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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Queerage, Homosexuality, ordain? * scriptures  Reply with quote

   


The World vs. the Bible on Homosexuality
Feb.  2010  
 Dr. Stephen E. Jones
It is hardly possible this week to listen to the news without hearing something about "gay rights" in the military.

While they try very hard to focus on the issue of legal rights of equal treatment for homosexuals, the issue is much bigger than that when applied to any public setting. Occasionally, I hear this alternate issue referenced as a "hygiene" issue, which is designed to treat it clinically, rather than on an emotional or personal level.

The fact is this: When soldiers shower together, it is supposed to be a hygiene issue. But there are reasons why co-ed showering is not allowed. It is because it is self-evident that co-ed showering would inject an emotional (sexual) aspect to the hygiene experience that is unacceptable from a moral standpoint.

If a gay man showers with a straight man, how can this remain a mere act of personal hygiene? Is it not the same, emotionally speaking, as co-ed showering?

There are laws against voyeurism ("peeping toms") for the same reason. Such actions violate the personal privacy rights of those being spied upon. Do not these same rights of privacy apply in the shower? Or does one have to give up those rights when they join the military?

The only way to avoid this moral/privacy problem would be to make sure all gays and lesbians showered alone. Is that really feasible in the military? I don't think so, because it is not even feasible in the public school locker rooms. So the rights of students (at least the straight ones) are being violated all the time, often without their knowledge. This generates a lot of resentment and anger, and often times it is expressed in violence against gays.

The government "solution" is to create a new category of "hate crimes" in order to have an excuse to increase the punishment on cases of assault. The real solution should be to stop the voyeurism, even if it means not allowing gays or lesbians to shower in a group.

So the question is whether or not minority "gay rights" take precedence over "privacy rights" of the majority. If they determine that "gay rights" take precedence, then by the same reasoning, they would have to repeal all laws against voyeurism. Peeping Toms will have a heyday.

What Does the Bible Have to Say?

Insofar as enforcement is concerned, biblical law regulates behavior, not human nature itself. At least that is the venue of the Old Covenant, which regulates behavior as an outside force. The New Covenant, of course, changes people from the inside, and so it certainly does apply to BEING, rather than to mere DOING.

The law is clear in Lev. 20:13 (NASB),

"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."

It is clear that the law is speaking of DOING, rather than BEING. Because the law is an expression of the mind and will of God, it is clear that God thinks of such actions as "detestable." No amount of protest or argument can change this. One can only agree or disagree with the Bible. In the New Testament Paul tells us in 1 Cor. 6:9 and 10 (NASB),

(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, (10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Paul writes from a New Covenant perspective, and so the righteous standard is greater. It deals with BEING, and not mere DOING. Yet read the next verse . . .

(11) AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God.

In other words, some of the Corinthian believers had been homosexuals in the past, but they were "washed" (i.e., cleansed or purified) and sanctified and justified by Christ. They were no longer practicing homosexuals, but had put on the mind of Christ. The implication is that they were HEALED emotionally or possibly of genetic damage.

There was a lot of immoral activity in Corinth, much of it sanctioned by religion. Christianity was different. It required faith first and then obedience to God (His law). Anyone who used to be a thief or murderer had to stop doing so. If he refused, he was put out of the Church. So also with homosexual behavior. There was a righteous standard of behavior, based upon biblical law, that had to be maintained.

So if a Christian believer remained NOT HEALED of homosexual tendencies, he was still required to agree with the righteous standard of the law and cease such behavior. Further, if not healed emotionally in this life time, he is still a believer, but to enter the Kingdom of God, he will have to be healed at the resurrection.

The Goal of the World System

There are now nations which have made it illegal to read this verse aloud in public. They especially hate the NASB, because of its use of the term "homosexual." If things continue as they are going, it will eventually be classified as a "hate crime" to read certain portions of Scripture. After all, if governments can legalize gay voyeurism and trample upon privacy rights, they will have no problem with book burning.

The first thing will be to revoke tax-exempt status to any 501(c)3 "church" that preaches this portion of the Word. Next, they will simply prosecute everyone for "hate crimes" if they dare to affirm the divine inspiration of "every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God."

Church boards will then have to decide if they want to retain their tax-exempt status or not. And they may have to go underground in order to teach the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It would be wise for them to sell their buildings and assets before they are confiscated by the government.

We have been heading in this direction for many years. The real agenda behind the world's power brokers is to use the gay-lesbian community (along with others) to destroy Christianity. These people hate the Word of God because they hate God Himself. They do not really care about gays or lesbians, but they see such people as valuable assets in their assault on God.

