Travel as the one that he knew best.  

So we also checked out Voyager Travel at their Web site.  I didn't do a very good job, as it turned out.  As you can see from the link above, Voyager Travel is represented as a secular tour company with tours to Norway, England, Alaska, Denmark, and oh, by the way, a special Restoring Courage event in Israel by Glenn Beck.   It seemed ok.

I personally never expected the tour to be "religious" -- there were far too many different Christian denominations and other religious faiths among us, including a number of Jews, atheists or agnostics who came specifically to attend the Glenn Beck events and demonstrate their political support for the State of Israel.

During one of the few times that I had access to the Internet while on the tour, I had reason to Google Voyager Travel, seeking information about our itinerary.  

I don't know how I missed it from home -- (maybe the excitement of the trip?) but I didn't Google it before signing up -- I went directly to the URL recommended by Beck.
Had I Googled first, I might have notice that directly below the Voyager site was a mirror site of  LDS Travel -- identical in every respect to Voyager Travel, except that LDS Travel makes it clear that it is a Latter Days Saints Church operation.

The Voyager site is scrubbed clean of any reference to LDS -- although the two sites were clearly the same.  So, instead of signing up with a secular touring company, we were inadvertently contributing financial support to the LDS church.
In other words, we were contributing (to whatever degree,) to the advancement of Mormon LDS doctrine and missionary work.

It soon became clear that the event was a Mormon religious tour carefully disguised as a "Christian" tour.  To maintain that fiction, the tour planners engaged a "Christian" guide service -- which meant in this case that it was led by a Greek Orthodox Catholic guide.

George was a terrific guy to be around and an excellent tour guide -- if one went to Israel to tour sites important to the Greek Orthodox Church -- or those dedicated to Mary.  When it came to Mary, George informed us, the Bible was wrong.
In Mark 15:40 and Mark 16:1 where it says that Mary was the mother of James the less, Joses, and Salome, George told us, "This is not true."  George insisted that Mary was ever virgin and Jesus did not have any half-brothers or sisters.  

Sites dedicated to Mary were high on George's list; although we missed many sites listed in the itinerary to accommodate Glenn Beck's constantly-changing schedule, we didn't miss any of the "Mary" sites, like the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth, the Grotto, or the Wedding Chapel in Cana.

I say that to illustrate the religious nature of the "Christian" tour set up by Voyager Travel, which was supposed to be "non-denominational with a Christian perspective."  That should have tipped us off -- to non-Christians, Christianity is determined by church affiliation, not doctrine.

Christians know that Christianity is a matter of doctrine, not church affiliation.  One can be a member of a church and not be a Christian, or not be a member of any church, in some instances, because they are Christian.
We also noticed very early on that our bus had about a half-dozen overtly Mormon members, and probably another half-dozen who kept it to themselves.  

But whenever a discussion erupted that questioned LDS participation, whether or not the LDS was actually running things, or whether all the tour leaders were Mormons, one of our Mormon 'minders' would quickly appear to change the subject.

If the topic was Mormon doctrine, several Mormons would attach themselves to the discussion to 'correct misconceptions'.  Some of the Christians in our group renamed them "The Decepticons".

It will take a series of OL columns to discuss the tour itself.  Much of the tour was good.  There were many, many unexpected blessings.  Today is simply the introduction.
But as the title of today's OL implies, most of the expected blessings were not there.   (The blessings were not associated with Glenn Beck.)  

Assessment:
The best place to begin, I think, is with a statement made by Glenn Beck at the first event in Caesarea-by-the-Sea in the  very same open-air theatre in which Paul the Apostle was put on trial before King Herod Agrippa.
(A Roman amphitheatre is a completely round structure.  A theatre is shaped like a half moon, as is the one in Caesarea.)

It was in that very theatre that the saddest eight words in the New Testament are recorded when Agrippa said to Paul:
"Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian." (Acts 26:2Cool
(I wish I could have persuaded Glenn Beck, but this picture is as close as I ever got to him.)  

It was there, on that very spot, that Glenn Beck recited the wonderful reception he received by Israeli political leaders, Jewish rabbis and even several Muslim leaders.
Only the Christian leaders received any word of condemnation from Glenn Beck, who choked up with tears when he said accusingly, "it was only the Christians that questioned my salvation."

