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|Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: Last US President GWB or obama, 12 house vision
The Last U.S. President
HOUSE VISION of the NIGHT
by C. Alan Martin, 1971 vision
They asked Jesus, 'If You are the Christ, tell us.'
But Jesus said to them, 'If I tell you, you will not believe and if I ask a question, you will not answer.
But from now on THE SON OF MAN WILL BE SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND of the power OF GOD.'
And they all said, 'Are You the Son of God, then?'
And He said to them, 'YES I AM.'
Luke 22:66-69 bible online http://nasb.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm
Notes from Pastor CJ
George W. Bush was the LAST U.S. President, because Barak Hussein 0bama, tho in the whitehouse, is not qualified according to the U.S. Constitution, to be president. Obama was born in Kenya, Africa, raised a Muslim in Indonesia, is still a citizen of Indonesia, and is not even a U.S. citizen. I personally have believed Bill Clinton was the last president,
as Clinton issued Executive Orders which could not be changed.
Bush was a puppet of the New World Order globalists, and so is 0bama.
The willow weeping is about to occur, I believe, before September 20, 2009
After Bush the Republic ends
President George W. Bush was center stage in Martin's vision
Perhaps that means he is the goat of Daniel 8, and/or America is the goat.
In any case, 0bama is rapidly ending our Republic
The GOAT of Daniel 8
Daniel 8 bible online:
The possibility that the United States of America is the GOAT of Daniel 8 cannot be ignored.
There are MANY various theories who the goat is.
Perhaps it is AMERICA, maybe it was President George W Bush.
I have seen verse 23 of Daniel 8 apply to Barak Hussein 0bama
without touching the ground (verse 5)
Media and Persia are IRAQ and IRAN. The USA flew across the sea without touching the ground to bomb IRAQ.
Some believe this was the USA attack on Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
Our air force flew across the world. I dont know, its only one theory.
Think about it. MOST prophecy books and teachings are WRONG! TRUE!
First of all, generations past didnt need to KNOW what we MUST KNOW.
Second, America has spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world for 200 years!
WHY would we think we are the evil goat?
WHAT would saying we are the goat of Daniel 8 do to our testimony?
We need to KNOW today! Our nation has abandoned GOD and His rules.
We are 'christian' in name only. We no longer live holy lives.
The church is apostate, filthy, full of sins. Some even ordain sin!
The last 12 USA presidents
Each was represented by a house
George W. Bush (43) 2000 - 2008
After Bush the Republic ends
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I am going to put the Shilohouse update to Martin's vision FIRST, then follow it with what Martin wrote.
C. Alan Martin updated his vision June, 1997 - Shilohouse
We are in house #10 now. (Now being Martin's 1997 update)
Hold onto your hats, because the next dozen or so years are going to be a roller coaster ride!
Note from Shilohouse June 2004
Up until this point (house 10), I believe the vision is pure. A clear error in understanding who the next president was occurred.
People were suggesting to him that the next President would be Al Gore.
The weeping willow clearly vindicates the overall accuracy of the vision as this is a clear reference to the
September 11th, 2001 terrorist attack on America. I believe the children represent the
great final harvest reaped in the midst of the weeping.
This vision while foreboding to say the least; is included for two reasons
1) Because it points to the next presidential administration (after President Bush
as being the LAST presidential administration. and
2) other than the reference to V.P. Gore the references are accurate.
It is important to remember Prophetic dreams and visions can indicate possible outcomes.
Since this is an 'in part' prophetic dream, we need to remember accuracy can vary depending upon our
nation's level of repentance, and the obedience of God's people. I DO NOT say that this will be the
end of our nation, as this wounded head of the beast (the U.S.) does recover; (see Revelation 13:3 & 12).
The possibility of a DIFFERENT TYPE of government over this country is very real.
Is President Donald Trump the NEW row of houses?
See page 3
(Pastor CJ July 2009 - 0bama is turning America into a socialist / communist dictatorship.)
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|Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: continue Martin's update
We know now that George W. Bush is House 11
In the yard of house # 11 is a large weeping willow tree. This tree represents mourning and sorrow.
But under the draping limbs of this tree are children playing. Bush kept America safe.
House 12 President ? This is the last house that I saw in this vision of the night.