The Old Covenant solution is to regulate the behavior of gays and lesbians, essentially banning such behavior. The New Covenant solution goes beyond mere regulation. It is to bring inner healing to gays and lesbians, so that they may function as God intended from the beginning.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And less not forget too how are so-called influental and well-respected evangelicals like Billy Graham and Rick Warren SUPPORT this gay agenda as well.

Persecutions of Christians isn't necessarily blood and violence(although it will be that way in the tribulation), but it's stuff like the gay agenda that gets stuffed into everyone's faces and presents to them like fact via Graham, Warren, the MSM, movies, tv, education, you name it. It's as if they're trying to get to our guilty conscience.

Heck - throw in Philip Yancy too - this guy was a very good Christian man, until he went WAY overboard when he dived into the gay agenda.

And also - did anyone know that the Bush Jr admin was FULL of Sodomites? NO JOKE! Even though none of this was reported in the MSM, when that Jeff Gannon story of him sneaking into PC leaked out, that's when all the dirty laundry started to leak out on the internet. Even JOHN ROBERTS is a homosexual/Sodomite himself!

Anyhow - ultimately, Satan is that subtle beast of the field, he has come up with alot of ways to persecute the church. "Purpose Drive Life" being leavened into churches was another.

And yes - recently, scientists have said there is NO gay giene!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: GOD, JESUS and Homosex Reply with quote

Leviticus 18
http://niv.scripturetext.com/leviticus/18.htm

22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

23  Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

24  Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled.

25  Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.

26  But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the aliens living among you must not do any of these detestable things,

27  for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled.

28  And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

29  Everyone who does any of these detestable things, such persons must be cut off from their people

Romans 1
http://niv.scripturetext.com/romans/1.htm

God's Wrath Against Mankind

18  The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,

19  since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

20  For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature
have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21  For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him,
but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22  Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God
for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24  Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25  They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26  Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

27  In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28  Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

29  They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity.
They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice.
They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;

31  they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

32  Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

1 Corinthians 9
http://niv.scripturetext.com/1_corinthians/9.htm

9  Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

10  nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

11  And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified,
you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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Jesus is GOD.
GOD damned the sin of same sex sex.
To say Jesus did NOT, is to say Jesus is not GOD.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some years ago I had what I felt might be a revelation concerning the homosexuals.  I was reading one of the old manuscripts.  The book of Enoch, Jashir or Jubilees, I do not remember which.  But there were a few chapters on Sodom and Gomorrah with stories that included Abraham's servant and one about one of Lots daughters.  Very little was mentioned concerning sexual acts, but much concerning the corrupt judicial system and how the people mistreated  travelers.  In this book it seemed to indicate that God's judgment came mainly because of their injustice and cruelty.


What I realized was that the problem with homosexuals was not specifically their sexual acts.  Their sexual acts were the result of their problem. Their problem was a spirit of perversion.  They want to pervert everything.  They have never had any difficulty performing their sexual acts when done in privacy.  That is not what they are fighting for.  What they are fighting for is to pervert anything that is honest or pure.  They pervert our language by changing definitions of words.  They are not looking for "rights."  They are demanding to be able to force their perverted sense of morals on everybody with impunity.


They lust for perversion in all areas of life, therefore God has given them over to their reprobate mind.
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TRUEMAN wrote:
Some years ago I had what I felt might be a revelation concerning the homosexuals.  I was reading one of the old manuscripts.  The book of Enoch, Jashir or Jubilees, I do not remember which.  But there were a few chapters on Sodom and Gomorrah with stories that included Abraham's servant and one about one of Lots daughters.  Very little was mentioned concerning sexual acts, but much concerning the corrupt judicial system and how the people mistreated  travelers.  In this book it seemed to indicate that God's judgment came mainly because of their injustice and cruelty.


What I realized was that the problem with homosexuals was not specifically their sexual acts.  Their sexual acts were the result of their problem. Their problem was a spirit of perversion.  They want to pervert everything.  They have never had any difficulty performing their sexual acts when done in privacy.  That is not what they are fighting for.  What they are fighting for is to pervert anything that is honest or pure.  They pervert our language by changing definitions of words.  They are not looking for "rights."  They are demanding to be able to force their perverted sense of morals on everybody with impunity.


They lust for perversion in all areas of life, therefore God has given them over to their reprobate mind.


that's exactly what they do in these Freemason "ceremonies"(as well as these Bohemian Grove once a year gatherings as well)...SODOMY.