What Beck was insinuating in no uncertain terms was that those Christians who questioned his salvation were more intolerant, less good, and less, ummm, Christian than were the two thousand or so Americans sitting in that open-air theatre in Caesarea.

We will start with that statement, since it immediately divided the group into 'camps' and set the stage for the rest of the tour.    

He made that statement, from the very place King Agrippa was almost persuaded, while surrounded by famous born-again Christian authors like David Barton, John Hagee and Mike Evans, all of whom took time out from their own sermons to salute Beck's "courageousness" in offering his support to Israel.  (Maybe so, but I personally thought the thousands that forked over more than $6000 apiece to come to Israel as Hamas rockets were pounding the Israeli coastal cities were just as courageous -- and they weren't getting paid to be there.)

Significantly, not one of the famous born-again evangelists questioned Glenn Beck's salvation, although Glenn Beck made it clear that the issue at hand was the status of Glenn Beck's salvation through aegis of the LDS (Mormon) church.
Given Beck's statement, offered more as an accusation of those unnamed 'Christian leaders' than anything else,  it seems essential to me that we examine salvation as the Mormons define it:

Mormons believe God is not eternal, or even the only God, but was who inhabited a planet in the star system, Kolob. They believe they are saved by obeying Mormon doctrine. They believe that God had a god that elevated God to godhood and that they, too, can be elevated to godhood.

They believe they lived as full-grown adults (the  Doctrine of Pre-existence) in a spirit world before they were born.  In Pre-Existence, they had friends and family and relationships and knowledge.  While there, they were presented with the Plan of Salvation, which included being given a choice to be born as humans with the prize at the end being godhood of their own planet.

They didn't have to and some were content to stay in the spirit world where they were already in heaven instead of taking the plunge and getting a shot at being God.
They believe that when their spirits passed into existence, they also passed through a Veil of Forgetfulness where they forgot their previous spirit lives.  Here, they recreate their pre-existent families as eternal families.

Jesus and Satan were brothers and God liked Jesus' plan best so Satan rebelled.  Mormons don't believe in the sin nature, or 'original sin'.
Mormons believe the purpose of human existence is to become like God. Mormons also believe it is ok to lie about their beliefs and affiliations to non-Mormons and to new Mormon recruits under the 'principle' of "milk before meat.".

So they are free to deny the crazier parts, (God was a man, there are lots of Gods, including them, they take spirit wives to become goddesses, etc.) on the principle that until a Mormon has been sufficiently indoctrinated, they will recognize how crazy it sounds and maybe refuse to join or even quit and then spread the word.

Mormons believe that after they die, they move back to the spirit world. Some of them are imprisoned for not believing the Mormon gospel while on earth.  Those that never heard the Mormon Gospel will be visited by Mormon spirit missionaries.

Mormons believe that the dead can be saved after death if they are baptized by proxy by living Mormons.
Mormons in this spirit world can still sin:

"Those who are righteous in this life will still be righteous. Those who were unrighteous will still be unrighteous. We will have the same desires after we die as we had while on this earth" (Gospel Fundamentals, "Life after Death," pg 195.).

Resurrection is in several parts and only those who had a perfect knowledge of the divinity of Christ yet chose Satan will be damned.  The rest will go through various stages of perfection while in the post-life spirit world.

Finally, if you miss your dog, don't worry.  Fido, (as well as every other dog, cat, hamster, pigeon, aardvark and platypus) will ALSO be resurrected during the last of the, umm, seven different resurrections taught by the LDS.

The Mormon Plan of Salvation is in seven parts as well, with final stage, logically enough, called the Final Judgment.

At Final Judgment, those finally judged go to one of three heavens, as befits their works, or to the Outer Darkness, which is Mormon hell.

So, since Glenn Beck's salvation is in seven parts, of which Glenn Beck is currently only in Stage Three, (Mortality), even Glenn Beck ought to be questioning it -- since it ain't over yet and nobody, LDS or otherwise, has it until it is over, according to LDS theology.

This is a good place to recap and summarize where we have come with this so far.  By concealing the relationship between Voyager Travel and the LDS, many well-meaning Christians were duped into contributing to the LDS Church and their efforts at LDS evangelism.  

We were deceived into contributing to a religious system than cannot save and a god who is neither eternal nor Biblical, and a created, rather than Divine Jesus whose only qualification for the job was being a better planner than Satan.  