After this house was a dirt path that lead toward a collection of boulders arranged in a semi circle which reminded me
of a place where a trial was held and judgment rendered. In another dream which took place during the millennial age,
I was standing among these rock looking at the ruins of a world rocked by the tribulation.
In the ruins of these boulders I found a witch doll. I knew immediately that one of the reasons that the USA was judged
was because she had gone after the occult and witchcraft.
Across from the path after house #12 was a new row of houses stretching off into the distance. These I believe are the
rulers of the land that Jesus will set up during the millennium. In the vision of the night (after I saw the star fall to the earth),
I heard a voice say "Look to the east". I began to turn and fully expected to see Jesus coming in the clouds.
As I turned I saw the clouds part and I saw the blood moon and the dark sun. Both of these are symbolic of judgment being
levied on a nation and the fall of a nation. I continued turning to the east and saw the ancient army approaching from the east
through the yards of all the houses of the presidents. It was then that I ran down to join this army in the yard of the house of Nixon.
This was 1971, the year I was saved. Immediately the scene changed and I was in the middle of a city in gray ruins.
I saw a man emerge from what I perceived to be a "temple fortress" who was dressed in a diplomatic suit and carrying a briefcase.
A voice said "He claims to be God, but is of devil". Then the dream ended.
HOUSE VISION of the NIGHT
by C. Alan Martin, 1971 vision of the last U.S. Presidents
(The remnant website seemed to be the BEST page I found to copy the 12 house vision, June 1, 1997)
In 1971, I received a vision of the night in which I was shown a row of houses.
It was not until 23 years later that the Spirit gave me a dream which held the key to the meaning of these houses.
They represent presidential administrations, starting with Truman in 1953, and extending into the
future for two more presidents beyond Clinton.
Linear Recounting of the Vision of the Night
We were fleeing the persecution and calamity of the day. A brother was fleeing with me. He fell and I paused to help him up.
We prayed "Lord Have Mercy". My friend vanished, and I looked around to see that I was at the top of a hill overlooking
12 houses. As I looked to the west, I noticed dark and ominous clouds gathering over one house (#10) and
proceeding through to the last house (#12).
I looked into the sky over #12, and saw an arc of what appeared to be 6 stars in the sky. One of the stars fell to the
earth like a fig that was shaken off a limb. A voice came to me and said "look to the east!". I began to turn to the east,
fully expecting to see the Lord coming in the clouds. The dark clouds opened up in two places and I saw the
sun darkened and the moon turned to blood.
As I looked to the east, instead of seeing the Lord in the sky, I saw an army. This army was made up of ancient
armliments such as battering rams, catapults and siege ramps. I ran down and joined the army at house #5.
Instantly I was transported into the future, and found myself before what I can only call a "temple fortress".
The city was gray, in ruins, and desolate. A man had just emerged from the huge double doors of the temple fortress.
He was dressed in a suit. A voice said to me "he says he is god, but he is of devil". The the vision ended.
(Pastor CJ - 2009 - I believe this is Barak Hussein Obama. 'Barak' is Hebrew for lightning.
Obama is a RED STAR, Nazi, communist, Muslim. MANY world leaders are falling in the last year.
I DO NOT believe ARMY is the gifts of the Spirit, tho those will be abundant. I think its Americans fighting
against the government with crude weapons - this based on Duduman's vision.)
Significant events indicated in the vision
6th star falls to the earth. Understood to mean the fall of a ruler (or president).
I do not believe this to be actual stars or a comet or any other such object. The stars appeared to be within the
atmosphere of the earth, and there was not a huge explosion or calamity when the red "star" fell to the earth.
The blood moon and lightless sun.
More imagry that represents the fall of nations and change in the ages. The fall of a president is not enough to
bring about changes on this scale. There will be great changes in the earth and alignment of nations.
A wave ancient weapons of war, which I believe to represent the restoration the sign gifts
SIGNS WONDERS and MIGHTY DEEDS
I waited for 23 years to receive a clue as to the meaning of these houses. In another dream in 1995,
I was in the back yard of house #3. I looked down at my feet and saw a LIFE magazine, with a picture of
JFK on the cover, and the words "In Memory of Dead Presidents". House number three is the house that
represents the term of John Kennedy.
Each house represents a presidential administration.
House 1 Harry Truman 1945 - 1953
Nothing significant revealed about this house.