Bottom line - this whole homosexual stuff are DEMONS - it's no surprise that at satanic gatherings, they engage in all this nonsense. Or look at the Roman Catholic Church - why were there so many molestation on young boys scandals going on? Quite simply, this denomination is INFESTED with demons.

And for that matter too - homosexuality within people ends up getting started b/c a person of another sex molests them...in essence demons are being infiltrated into those young boys/girls(i.e happened to Ted Haggard).

In either Chapter 1 or 2 of Romans, Paul pretty much explains it ALL on this issue - ultimately, the men and nations will just continue and continue to walk after uncleanness, that God will just give them up to a reprobate mind, with homosexuality being the LAST end of the ropes. I mean I can't say I'm surprised that this "gay agenda" started in this country in the 80's, after so many, many decades of sinning and wickedness.

Also - this issue is just SO hard to convince others, it seems - one time I told my born again mom how Rick Warren endorses gay pastors. And her response was, "What if my son was gay?".(I mentioned gay PASTORS, NOT people in general)

AND...as much as conservative Baptists I know are adament in terms of aborton/gay rights being very, very wicked, it surprises me why they put their rubber stamps on Billy Graham and Rick Warren, both of whom endorse the gay agendas.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U.S. QUEERAGE
Same-sex pseudomarriage in 30 states

The courts struck down bans against queerage.
No longer is the USA the will of the people or the states, but a decree of an evil judge.

Genesis 18:20  And the LORD said,
“The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...”
Genesis 19  God Destroys Sodom
http://biblehub.com/esv/genesis/18.htm

2 Peter 2:6  (GOD) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes (extinction), and made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter.  But GOD rescued righteous Lot.
http://biblehub.com/niv/2_peter/2.htm

Jude 1:6-7  And the (fallen) angels (demons) which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
http://biblehub.com/esv/jude/1.htm

Leviticus 18  condemns Sodomy
Same-sex lust has brought Gods curse on America and its military.
The curse of GOD is on any church which accepts this filthy practice!

Romans 1 also condemns Sodomy


However unfriendly Sodom was, it was judged for the filthy homosexual perversion.

Sodom was NOT destroyed because the people were unfriendly.

A Devout Rabbi said the last straw before the flood of Noah was homosexual marriage - which is not marriage in the Eye of GOD.

Leviticus said for homo SIN -
THE LAND WILL VOMIT OUT ITS INHABITANTS
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Mat 7:2   For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
I REALLY LIKE ELIEZER.
JOHN

http://www.speakingbible.com/jasher/B01C019.htm

The Book of Jasher

Chapter 19

1  And the cities of Sodom had four judges to four cities, and these were their names, Serak in the city of Sodom, Sharkad in Gomorrah, Zabnac in Admah, and Menon in Zeboyim.

2  And Eliezer Abraham's servant applied to them different names, and he converted Serak to Shakra, Sharkad to Shakrura, Zebnac to Kezobim, and Menon to Matzlodin.

3  And by desire of their four judges the people of Sodom and Gomorrah had beds erected in the streets of the cities, and if a man came to these places they laid hold of him and brought him to one of their beds, and by force made him to lie in them.

4   And as he lay down, three men would stand at his head and three at his feet, and measure him by the length of the bed, and if the man was less than the bed these six men would stretch him at each end, and when he cried out to them they would not answer him.

5 And if he was longer than the bed they would draw together the two sides of the bed at each end, until the man had reached the gates of death.

6 And if he continued to cry out to them, they would answer him, saying, Thus shall it be done to a man that cometh into our land.

7 And when men heard all these things that the people of the cities of Sodom did, they refrained from coming there.

8 And when a poor man came to their land they would give him silver and gold, and cause a proclamation in the whole city not to give him a morsel of bread to eat, and if the stranger should remain there some days, and die from hunger, not having been able to obtain a morsel of bread, then at his death all the people of the city would come and take their silver and gold which they had given to him.

9 And those that could recognize the silver or gold which they had given him took it back, and at his death they also stripped him of his garments, and they would fight about them, and he that prevailed over his neighbor took them.

10 They would after that carry him and bury him under some of the shrubs in the deserts; so they did all the days to any one that came to them and died in their land.

11 And in the course of time Sarah sent Eliezer to Sodom, to see Lot and inquire after his welfare.

12 And Eliezer went to Sodom, and he met a man of Sodom fighting with a stranger, and the man of Sodom stripped the poor man of all his clothes and went away.

