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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:39 am    Post subject: Who is Doing the Forgiving!  Reply with quote

Who in the world are those involved in religion asking for forgiveness? From God! Therefore the assumption is, Godís not reconciled when they sin. In their mind they are separating themselves from God by their sin. Justification...Redemption...Propitiation...Remission...and Forbearance...all terms God wants people to acknowledge, to become familiar with, and to come to fully appreciate. Never make the mistake of thinking that these terms all mean the same thing. They do not. Each one has a distinct meaning all its own. Oftentimes, people will look at these terms and sort of lump them all together under a heading called forgiveness. 


To many people are trying to Christianize the flesh. One should never drive the train from emotions, but there are denominations living in the caboose, driving the train from the emotion standpoint, not living it from the doctrinal standpoint. But think about this: Is forgiveness the same thing as being justified or having someone elseís righteousness freely attributed to their account? They are not one and the same. The human raceís sins have all been forgiven, but forgiveness alone does not mean the person having forgiveness is as perfectly and totally righteous as the one who is doing the forgiving.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acts 26:20 †But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

1 Corinthians 6:9 †Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 †Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 †And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


Colossians 3:1 †If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 †Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 †For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 †When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Col 3:5 †Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
Col 3:6 †For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
Col 3:7 †In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
Col 3:8 †But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Col 3:9 †Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
Col 3:10 †And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Col 3:11 †Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Col 3:12 †Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
Col 3:13 †Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
Col 3:14 †And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 Corinthians 6:9-10, if Paul had ceased writing after going through this list of deplorable practices then we could safely assume that continuing to do these things after believing the good news message would result in a reversal of the offenders salvation or as some teach perhaps even a lost with a connect with God that must somehow be restored. But that isnít what Paul is saying here at all. Paul is telling these carnal saints at Corinth that the reason these detestable deeds had not and could not result in a lost of their salvation or their fellowship with God for that matter is because as carnal as these Corinthians happen to be they had a holy standing with God through their identity with his son. And the gift decree of righteousness belonging to the son had been totally and permanently credited to the account of these carnal believers to their account in heaven at the point of their belief.

Little wonder that right after listing all these deplorable sins the apostle Paul follows up immediately in verse 12 with these words ďAll things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. So while none of the things on Paulís list either 1 Corinthians chapter 6 or we might even say Galatians chapter 5 where Paul presents a similar list...none of these things can send a believer to the second death. They are definitely things all believers should avoid.

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