House 2 Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953 - 1961
In a related dream, a model rocket was launched into the air and was drifting down into yard of this house.
The rocket then turned into a glider and glided into the yard. My aunt used to refer to me as her "rocket boy"
because of my early interest with model rocketry. It was in the Eisenhower Administration that I was born.
It was during this dream that I ran through the back yard of house #3 (to retrieve the falling rocket) and was
shown the Life Magazine with Kennedy on the cover. It was then that I knew that these houses represented
House 3 John F. Kennedy 1961 - 1963, Assassinated
The yard in which I was shown the key to the meaning of the houses. The Life Magazine with JFKs face on it
with a caption stating "In Memory of Dead Presidents" was in this yard. It has been suggested that all the
presidents on this "street" must pass away before the events discussed in the remaining revelation can occur.
This would mean all presidents up to Carter and maybe Reagan (his house is on a corner lot).
House 4 Lyndon B. Johnson 1963 - 1969
This house was occupied by a family of Jews named Levine. It was during the administration of LBJ that
Jerusalem was returned to Israel during the 1967 Arab Israel war. Levine is a long form of Levite. This is a
very significant event in the history of the world. With the retaking of Jerusalem, the temple can be rebuild
and the stage set for both the setting up of the anti-christ and the return of Jesus Christ.
Johnson resigned after one term, he did not run again.
House 5 Richard M. Nixon 1969 - 1974
It was into the yard of this house that I ran down and joined the army of God which was marching forward through time
(the backyards of these houses). It was also in the Nixon administration that I was saved, filled with the Spirit, and had
the vision I am now describing. Everything up to this point had already happened in time. However, everything recorded
in the remaining houses had not yet happened. It is significant to remember this president, since it will be (according
to the falling star and darkened house #10)the 6th administration after Nixon that will endure the beginning of judgment
on America, including the fall of that 10th president. Nixon resigned in his second term, Ford pardoned him.
REMEMBER from where you have fallen, and REPENT and do the deeds you did at first,
or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place unless you repent
House 6 Gerald Ford 1974 - 1977
House 7 Jimmy Carter 1977 - 1981
Nothing significant. One term weak president.
House 8 Ronald Reagan 1981 - 1989
A Major shift occurs in the time of this president. The house sits on a corner lot, and the row of houses
changes direction TO THE RIGHT. It can be noted that the nations' politics took a sharp turn to the right
during the Reagan administration. This shift undoubtedly was in the plan of God for the series of events
leading up to the last presidents and the fate of the nation.
(Pastor CJ - Reagan bought America more years, judgment was delayed.)
House 9 George H. W. Bush 1989-1993 (Bush 41)
Nothing significant in this administration.
House 10 Bill Clinton 1993 - 2001
It is this administration that is the main focus of the vision of the night.
Over the house was a very dark cloud, so dark that it seemed like night.
The cloud was very low so as to almost touch the rooftop. There was something very significant about the "back door"
of this house that may have some meaning. The lights were on in the house and they stood out brightly in the darkness
created by the cloud. As I looked at this cloud hanging low over the 10th house, I ;also saw an arch of 6 stars in the
sky to the west. The stars were of different colors, and the last (sixth from Nixon) of them fell to earth like a fig that
was shaken loose from a limb. I have taken this to mean that this administration will preside over some very
bad times in the USA, and that this administration will "fall".
------ This is the end of the presidents Martin knew at the time -----
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|Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject:
|House 11 President - George W. Bush 2001 - 2009 (Bush 43)
In the yard of this house is a large weeping willow tree. This tree represents mourning and sorrow.
But under the draping limbs of this tree are children playing.
House 12 President ?
This is the last house that I saw in this vision of the night. After this house was a dirt path that lead toward a
collection of boulders arraigned in a semi circle which reminded me of a place where a trial was held and
judgment rendered. In another dream which took place during the millennial age, I was standing among these
rock looking at the ruins of a world rocked by the tribulation. In the ruins of these boulders I found a witch doll.
I knew immediately that on of the reasons that the USA was judged was because she had gone after the occult and witchcraft.
(Pastor CJ 2009 - Obama is in the whitehouse illegally, and America is judged for its sins.
A usurper, the commander-in-thief. Puppet of the globalists.)
Across from the path after house #12 was a new row of houses stretching off into the distance.