13  And this poor man cried to Eliezer and supplicated his favor on account of what the man of Sodom had done to him.

14 And he said to him, Why dost thou act thus to the poor man who came to thy land?

15 And the man of Sodom answered Eliezer, saying, Is this man thy brother, or have the people of Sodom made thee a judge this day, that thou speakest about this man?

16 And Eliezer strove with the man of Sodom on account of the poor man, and when Eliezer approached to recover the poor man's clothes from the man of Sodom, he hastened and with a stone smote Eliezer in the forehead.

17  And the blood flowed copiously from Eliezer's forehead, and when the man saw the blood he caught hold of Eliezer, saying, Give me my hire for having rid thee of this bad blood that was in thy forehead, for such is the custom and the law in our land.

18 And Eliezer said to him, Thou hast wounded me and requirest me to pay thee thy hire; and Eliezer would not hearken to the words of the man of Sodom.

19 And the man laid hold of Eliezer and brought him to Shakra the judge of Sodom for judgment.

20 And the man spoke to the judge, saying, I beseech thee my lord, thus has this man done, for I smote him with a stone that the blood flowed from his forehead, and he is unwilling to give me my hire.

21 And the judge said to Eliezer, This man speaketh truth to thee, give him his hire, for this is the custom in our land; and Eliezer heard the words of the judge, and he lifted up a stone and smote the judge, and the stone struck on his forehead, and the blood flowed copiously from the forehead of the judge, and Eliezer said, If this then is the custom in your land give thou unto this man what I should have given him, for this has been thy decision, thou didst decree it.

22 And Eliezer left the man of Sodom with the judge, and he went away.

23 And when the kings of Elam had made war with the kings of Sodom, the kings of Elam captured all the property of Sodom, and they took Lot captive, with his property, and when it was told to Abraham he went and made war with the kings of Elam, and he recovered from their hands all the property of Lot as well as the property of Sodom.

24 At that time the wife of Lot bare him a daughter, and he called her name Paltith, saying, Because God had delivered him and his whole household from the kings of Elam; and Paltith daughter of Lot grew up, and one of the men of Sodom took her for a wife.

25
And a poor man came into the city to seek a maintenance, and he remained in the city some days, and all the people of Sodom caused a proclamation of their custom not to give this man a morsel of bread to eat, until he dropped dead upon the earth, and they did so.

26
And Paltith the daughter of Lot saw this man lying in the streets starved with hunger, and no one would give him any thing to keep him alive, and he was just upon the point of death.

27
And her soul was filled with pity on account of the man, and she fed him secretly with bread for many days, and the soul of this man was revived.

28
For when she went forth to fetch water she would put the bread in the water pitcher, and when she came to the place where the poor man was, she took the bread from the pitcher and gave it him to eat; so she did many days.

29
And all the people of Sodom and Gomorrah wondered how this man could bear starvation for so many days.

30
And they said to each other, This can only be that he eats and drinks, for no man can bear starvation for so many days or live as this man has, without even his countenance changing; and three men concealed themselves in a place where the poor man was stationed, to know who it was that brought him bread to eat.

31
And Paltith daughter of Lot went forth that day to fetch water, and she put bread into her pitcher of water, and she went to draw water by the poor man's place, and she took out the bread from the pitcher and gave it to the poor man and he ate it.

32
And the three men saw what Paltith did to the poor man, and they said to her, It is thou then who hast supported him, and therefore has he not starved, nor changed in appearance nor died like the rest.

33
And the three men went out of the place in which they were concealed, and they seized Paltith and the bread which was in the poor man's hand.

34
And they took Paltith and brought her before their judges, and they said to them, Thus did she do, and it is she who supplied the poor man with bread, therefore did he not die all this time; now therefore declare to us the punishment due to this woman for having transgressed our law.

35
And the people of Sodom and Gomorrah assembled and kindled a fire in the street of the city, and they took the woman and cast her into the fire and she was burned to ashes.

36
And in the city of Admah there was a woman to whom they did the like.

37
For a traveler came into the city of Admah to abide there all night, with the intention of going home in the morning, and he sat opposite the door of the house of the young woman's father, to remain there, as the sun had set when be had reached that place; and the young woman saw him sitting by the door of the house.

38
And he asked her for a drink of water and she said to him, Who art thou? and he said to her, I was this day going on the road, and reached here when the sun set, so I will abide here all night, and in the morning I will arise early and continue my journey.

