Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: 7.0 EARTHQUAKE HITS HAITI
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You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, alarmed,
for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there
will be famines and earthquakes. But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
The one who ENDURES to the END will be saved. Matthew 24
7.0 EARTHQUAKE HITS HAITI
Major Magnitude 7.3 (7.0) Quake Hits SW of PORT-AU-PRINCE
Jan 12
There has not been an earthquake this strong in this area in 200 years.
Haiti earthquake feared to have killed many. CNN is having excellent coverage.
A hospital collapsed, people screaming for help, many houses fell into a ravine.
Communications are down, yet pictures are coming out of there. Internet and cellphones appears working.
This was a slip quake, not a strike, and no tsunami was produced.
MANY aftershocks after the shallow quake.
Puerto Rico, which is near Haiti, had been having earthquakes all day.
A major magnitude 7.3 quake hit just 9 miles off the coast of Haiti.
A hospital and other buildings collapsed and people were screaming for help.
It was followed by many powerful aftershocks including magnitudes 5.9 and 5.5.
Substantial casualties expected when the sun rises.
A Reuters reporter in Port-au-Prince said he saw dozens of dead and injured people in the rubble, which blocked streets in the city.
The earthquake had a magnitude of 7 and was centered about 10 miles west of Port-au-Prince.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34829978/ns/world_news-americas
The orphanage in Haiti stood the quake and the children are OK - fox tv report.
Haiti covers both sides of the fence - voo doo (witchcraft, forbidden in scripture)
and Roman Catholic .. which frankly I dont regard as Christian. Yes some in that cult are christians, most not.
Pat Robertson evidently said something which is flying all over the inet, emails and chatrooms.
I would tell Pat - its too early to say it. There may be truth there, so be very careful how you respond.
Pat did Christianity no favors speaking out - if he spoke out ... hmm ... lemme look at cbn website .... nope, nothing about what Pat said - or didnt say
http://www.cbn.com/700club
I personally WOULD NOT contribute money to Haiti thru
CBN
whitehouse
Red cross
Billy graham organization
Evangelical Pat Robertson Says Haiti Made 'Pact With Devil'
Wednesday, January 13, 2010
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. — Evangelical broadcaster Pat Robertson says Haiti has been "cursed" because of what he called a "pact with the devil" in its history.
His spokesman said the Wednesday comments were based on Voodoo rituals carried out before a slave rebellion against French colonists in 1791.
Spokesman Chris Roslan says Robertson never stated that Tuesday's earthquake was God's wrath.
Robertson's Operation Blessing group is sending millions of dollars in medication and relief workers to the country.
Robertson has angered opponents many times before with comments on current events and criticism of other faiths.
He once said American agents should assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and said
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for withdrawing from the Gaza Strip. (May be true)
I am updating Haiti quake in January 14 ZionsCRY
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Seven years ago I was in Port au Prince, Haiti, teaching the Word from Jan. 9-14, 2003. I had been invited by Pastor Prince. I stayed in an orphanage built on the mountain.
Haiti (or Aiti) means "mountain land."
In the Bible a mountain represents a nation. We see this in Isaiah 2:2, "the mountain of the house of the Lord will be established as the chief of the mountains." Columbus arrived in Haiti (Hispanola) in 1492, founding the settlement, calling it La Navidad because it was founded on Christmas Day.
Yesterday a 7.0 Richter quake struck Port au Prince, doing a lot of damage and probably killing thousands of people. It looks like we are seeing multiple significant earthquakes now. This one in particular appears to be a sign of the shaking of the kingdoms of this world--that is, the "mountains"- and the "princes" of this world.
This is in accordance with the word spoken in the early morning hours of January 1st, when I read Rev. 11:15, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ."
It also connects to Haggai 2:6, 7 in regard to the shaking of the heavens and the earth. Hebrews 12:26-28 interprets this to mean the shaking of of all that can be shaken, so that only that which is of the Kingdom of God will remain standing.