These I believe are the rulers of the land that Jesus will set up during the millennium.
In the vision of the night (after I saw the star fall to the earth), I heard a voice say "Look to the east".
I began to turn and fully expected to see Jesus coming in the clouds. As I turned I saw the clouds part and
I saw the blood moon and the dark sun. Both of these are symbolic of judgment being levied on a nation and the
fall of a nation. I continued turning to the east and saw the ancient army approaching from the east through the
yards of all the houses of the presidents. It was then that I ran down to join this army in the yard of the house of Nixon.
This was 1971, the year I was saved. Immediately the scene changed and I was in the middle of a city in gray ruins.
I saw a man emerge from what I perceived to be a "temple fortress" who was dressed in a diplomatic suit and
carrying a briefcase. A voice said "He claims to be God, but is of devil". Then the dream ended.
Perhaps the greatest miracle concerning this vision of the night, and the hardest to conceive,
is that the neighborhood described is an actual neighborhood from my childhood in Massena New York!!
The street was called "Washington Street" ( for presidents?).
The houses are just as I describe them, and were that way long before I had the dream.
There really was a family of Jews named "Levi" in house #4.
The street did (and still does) take a right turn at house #8.
House #11 really does have a weeping willow tree under it, and children did play there
There really is a path leading up from house #12, and there really is a collection of boulders at the end of that path!
There really is a row of houses stretching off into the distance on the other side of that path.
These facts can be verified with little effort, as the streets and houses exist today as they did 25 years ago.
Can you see the miracle that God somehow manipulated the houses, events, and even street names so as to coincide
with this vision of the night! This in an undeniable, verifiable miracle where God used (and is using) an existing
neighborhood to lay out His plan for America and the manifestation of the Antichrist. We are in house #10 now.
Hold onto your hats, because the next years are going to be a roller coaster ride!!!
President George W. Bush center stage in vision
(Pastor CJ - Unless I am mis-reading, I think Martin, or whoever wrote the webpage, got his houses 11 and 12 mixed up.)
My 1971 vision of the night relates to the history of the USA from the 1950s into the next century. It depicted the
last 12 presidents of the USA. Each administration [2 terms counts as only 1 administration] was represented by
a house on a street. These houses start with the house representing Eisenhower.
The sixth house past Nixon, the house after Clinton, is George W. Bush. He was center stage of the dream.
This house was shrouded in deep dark clouds. The clouds came right down and almost touched the roof.
The lights were on in the house, and the back door drew special attention. To the north of the house was an arch of 6 stars.
The sixth star fell to earth. Two large tunnels opened in the thick dark clouds through which I could also see the sun turned
black and the moon to blood. These images are symbolic of the fall of a leader. The 6th star from Nixon fell, the one after Clinton,
the fall of the nation (the sun black) and the judgement of the church (red moon).
This vision could mean that President Bush falls at the same time as the nation falls (Mystery Babylon, the UN/USA).
The final President (the one after Bush) would be a puppet New World Order
placed over the USA until Christ returns at Armageddon [Megiddo].]
Based on this vision of the night, I said that Clinton would be re-elected for a second term and would not finish his second term.
It was hard to believe that he would fall. My dream was telling me that we would be here, NOT RAPTURED, that great changes
would take place when we see this president fall [the one after Clinton], and that we should not be troubled!
The Lord can save us and keep us safe.
LOOK for a great destruction in the USA. In the dream I saw a man who looks a great deal like AlGore who presided over
the destruction. For many many years I thought this figure in the dream was the Antichrist, and it still may be.
Realize that this judgment is happening because of
Abortion - innocent blood
Lust - surge of homosex
Light treatment of spiritual things in the church, modernism and tradition, no holiness.
The overall rejection of faith and spiritual things.
The Lord is saying "Why are you ashamed of me?"
Remnant Radio website note
House #12 began in January 2009. If this vision is correct, that President for house 12 will be the last president.
This supposed president turned out to be Barry Sorotoro (AKA Barack Hussein Obama). It is obvious to all but the
completely brainwashed that this man is not a proper president. He has not proven eligibility to be president by
constitutional directive. He has also not taken a proper oath of office.
This leaves the question was Bush the last president, or is Obama, even though legally he is not?
Will Obama be the one who will shortly become the world government leader/dictator?