39
And the young woman went into the house and fetched the man bread and water to eat and drink.

40
And this affair became known to the people of Admah, and they assembled and brought the young woman before the judges, that they should judge her for this act.

41
And the judge said, The judgment of death must pass upon this woman because she transgressed our law, and this therefore is the decision concerning her.

42
And the people of those cities assembled and brought out the young woman, and anointed her with honey from head to foot, as the judge had decreed, and they placed her before a swarm of bees which were then in their hives, and the bees flew upon her and stung her that her whole body was swelled.

43
And the young woman cried out on account of the bees, but no one took notice of her or pitied her, and her cries ascended to heaven.

44  And the Lord was provoked at this and at all the works of the cities of Sodom, for they had abundance of food, and had tranquility amongst them, and still would not sustain the poor and the needy, and in those days their evil doings and sins became great before the Lord.

45
And the Lord sent for two of the angels that had come to Abraham's house, to destroy Sodom and its cities.

46
And the angels rose up from the door of Abraham's tent, after they had eaten and drunk, and they reached Sodom in the evening, and Lot was then sitting in the gate of Sodom, and when he saw them he rose to meet them, and he bowed down to the ground.

47
And he pressed them greatly and brought them into his house, and he gave them victuals which they ate, and they abode all night in his house.

48
And the angels said to Lot, Arise, go forth from this place, thou and all belonging to thee, lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of this city, for the Lord will destroy this place.

49
And the angels laid hold upon the hand of Lot and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hands of his children, and all belonging to him, and they brought him forth and set him without the cities.

50
And they said to Lot, Escape for thy life, and he fled and all belonging to him.

51 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah and upon all these cities brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven.

52
And he overthrew these cities, all the plain and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground; and Ado the wife of Lot looked back to see the destruction of the cities, for her compassion was moved on account of her daughters who remained in Sodom, for they did not go with her.

53
And when she looked back she became a pillar of salt, and it is yet in that place unto this day.

54
And the oxen which stood in that place daily licked up the salt to the extremities of their feet, and in the morning it would spring forth afresh, and they again licked it up unto this day.

55  And Lot and two of his daughters that remained with him fled and escaped to the cave of Adullam, and they remained there for some time.

56  And Abraham rose up early in the morning to see what had been done to the cities of Sodom; and he looked and beheld the smoke of the cities going up like the smoke of a furnace.

57 And Lot and his two daughters remained in the cave, and they made their father drink wine, and they lay with him, for they said there was no man upon earth that could raise up seed from them, for they thought that the whole earth was destroyed.

58 And they both lay with their father, and they conceived and bare sons, and the first born called the name of her son Moab, saying, From my father did I conceive him; he is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

59 And the younger also called her son Benami; he is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

60 And after this Lot and his two daughters went away from there, and he dwelt on the other side of the Jordan with his two daughters and their sons, and the sons of Lot grew up, and they went and took themselves wives from the land of Canaan, and they begat children and they were fruitful and multiplied.
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         QUEERAGE


 Evil or Very Mad      The U.S. Supreme Court, Congress and this filthy whitehouse
PRAISE SIN and DAMN the entire nation!!

What will pastors do?  What will YOU do?


Satanists are fast expunging every semblance of Christian from our nation.
Caesar has demanded that we accept FORBIDDEN SIN.

Here is my edit / re-write of Montana Pastor Chuck Baldwin article.  READ link
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Artic...ellow-Pastors-And-Christians.aspx


501c3 and queers
501c is an Arm of the Beast!

Revelation chapter 13


It will not be long before each and every one of us pastors will be ASKED to “marry” same-sex couples, then be REQUIRED to.  Some pastors seek their denominational superiors, some counseling with attorneys for guidance. But there is NO avoiding the issue. Soon we will have to make a conscientious decision.

WHAT WILL WE DO?

Most pulpits were silent when the freedom to pray and read the Bible was removed from our public schools in 1962 and silent over the slaughter of unborn babies in 1973.   NOW Holy Matrimony has been made UNHOLY!  Will pastors remain silent?  
Will we become willing accomplices to perversion?

All over America, lawsuits against pastors who refuse to marry same-sex couples have already been filed. The same is true for Christians in various service industries that refuse to cater to perverted unholy alliance.

Satanist Sodomites have brought a $70 million lawsuit against publishers of the Bible, demanding that sodomy be removed from the Scriptures.  Pastors and churches are intimidated by IRS tax-exempt status.