Haggai's prophecy also connects it to the coming of the glory of God which will fill our temples with a glory greater than that which filled Solomon's temple (Hag. 2:9). This is likened to a new birth, as I showed previously. One might call it La Navidad. It may even have something to do with the shooting star that was filmed just under the moon last Christmas.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject: Pat Robertson on Haiti earthquake
I usually tune in 700 Club"s news and commentary part of the show and I saw the original segment in context about the controversy of Pat Robertson's statement. It was just that his timing about the situation could have been done at a more appropriate time even though his statement may be true. People don"t want to hear that God"s judgments are going to fall on the nations that turn against him. They are going to spew out their hatred against the Christians that bring that to their attention. You and I both have written about the curses that are coming to America because of the policies this government are purposely choosing for this country. At a later time will all this hate going to focused on us when these disasters strike us? When major judgments hit, both the innocent and the guilty die. We either turn our hearts to God or we curse and blame God instead of realizing our real enemy is Satan. Concerning supporting CBN, I don't but Operation Blessing I do support because they have a track record of disaster relief when others have come short. I know they played a big part during hurricane Katrina and other world disasters. Are the Christians going to come against each other when we need help each other because our time in this nation is coming very soon.
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010
On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French.
This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath.
If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster.
They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.
For tourists on Caribbean cruise ships, Haiti appears a beguiling, mysterious place.
The first independent black state, set up 200 years ago after a rebellion by African slaves against colonial France,
the mountainous island is home to exotic birds and animals and tropical forests.
But it is no paradise for the 9 million people.
The earthquake is the latest in a long line of tragedies to befall a place dubbed the Island of the Damned.
Those born in Haiti have long endured a living hell.
One in 10 under-40s are infected with HIV, and millions live in squalor.
While hurricanes, floods and earthquakes have all devastated the landscape over the years, the biggest threat has come from humans.
Successive dictators have raped, murdered and even reputedly eaten their enemies.
Haiti became infamous around the world during the reign of Francois 'Papa Doc' Duvalier, a former doctor who murdered 100,000 people and formed a
private band of cannibalistic murderers called the Tonton Macoutes. These Macoutes cut out the hearts, eyes and lungs of opponents with machetes,
while Papa Doc, stole almost a billion pounds in foreign aid.
Papa Doc made voodoo the country's official religion and claimed to be the spirit of death.
In 1971 Baby Doc, his deranged son, took over and continued the terror.
After the first Haiti free elections in 1991, the new president, Jean Bertrand Aristide,
was forced to flee after a coup by corrupt military figures keen to control lucrative cocaine smuggling routes
In 1993, the U.S. military was repelled by mobs armed with stones and clubs when American troops arrived to restore order.
I'm not the least bit fan of Pat Robertson(yes, I do believe he's on the NWO team), however, these comments(regardless of who said them), are correct.
Quite simly b/c it matches SCRIPTURE. This is my big gripe with these "Christian" end times MB, and even Billy Graham - RR et al say how it "hurts our witness of the gospel" to others if we "say such and such calamity is a judgement from God", while after Katrina hit, Billy Graham was like, "It's not clear why...", "I really don't know why...", etc. And for that matter too, the lukewarm church nowdays have their heads in the sand.
I mean was Graham trying to say that New Orleans was a good city, but God has plans to make it better? That's how it sure came across!
Bottom like, God HATES Sin, Sin is a TREMENDOUS burden on the flesh, Sin only leads to destruction, and then to death, and death eternal fire. Praise the Lord that he will do ANYTHING to get our attention and wake us up to repent!
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: RUSH Limbaugh on Haiti quake
RUSH Limbaugh speaks about Haiti quake
I Never Told Anyone Not to Donate to a Charitable Cause
RUSH: I'm gonna respond to this absolute BS that I said don't donate. But, you know, I do not make this program about me. I try very hard not to make this program about me. So if I have time to deal with that, I will. I'm confident everybody in this audience knows what I said and what I didn't say. Even the Washington Post says without the context, "What Limbaugh said is horrible." All I said was, if you paid your income taxes, that's how you donate to government for aid, and sure enough, here comes Obama announcing $100 million from the government for aid to Haiti, fine and dandy. But, you paid for it, it's your taxes. All I said was if you're going to donate do it outside the government, pure and simple. I was attacked, folks, because I am the leading voice of mainstream conservative views, not for any other reason. And this outrage is totally feigned, just as Tony Blankley said, all this outrage at me is totally faked up. They know exactly what I said, and they know for a fact that I would never tell people not to donate to any charitable cause like this, so it is what it is.