Even if that is not true, the office of president will be eliminated, and the USA will be just a
territory under the one world government, with the office of president no longer needed.
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Posted on Nov 25, 2008 Zionscry NEWS
The last 12 USA presidents
Each was represented by a house
After George W. Bush (43) 2000 - 2008 the Republic ends.
(Nyquist, not Martin)
1971 Vision of C. Alan Martin
While researching this vision, I clicked to a website for the complete vision of
C. Alan Martin. One was an AOL homepage. It had suddenly been shut down.
Several pages exposing Obama have been shut down.
When visionaries see down thru time, when things happen can err. Or the vision could be wrong.
Clearly, Al Gore lost election 2000. Or did he? His global warming lies are very popular worldwide,
like Obama, Gore has had power he should not have, the Kyoto treaty passed Congress in the Bailout Bill
October 3, 2008. Abortion, Witchcraft, Lust, homo sin is rampant in the USA in 2008.
The final President (after GW Bush, namely Obama) would be a puppet
New World Order, placed over the USA until Christ returns at Armageddon.
To what extent is G W Bush controlled, perhaps by someone who LOOKS LIKE Gore?
Al Gore may very well control both Bush and Obama. Gore comes from a communist
family line. Bush actions have been what Gore would do, ditto Obama. Obama is
Communist / Marxist. Is Al Gore controlling from behind the scenes.
Is Gore the AntiChrist, is Obama? Gore totally lacks the charisma which Obama has,
to be a leader so much work with puppets such as Bush as Obama.
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|Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject:
|Jack Hook claims the last American President will be the Antichrist.
Possibly, I dunno. Jack Hook email to me ...
Email reply from David Kaus, a fellow Vietnam veteran.
In 1978, when the Lord showed me that the last American President would be the infamous Antichrist,
most in Christendom laughed at and ridiculed me for suggesting such an unpatriotic thing.
Now more and more Christians are seeing the same thing, just as Tom Horn’s video declares the prophetic connection between1776 and 2012,
the similar layouts of Washington D.C. and the Vatican, and the Masonic anointing of all Presidents.
All of these point to the return of our Lord Jesus Christ who shed his blood for our sins that we might be saved and enter into his Kingdom.
Keep in touch.
From: David Kaus, firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:03 PM
Subject: Tom Horn - The satanic spirit realm that rules the governments of this world
Tom Horn has done extensive research into the occult symbolism found in the history of this nation.
He lays out many of these facts in the below video.
This should help everyone better understand where the present fraud who occupies the White House, and others in government are trying to take this nation today.
Thank you Jack Hook for your email on The Manchus of Charlie Co., Vietnam 1968.
This video might interest you and those you have talked to about spiritual wickedness in high places that control the unregenerate minds in governments and society.
The rulers of darkness have controlled men and governments in a rebellion against God and Jesus Christ through out the history of man.
Are there indications of that involvement in the formation of America, and symbols of pagan occultism in our nations capital ?
What would a person who had no idea of what America claims to stand for today conclude if they let the symbolism in and around Washington D.C. speak for itself ?
Who would they believe was America's God she trusted in ? The evidence, and the men behind the architecture reveal the answer.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING!
Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company
**After reading this letter please "forward" it to your family and friends who you think might be interested. If you are a veteran of the military please respond and let me know when and where you served.**
I want to say upfront just how difficult this article has been to write.
As my personal friends and immediate family members, as well as those of you on my mailing list know, my understanding of war among men and nations is not a popular topic around the water-cooler. The things I have written from the scriptures are crystal clear, but those opposed to them have taken many things out of context rather than admit the Lord Jesus Christ actually said these things before any of his followers followed in his footsteps. The main purpose of this article is to introduce you to the men of Charlie Company and their unbelievable stories during a time of great division and bitterness in America over the Vietnam war.
Moreover, this article is my attempt to bring balance to the New Testament teachings concerning Christian involvement in warfare while at the same time honoring, respecting, and paying tribute to soldiers as Paul taught in Romans 12-13.