God has forced his pastors and churches to take a stand. They will either submit to Christ or they will submit to Caesar. There is no middle ground.  501c3 is a church’s acceptance of state authority. For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.” Exodus 34:14

Christian ministers must repudiate state authority over marriage.
Immediately cease and desist from officiating over any marriage, heterosexual or homosexual, that includes a license from the state. In the history of the Church, state-licensure of marriages is very recent. For over 1,800 years, most marriages required no state-licensure. A certificate of marriage was all that was needed.

So what if we lose our tax-exempt status?
Is a state-created tax-exempt license more important than fidelity to Christ and the Scriptures?
We will lose tithing members if they cannot claim their contributions on their tax forms.
SO BE IT.  Its time we find out who is real and who isn’t.

Our churches are filled with careless, insincere, half-hearted Christians.
I have long said MOST in todays pews across America will NOT be in heaven.

God promised to separate the sheep from the goats and the wheat from the chaff.  Matthew 25  
He is doing that in the United States right now. America’s churches have been living in a manipulated spiritual bubble which is bursting.

All who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.  
2 Timothy 3:12

What will YOU do if your pastor agrees to marry same-sex couples?
Time to pray, ask GOD before giving offerings.

Pickin n grinnin their way to hell.
Christians have been flocking to feel-good churches.

Either the Church in America repents and does the first works or it will quickly lose its candlestick. Truly, “the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God.” I Peter 4:17

so ....... what will YOU do?

US Supreme Court damned America!
5 beings in black robes curse the land, ALL 50 STATES MUST SUPPORT QUEERAGE SIN

June 26, 2015  -  The Supreme Court cursed the nation.
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/ftopic4101-342.php
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/ftopic4101-0-asc-333.php

Can you be queer and Christian?   NO!
OLD thread, locked
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about1269.html

ONWARD!  STAND!  OVERCOME!  ENDURE![/size]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mG78M7g9wRo

HARBINGER  WARNINGS - Isaiah 9 prophecy
When GOD destroys USA, you cant say He didnt WARN us!
http://cj.myfreeforum.org/about2307.html


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad   TEXAS Conservative Baylor University drops 'homosexual acts' from misconduct code
July 2015
- The world's largest Baptist university, Baylor, has dropped language in its sexual misconduct policy that punished those who engaged in homosexual acts.  Baylor had been one of a handful of religious U.S. colleges and universities that allowed for the dismissal of students, and sometimes staff, for homosexuality.

Baylor has removed "homosexual acts" as a punishable offense in its sexual misconduct policy.
The policy also mandated disciplinary action for sexual assault, incest, adultery and fornication.

The new policy endorsed by the university's board in May states, "Baylor will be guided by the biblical understanding that human sexuality is a gift from God and that physical sexual intimacy is to be expressed in the context of marital fidelity."  They did not say if it would allow married same-sex couples among its ranks after the U.S. Supreme Court last month ruled that gay marriage is legal in all 50 states.  Baylor graduate Brittney Griner is a lesbian basketball player.
http://news.yahoo.com/conservativ...ts-misconduct-code-223103015.html


As you know, I am an Accountant (unemployed now, but have a CPA).
Please don't get me wrong, I believe in benevelance and giving to the poor -
but if you need to do so to get tax benefits?

Just think about it for a second - if let's say you give $10,000, then you'll get no more than 1/3 of it back on your refund, about $3000. So what happened? You but flushed $7000 down the toilet, which could have gone for a MUCH better use...

1) Buying and distributing tracts and bibles to lost souls(instead of giving it to some Babel building, which will either squander it on these fleshly youth group activities, or store it up in their fat bank accounts). You have NO idea how many HUNGRY LOST souls are out there!

Matthew 10:42  And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

2) You can either put it in your savings, or put more in your 401K - last I read, Gen X and Millenials won't have much to retire on when they reach that retirement age.

3) From what I understand, the IRS DOES have liberties to look through these 501c3 church's accounting books, and make records of who is giving, etc.(So if a pastor tells you that churches aren't at liberty to get their books audited b/c of the separation of church and state clause, they are LYING to you)

4) There's this LIE that's been going on for years how God will punish you and your finances if you don't tithe - well, it all but contradicts what God said in Matthew 6:25-34(Take no thought for the morrow...).

I don't mean to sound blunt here - but it's depressing when I hear how we should tithe, but en yet alot of money is being consumed away on Hellywood movies, these technology "goodies", eating out too much in these processed-foods restaurants, etc.

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July 2015  I found old thread from 2010 and combined threads

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