We were tricked into providing money for use by Mormon missionaries that will lead people away from salvation rather than to it, and loaned our legitimacy to that cause by appearing together with thousands of others in a show of support that was supposed to be for Israel but was manipulated into a night to honor Glenn Beck's 'courageous' stand of faith in a god who cannot save.

The entire premise of the tour was that of having the courage to stand for what we believed in.  It began by deceiving the bulk of those attending who certainly would NOT have signed up with an outfit called LDS Travel by disguising it as something else.

The uneven yoking of the LDS, Greek Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, non-denominational and born-again Christians under a single religious banner may have sounded spiritual, but Satan is a spirit, as well.

There were other travel agencies, but Voyager was the one recommended by Glenn Beck. Is it possible that Glenn Beck didn't know that Voyager Travel changed its name from LDS Travel in order to deceive non-Mormons?  Is it conceivable that there could have been any other reason for concealing the LDS connection?

Beck said he researched the Voyager travel agency carefully.  If he didn't know about the LDS connection, he lied about researching it.  If he did know, then he must have agreed to burying the connection between the LDS and Voyager Travel.  

Glenn Beck's tour was supposed to be about truth. But since the truth was inconvenient, it was surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?" (2 Corinthians 6:15-16)

If the LDS really is just another Christian denomination, as its apologists insist, then why the deception? The answer should be obvious.  
People don't hide something unless there is something to hide.
CJ

Glenn Beck Jerusalem rally for Mormonism
White horse prophecy.  Are mormons christian?
So much more information you need to know here!
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about2041.html


Freemason, Mormon, Catholic, Islam are all illuminati
MASONRY is a RELIGION  -  a FALSE cult!

http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about2198.html

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BornAgain2

End Time Current Events: 3-18-12–Part 3
http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?p=4084

Table of Contents:

   More of Tom Horn’s Promotion of the Roman Catholic Church: PETRUS ROMANUS (Pt 12)
   A Listener Writes: MORE CATHOLIC GARBAGE now being spewed about PETRUS ROMANUS—Many ministries eager to jump on the Catholic bandwagon**
   Fatimah was the youngest daughter of the founder of Islam Muhammad

Click Here to Play the Part 3 Audio
http://www.contendingfortruth.com...ploads/306.3-3-18-12-DS300050.mp3

** Plays audio of an interview with Tom Horn and Steve Quayle - believe it or not, Quayle says Catholics *are Christians* Evil or Very Mad and comments how we need to "grow up" and accept this as truth!
BornAgain2

Mike Rivero(one of the "truther" alternative media analysts)...BEWARE of this guy! Why?
1) He denies chemtrails exist
2) He denies secret satanic human sacrifices exist
3) He says a plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11
4) He claims Obama is a natural born American citizen(and his "sources" in Hawaii say his USA birth certificate is under lock and key there)
5) And last, but not least, he has this "Zionist Jews in Israel run the Illuminati" mindset

Mike Rivero - ADMITTED Obama Supporter! Twisted Evil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5VSwlvQOUg

Matthew 3:10  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
BornAgain2

Mike Rivero Wants Socialized Medicine In America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n27q_rIVIzE

Mike Rivero "My ONLY beef with the nazis is they wrecked their own country"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FDPfeLFDmo

Matthew_12:35  A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
BornAgain2

Alex Jones of InfoWars Makes American Gun Owners Look Really, Really Bad
January 7, 2013 by Robert Farago
“Frankly, RF, this looks *really* bad for all gun owners. You and I are both libertarians and share like-minded politics, and we may even agree with Alex Jones from time to time. But the rant Alex Jones went on during this ‘debate’ will be used by the antis to discredit us for a long time coming. I can’t help but feel sick. This sets our movement back so far. I can picture the left using Alex Jones’ soundbytes from Piers Morgan for a very long time. I only hope . . .

that as this is replayed that the American people see how absurd Alex Jones was acting that they feel he must be an extreme representative of gun owners and can’t possibly speak for the majority of us.
Piers was very smart to choose Alex Jones, someone Piers knew would go nuclear at the push of a button and hang himself with his own rope. Notice how Piers let Jones speak and monopolize the entire ‘debate’?