Last year I wrote and posted to our website an article entitled "Pacifist, Patriot, or Pilgrim" which highlighted the story of a longtime personal friend of mine, Larry Ward. Larry and I grew up in the same small town in Iowa, went to college together, and entered the Army about the same time. After our basic and advance combat training we both received orders for Officers Candidate School, his in infantry and mine in logistics. We were both in Vietnam during the 1968 Tet offensive but didn't know it. As a matter of fact we were only twenty miles or so apart as I was with Headquarters Command in Saigon and he in Cu Chi with C (Charlie) Company, 4th Battalion, 9th "Manchu" (their nick-name) Regiment of the 25th Infantry Division.
Even though the battles raged in and around Saigon with the 25th Division, the Army still allowed soldiers to go on R&R for one week. Larry had made arrangements before Tet to meet and marry his girlfriend, Cheryl, in Hawaii, so off he went. By this time in his one year tour of duty he had moved up as the XO or executive officer of Charlie Company. Upon his arrival back to Saigon with his new bride fresh in his mind and heart, and still not knowing that I was just across the street from the Air Force base, he was informed of a major battle taking place near the bridge at Hoc Mon. It was March 2, 1968, a date that will be forever remembered by the men and families of Charlie Company. All Larry could do was listen to the radio relays as his friends were being ambushed and massacred by the North Vietnamese army units that had set the trap. When it was all over fifty-eight American soldiers lay dead in their blood, with twenty-eight more severely wounded.
A couple of months later our mothers back in Iowa realized their sons were stationed very close to one another in Vietnam and contacted us. The Tet offensive had pretty much been crushed, so Larry came to see me in Saigon. I will never forget, even now after forty years, how good it was to see my old friend. It wasn't long and he began to brief me on the details of Hoc Mon and Charlie Company. He was moved deeply in his heart as he recounted how he was not there with them on that dark day. He had seen many days of combat and told me about many experiences, but clearly Hoc Mon was burned deep into his heart.
Upon returning to the States we met up again as students at the University of Northern Iowa. He was also the company commander of an infantry reserve company. He asked me to join the unit and become his XO, which I did and our friendship continued on for two more years. Then my father was taken ill and I decided to enter the family business, while Larry continued with the reserves and moved to Illinois. Sadly, we then lost contact with each other. A few years later Carol and I moved to Phoenix where we have been for the last twenty-five years.
Larry and I were reunited a few years ago and plan on staying that way until we leave this planet for Heaven. We recalled those days of Tet and our meeting in Saigon. My foggy memories of those days were beginning to clear up. Then in July of this year Larry asked me to join him for the annual September reunion of the Manchus to be held in San Antonio. I almost wept as I realized that I would finally meet some of those who survived Hoc Mon and many other battles of Charlie Company.
As the day approached for my flight to Dallas to meet Larry, where we would drive together to San Antonio, Carol and I were talking about what I should say to Larry's friends. Carol looked at me and said "just listen to them". I knew by this short exhortation from my Godly wife that I was to respect and honor these men as I do Larry. When Larry and I met in Dallas to begin our journey to San Antonio we immediately began to share our experiences in Vietnam. I told him about the young corporal from Alabama under my command who was killed by a sniper's bullet, and how a few days later another sniper took aim at my head and missed. As I was writing a letter to accompany his belongings back home, I knew this young man's face would be with me forever. My life would never be the same. Then Larry looked at me and said he had written fifty-eight letters to families of the men who died at Hoc Mon. Upon hearing that, all I wanted to do was lay down and cry for my friend and the men of Charlie Company.
We arrived in San Antonio and finally, after going around in circles for awhile, we found the hotel. Larry had told me to bring my golf clubs making me think we would play a lot of golf, which I enjoy more and more as I grow older. It's also great exercise that restrains my arthritic ankle, diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease. In fact, we played only one time on the first day, and I managed to tie another man for first place, whose name is also Larry, I think. But after listening to Larry's friends that night, I told Dan McKinney, one of the tournament organizers, I could not accept any trophy and for them to give it solely to the other man. For in my heart I didn't even belong in the same room with these men who suffered and sacrificed so much for their country.