David Brooks today in the New York Times is basically saying what I said yesterday and was attacked for, that giving aid money to countries does not help them grow. Here it is right here in the New York Times, and nobody's mad at them. Do I need to read it? Yeah, let me. "On Oct. 17, 1989, a major earthquake with a magnitude of 7.0 struck the Bay Area in Northern California. Sixty-three people were killed. This week, a major earthquake, also measuring a magnitude of 7.0, struck near Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The Red Cross estimates that between 45,000 and 50,000 people have died. This is not a natural disaster story. This is a poverty story. It's a story about poorly constructed buildings, bad infrastructure and terrible public services. On Thursday, President Obama told the people of Haiti: 'You will not be forsaken; you will not be forgotten.'
If he is going to remain faithful to that vow then he is going to have to use this tragedy as an occasion to rethink our approach to global poverty. He's going to have to acknowledge a few difficult truths. The first of those truths is that we don't know how to use aid to reduce poverty. Over the past few decades, the world has spent trillions of dollars to generate growth in the developing world. The countries that have not received much aid, like China, have seen tremendous growth and tremendous poverty reductions. The countries that have received aid, like Haiti, have not." Oh, my gosh, this is deja vu, except I'm the one that said it. Using our own war on poverty, how much money have we given to the poor in this country, and we still have the same percentages of poor people -- and we're never supposed to examine the results, right? Only the good intentions of the givers!
And, of course, the givers are us. Our back pockets are looted by our own government, and the money is redistributed -- and as Mr. Brooks is saying here, there is no upside to this. "In the recent anthology 'What Works in Development?,' a group of economists try to sort out what we've learned. The picture is grim. There are no policy levers that consistently correlate to increased growth. There is nearly zero correlation between how a developing economy does one decade and how it does the next. There is no consistently proven way to reduce corruption. Even improving governing institutions doesn't seem to produce the expected results. ... . More than 10,000 organizations perform missions of this sort in Haiti. ...
"The second hard truth is that micro-aid is vital but insufficient. Given the failures of macrodevelopment, aid organizations often focus on microprojects. So we have "more than 10,000 organizations performing missions of this sort in Haiti." It's exactly what I said: We've got charities on the ground 24/7, 365 in Haiti. By some estimates, Haiti has more nongovernmental organizations per capita than any other place on earth. They are doing the Lord's work, especially these days, but even a blizzard of these efforts does not seem to add up to comprehensive change. Third, it is time to put the thorny issue of culture at the center of efforts to tackle global poverty. Why is Haiti so poor? Well, it has a history of oppression, slavery and colonialism." Yeeeees, all the things we pointed out this week: Dictatorships! "But so does Barbados, and Barbados is doing pretty well.
"Haiti has endured ruthless dictators, corruption and foreign invasions. But so has the Dominican Republic, and the D.R. is in much better shape. Haiti and the Dominican Republic share the same island and the same basic environment, yet the border between the two societies offers one of the starkest contrasts on earth -- with trees and progress on one side, and deforestation and poverty and early death on the other. "As Lawrence E. Harrison explained in his book 'The Central Liberal Truth,' Haiti, like most of the world's poorest nations, suffers from a complex web of progress-resistant cultural influences. There is the influence of the voodoo religion, which spreads the message that life is capricious and planning futile. There are high levels of social mistrust. Responsibility is often not internalized."
"Child-rearing practices often involve neglect in the early years and harsh retribution when kids hit 9 or 10. ... In this country, we first tried to tackle poverty by throwing money at it, just as we did abroad. Then we tried microcommunity efforts, just as we did abroad. But the programs that really work involve intrusive paternalism. These programs, like the Harlem Children's Zone and the No Excuses schools, are led by people who figure they don't understand all the factors that have contributed to poverty, but they don't care. They are going to replace parts of the local culture with a highly demanding, highly intensive culture of achievement -- involving everything from new child-rearing practices to stricter schools to better job performance," and none of these programs are sponsored by government and certainly not by liberal government.
So the things that end poverty are cultural, and they start bottom-up, and they're done by citizens and real people who can't take it anymore. Throwing money at it accomplishes nothing! It's been demonstrated all across the world, but most near to us it's been demonstrated in Haiti. I mention all this as a rebuttal to all of the feigned outrage at me, the lying note that I urged people not to give to charity for Haiti. Nobody in their right mind would ever believe that about me or anybody else, for that matter. However, I did say find some way to do it other than giving it to Obama, 'cause I know he's going to eliminate the charitable deduction. He wants to wipe out individual charitable giving. He wants the government to be the go-to person for all charities. That's the only reason you wipe out the deduction for charitable contributions.
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