In all other debates, like with Pratt, Piers would monopolize the conversation and speak over his pro-gun guests as they used intellectual arguments.
With AJ, Piers didn’t even have to do that, he let Alex Jones discredit himself with his ramblings. I think this is really bad, bud. “
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/...really-really-bad/#comment-588377
BornAgain2

I don't know, but this clip seems to be very Jesuit-ical in nature. William F. Cooper, Fritz Springmeyer, and John Todd were silenced(for at least a good while, that is) when they put out the truth. But Alex Jones? Dunno, but his media attention just continues to grow despite all his talking. Yeah, Infowars isn't a bad news source, but just saying.

Piers Morgans guests call for shooting Alex Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IbV2eYla_b8
CJ

I turned to watch CNN just to see Alex Jones -
couldnt stand it longer than about 5 minutes.
Alex ranted, interrupted Piers Morgan, was just plain RUDE.
Most people cant hear facts thru such attitude.
Alex was right on facts but so bad on attitude his facts were lost.
http://www.trueblueliberty.com/tabid/56/g/posts/t/2522
BornAgain2

It was around the time Bush II ended his term when Ramsey went from warning everyone about the economic collapse, to saying how the economy will be good for another 100 years. Churches across America have also invited Ramsey's "teachings", believe it or not. As for Orman, thought she was just another celeb MSM figure, nothing more.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/da...an-dave-ramsey-122754956.html?l=1

Don’t Get Your Money Advice from Suze Orman, Dave Ramsey: Pound Foolish Author

1/10/13

Video link inside

Few people know how to manage their personal finances effectively. That’s why we spend millions of dollars every year on books and seminars that tell us how to get rich quick and get out of debt.

Suze Orman, Dave Ramsey, Robert Kiyosaki and David Bach are just some of the best-known personal finance experts advising and lecturing indebted Americans about their foolish and short-sighted money decisions. Yet these are exactly the individuals that the average person should not be listening to for financial solutions according to Helaine Olen, author of the new book "Pound Foolish: Exposing the Dark Side of the Personal Finance Industry" and former editor of the Money Makeover series in the Los Angeles Times.

In an interview with The Daily Ticker, Olen says these financial gurus either offer platitudes or “dreadful” advice that don’t apply to most people’s lives or situations.

“The idea that anyone can give specific advice to millions of people first of all doesn’t really work,” she says. “We’re not archetypes.”

Most Americans are under serious financial strain and the advice “parroted” by these so-called experts is “easier said than done,” Olen argues.

The stats Olen uses to paint the economic picture of a typical American is alarming: Americans have less than $100,000 saved in dedicated retirement accounts and 43% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. Salaries have stagnated and Americans’ net worth has fallen nearly 40% between 2007 and 2010.

Moreover, people don’t rack up thousands of dollars in credit card bills because they buy too much, she says. Unexpected and costly medical emergencies, divorce or long bouts of unemployment are the main reasons Americans find themselves drowning in debt.

Ending such indulgences as daily Starbucks lattes (recommended by David Bach) or buying one or two or three homes with zero down (promoted by Robert Kiyosaki) are exactly the tips that have steered Americans in the wrong direction and provided false hope to many desperate individuals.

Olen takes particular umbrage at the assertion that one can become a millionaire by putting all of their savings in the stock market. Suze Orman has promoted this suggestion before on CNBC and in her numerous books, but Orman has admitted that she rarely invests in stocks and prefers the safety of municipal bonds, according to Olen. Equities are extremely volatile and rarely provide the 12% annual return that Orman and Dave Ramsey tout for people looking to quadruple their income, Olen adds.

Olen does agree with the overall message promoted by most personal finance experts that Americans should pay off high-interest credit cards and reduce their overall debt burdens. But she insists that there’s no one size fits all solution. Instead she says society needs to change its attitude toward money and encourage more frank, candid discussions about debt and saving.

Olen purposely avoids making her own personal finance recommendations in "Pound Foolish" but does proffer one tip she’s learned over the years as a personal finance journalist: invest in market index funds. They won’t make one rich but they offer the best return with the least amount of risk, she says.
BornAgain2

Want to see where Dave Ramsey lives?  Rolling Eyes

http://www.coolsprings.com/news/dave-ramseys-house/

BornAgain2

Add Piers Morgan to the list...