I must confess that after spending several days with the men from Charlie Company my understanding of the "wars and rumors of war" that Jesus prophesied for the last days before his second coming was confirmed, Matthew 24, Luke 21. Moreover, all of the great men of Charlie Company hate war and know up close and personal the physical and emotional scars of battle. There were many things said by these men that could fill the pages of a book, but for the sake of your time I will try to limit my observations. This is just a small part of what I heard and witnessed among them:
Dan told us that he been assigned to Charlie Company for only five days when the ambush of Hoc Mon happened. He was surrounded by men who had lived through many battles and his memories of being with his wife, Linda, were recent and fresh. He said the moment machine-gun and rifle fire began he fell to the ground as the hail of bullets seemed to be coming from everywhere. As he lay there, bullets ripped into his feet and legs, as shrapnel from grenades or mortars grazed his head. Then a bullet hit him in the back. He thought he was dying and blood saturated the ground around him. Dan looked to one side and saw a dead friend. He looked to his other side to see another friend who was wounded but alive. Just then, a bullet struck the soldier between the eyes and Dan watched the life leave his body. The way Dan told his story made you feel like you were there with him on that day forty years ago. Soon there came upon him a medic, who saw that Dan was still alive but in great pain, so he gave him a shot of morphine to bring him relief. Dan watched as the medic moved out to treat another soldier when another wave of bullets took him down, killing him instantly.
Just a side note to those who might read this that confess to be secular or religious pacifists. I was told by Larry that some of the medics he served with were pacifists or conscientious objectors, yet chose to serve as medics. The soldiers of Charlie Company I talked to all expressed their deep respect and admiration for these medics who gave their lives while they were treating the wounds of their fallen friends. They are all heroes in their eyes. When Dan was sharing this dreadful day with us, his daughter, Tina, who always comes to these reunions with her father, was visibly moved as we all were, and I knew how thankful she was to the medic who saved her father's life. As I watched Tina and Linda, I thought of Carol and our daughter, Tiffany, and wished they were there with me. Dan then recounted for us how he was falling in and out of consciousness. He could hear voices of the enemy soldiers moving through the battlefield, killing the wounded Americans on the ground. When they came to his location they saw the dead men beside Dan and all of the blood that covered his head and body and thought he was dead as well. Dan calls it a God thing.
Dan is a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. All of his Manchu friends know that Dan and his family love God. I will never forget the night when twenty-three of us, including some wives, were getting ready to eat dinner along the riverwalk of San Antonio. Dan stood up and asked all of us to join hands and ask God to bless this meal and the friendships of his Manchu brothers. His boldness for God and love for his Manchu brothers has humbled me immensely. It is an honor to now be the friend of Dan McKinney and his family.
Sal was the first one from Charlie Company who shared with me how much he respected and loved my friend, Larry Ward. Sal and I were sitting around with others as he waited for his wife to arrive from the airport, when he said that he and some others wanted to be in Larry's platoon, because he had the reputation of caring for and protecting his men. Sal knew what I had known from high school, that Larry was a remarkable leader who could also be a loyal friend. But then Sal began to choke a little as he remembered another Lieutenant he served under with Charlie Company. When this man took over the platoon, Sal sensed something was troubling the young Lieutenant. Sal had a conversation with his new leader which revealed his indifference towards God. This comment would later change Sal's life forever.
On a mission when Sal was walking through the jungle and trees right next to the Lieutenant, sniper fire from the trees put every man on the ground. I will never forget the look in Sal's eyes as he told me his Lieutenant was mortally wounded. Sal moved closer to comfort him only to hear the Lieutenant say "Oh God" as he took his last breath. It was all I could do to keep my composure as I watched Sal. I knew that image of the Lieutenant had been with Sal for forty years and replayed in his heart just as long. He didn't tell me, but I knew that Sal would never doubt the existence of God from that day forward. At that point his wife, Gail, arrived from the airport and we all readied ourselves for dinner. Little did I know, but this was Gail's very first Manchu reunion and that her life was about to change as well.
The desire to go golfing had now totally departed from me and was replaced by a God-given compassion upon these men from Charlie Company. I wanted to know them and become their friend. At the same time I knew the scriptural truth about war that I hold to might someday come between us. If they were anything like my friend, Larry, who knows what I believe about America and Christian involvement in carnal wars, we would remain friends and grow together in the grace and knowledge of God, our Savior. Larry is not sure in his mind about my controversial stand about America as Babylon of the New Testament, but he is a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and knows that repentance of sin and faith in the shed blood of Jesus is the only way to enter Heaven when he dies. This is the root foundation of our friendship upon which all other knowledge must rest.