CNN's Morgan Slams Down Constitution, Calls It 'Your Little Book'

1/10/13

VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbar...itution-Calls-It-Your-Little-Book

Transcript: Piers Morgan talking with Ben Shapiro, Author of Bullies: How the Left's Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences Americans:
PIERS MORGAN, CNN HOST: My next guest has strong words for me. He says I'm off the rails on guns in America. Ben Shapiro is editor-at-large at Breitbart.com and the author of "Bullies: How the Left’s Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences Americans." So, why am I off the rails, Mr. Shapiro?


BEN SHAPIRO, EDITOR BREITBART.COM: You know, honestly Piers, you have kind of been a bully on this issue, because what you do, and I’ve seen it repeatedly on your show. I watch your show. And I’ve seen it repeatedly. What you tend to do is you tend to demonize people who differ from you politically by standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook saying they don't seem to care enough about the dead kids. If they cared more about the dead kids, they would agree with you on policy. I think we can have a rational, political conversation about balancing rights and risks and rewards of all of these different policies, but I don't think that what we need to do is demonize people on the other side as being unfeeling about what happened at Sandy Hook.

MORGAN: How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of the children that died there. How dare you.

SHAPIRO: I’ve seen you do it repeatedly, Piers.

MORGAN: Like I say, how dare you.

rest: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbar...itution-Calls-It-Your-Little-Book
BornAgain2

It was only 2 years ago when Alex put this guy on a platform(inviting him onto his radio show), b/c (supposedly)he supported Ron Paul's Audit the Fed bill.

I know both political "parties" are controlled-opposition, but nonetheless Grayson won in a HEAVILY FL GOP district(where Dems rarely get elected). If this isn't a blatant sign elections are rigged, then I don't know what is.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usn...ails-stealth-socialism-in-america
Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:29  
Rep. Grayson Hails "Stealth Socialism" in America

Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) has been hailed as a "progressive hero" by Democracy for America, the political action committee founded by former Vermont Governor Howard Dean. Yet he has something in common with some of the Tea Party heroes on the Republican Right. Grayson (shown) and his conservative colleagues agree socialism is on the rise in America. The difference is Grayson welcomes it.

"Stealth socialism's been created," Grayson, a second-term congressman from Florida's Ninth District, said in an interview with salon.com on a range of political and economic issues. "We've had a government takeover of the bond market," he said in describing what has happened since the financial industry crisis of 2008. He continued,

Government simply ends up owning more and more and more. If government had taken over the steel industry, maybe it would have been more noticeable. They've taken over the financing of housing industry as well, with a desired result. The result is now, finally, particularly in areas that were hard-hit, like mine in Central Florida, housing is ticking up again. So the Fed did in essence create an economic baseline that has led to something along the lines of 50,000-100,000 jobs created a month, setting a foundation for recovery for the U.S. economy.

Grayson is far from alone in noting the socialist trends in federal economic policy. In February 2009, less than a month after the inauguration of Barack Obama, Newsweek magazine published a cover story with the title "We Are All Socialists Now." The article was about the new president's bailout and economic recovery plans, but noted "the U.S. government has already — under a conservative Republican administration — effectively nationalized the banking and mortgage industries." Even the late Marxist President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela hailed the federal takeover of a number of U.S. financial institutions, taunting President George W. Bush with the jibe that Bush had become a bigger socialist than Chavez himself.

Grayson claimed, "The Federal Reserve's unconventional monetary policy put us back on a low-level track toward growth. They showed that monetary policy in extremis can work to some degree."  

Neither the Fed's "quantitative easing" manipulations of the money supply nor Obama's "economic stimulus" programs have created much of a success story in job creation, however. The anemic economic recovery that began officially in June 2009 was puttering along at an annual rate of about 1.7 percent during the second quarter of this year. The modest drop in the unemployment rate this August, from 7.4 to 7.3 percent was due largely to the fact that 312,000 dropped out of the labor force and had given up looking for work. The 63.2 percent of Americans participating in the labor force — meaning they either have or are looking for a job —  is the lowest percentage since August 1978, according to Department of Labor statistics. Among the few who were finding work, more were finding part-time than were landing full-time jobs.

Grayson is promoting essentially more of the same, recommending that the government spend more on "things like senior services, pre-kindergarten, cleaning up national parks, things we need to be done that would benefit society, and put people on the payroll and pay them $10 an hour." He even boasts of his success in getting a substantial increase in funding for a bilingual housing counseling program administered by the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development. It resulted from his unique approach to bipartisanship, he explained to Salon reporter David Dayen, an approach free of what he describes as a common misperception among Washington politicians.

"It's to think that Republicans are going to vote for Democratic objectives, and vice-versa, because they like each other," he said. "This leads to things like the president golfing with John Boehner. It's this idea that if we play patty-cake, that will make everything better, and it's not the case. Liberals vote and conservatives vote for the most part on underlying principles." So how does Grayson work on those "underlying principles"? He offered his success with funding for the HUD program as an example.

I got a 50 percent increase for bilingual HUD housing counseling.... This matters a lot in my district, where 20 percent don't speak English, and another 20 percent are bilingual. And they need housing counseling; it's an area where housing values dropped 50 percent. So how did I get that? I said to Republicans explicitly ... "You claim you want to improve your image among Hispanics; put up or shut up. If you vote for this, it's not much money, and you show you have a minimal concern for Hispanics; and if you vote against it, you don't." And they rolled their eyes; they said Grayson doesn't understand; this would rob Peter to pay Paul. But when push came to shove, they accepted the amendment; they wouldn't allow a roll call vote on it. They didn't want to have their people vote against Spanish-language housing counseling. They didn't do it because I made pals with them. I scared the crap out of them!

That's one example of how well those underlying principles work. Economist and syndicated columnist Thomas Sowell has offered another. Sowell has been writing for years that increases in the minimum wage result in pricing many low-skilled workers, and especially young workers with little experience, out of the job market.

"What is surprising," he wrote in a recent column, "is that, despite an accumulation of evidence over the years of the devastating effects of minimum wage laws on black teenage unemployment rates, members of the Congressional Black Caucus continue to vote for such laws." He recalled once asking a member of that caucus why that is:

The answer I got was that members of the Black Caucus were part of a political coalition and, as such, they were expected to vote for things that other members of that coalition wanted, such as minimum wage laws, in order that other members of the coalition would vote for things that the Black Caucus wanted.

When I asked what could the black members of Congress possibly get in return for supporting minimum wage laws that would be worth sacrificing whole generations of young blacks to huge rates of unemployment, the discussion quickly ended. I may have been vehement when I asked that question.

Alas, poor Sowell. He just doesn't understand Washington's "underlying principles" the way Congressman Grayson does.
BornAgain2

https://news.yahoo.com/cnn-pull-plug-piers-morgan-show-030946982.html
2/23/14
CNN to pull plug on Piers Morgan show

Washington (AFP) - CNN president Jeff Zucker has decided to end television host Piers Morgan's show after its ratings plunged, sources at the television network said.

The former British tabloid editor -- who irked conservative Americans after launching somewhat of a crusade for greater gun control measures -- struggled after stepping into the shoes of popular, down-to-earth host Larry King in the coveted 9:00 pm primetime slot.

King, an 80-year-old talk show star who now hosts a show broadcasting on Hulu, Ora TV and Russia's RT television, is known for his ability to connect immediately and easily with ordinary Americans. He hosted "Larry King Live" on CNN from 1985 to 2010, wearing his trademark wide-rimmed glasses, shirt with rolled-up sleeves and suspenders.

Morgan, in contrast, was inherently British and not just in his accent. In particular, he made repeated references to cricket, a sport with little US presence, and professed his ignorance about American football and preference for the round football, soccer.

"CNN confirms that 'Piers Morgan Live' is ending," CNN vice president of communications Barbara Levin told AFP. "The date of the final program is still to be determined."

US media reports said the show could end as early as next month but that Morgan may stay with CNN in another role.

In an interview with The New York Times, Morgan said the show had "run its course," adding that he and Zucker "have been talking for some time about different ways of using me."

He also acknowledged the show was underperforming.

"It's been a painful period and lately we have taken a bath in the ratings," Morgan said, adding that the show suffered especially on slow news days.

"Look, I am a British guy debating American cultural issues, including guns, which has been very polarizing, and there is no doubt that there are many in the audience who are tired of me banging on about it," he added
CJ

Maybe CNN will get Jay Leno to host  Smile


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