This truth of eternal life only through the Lord was deepened in Larry's heart as he has been diagnosed with CLL or Leukemia brought on by his exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam. There were hundreds of men and some family members that attended the Manchu reunion, and Agent Orange exposure was a popular topic of conversation. Most of us have come down with diseases associated with these deadly toxins that entered our bodies like time-release capsules that exploded within us as we have grown older. Government scientists have proven this to be true. When compared to the average population, these deadly diseases are much more prevalent and struck us at earlier ages than normal. In my case, insulin resistance leading to diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease which necessitated open-heart surgery, have almost taken me down. But the skillful hands of a heart surgeon and multiple medicines have restrained these diseases and restored the life of my body for a time.
Murray "Bird" Birnbaum
What can I say about Bird? If it were not for him I would have been drained from the emotions stirred by listening to these men. My heart was heavy with sorrow for the men of Charlie Company. To me, it was like God sending Bird among us to tell the funny stories even in the midst of death and destruction. He had me in uncontrollable laughter many times. But there was a serious side to Bird. He was one of those soldiers known as Tunnel Rats, men who would enter alone into the small caves and tunnels where the Viet Cong either hid or initiated ambushes upon the Americans. He knew the risks he was taking. Bird never shared with me his religious views, but we all knew he was born Jewish. He was asked why he regularly attended the Chaplain's Christian services before they went out on a mission. He said he wanted to "cover all of the bases" in case he was killed.
There were no tears of laughter rolling down our faces when Bird told us about the Viet Cong soldier who came through the bushes right in front of him with his rifle pointed at his heart. Something must have delayed the enemy soldier for Bird raised his weapon and killed the soldier instantly. Again my heart was filling up with sorrow as I watched the pain in Bird's eyes. But there was more, much more, to the story. Bird said he went up to the dead body and quickly saw this soldier was no more than boy, maybe a young teenager. Grief began to overcome Bird as he noticed a necklace on the dead boy. And on that necklace was a cross. He had killed a Christian, a believer in the God of Israel. If that was not enough, he also reached into the pocket of the boy and found a picture. The images on that picture were of the boy and his mother. Bird's life would never be the same. When he returned home he carried with him that picture and necklace. He told us that he spent ten years in the VA hospital trying to deal with what he had done.
I forgot to mention that Bird and Sal grew up together in New York and went to the same high school. It was not a accident or coincidence that both men were also assigned to Charlie Company and had a great reunion when they met. As I listened to Bird, I said to myself "God was preparing them for something". Bird's wife, Dianne, was also with us in San Antonio. And she and Gail had never met, for Bird was now living in Florida. Like Gail, this was Dianne's first Manchu reunion. On the last day of the reunion I witnessed Dianne and Gail embracing, weeping, and declaring they were now friends forever. I could now understand why Sal and Bird where both assigned to Charlie Company forty years ago. God is a patient God is he not? It was a beautiful sight that I will never forget.
Dianne told me that she was a Christian who struggled with war, and hated war even more as she lived with the emotional destruction it inflicted upon her beloved Jewish husband. She clearly knew the teachings of her Lord Jesus Christ that forbids Christians to make war, but yet she wondered why Christian men in America today seem to be the most eager to take up arms against America's enemies. It is indeed very confusing and causes great stress among friends and families.
All of us should know that Jesus is coming again to "make war" on the proud and selfish war mongers of this world system who reject Jesus Christ "and" his teachings, Revelation 19:11. That simple truth makes it impossible for me to be a classic Christian pacifist who believes that all wars are wrong and evil. The Old Testament wars Israel fought were directed by God himself, therefore they cannot be called evil. When Jesus finally came to Israel from Heaven to die on the cross for all of us, shedding his pure blood to save us from our sin nature, he postponed warfare for those who would follow him. Instead, we are called "in this age" before his second coming to pick up our own cross and call our enemies to repentance rather than kill them. We are spiritually from another Kingdom which is not of this world system, John 18:36.
We who know Jesus is alive, believe he is coming to imprison the fallen angels and Satan, who deceives all nations of this world and stirs up mankind's sin nature that is filled with pride, lusts, and hatred that are the root of all wars among men. There is coming a time when Christians from all ages, in our resurrected bodies, will be with him on that final day of wrath known as Armageddon, Revelation 19:14-21, 14:14-20. We will witness and participate in carnage and bloodshed that makes Hoc Mon, even D-Day, pale in comparison. This is the only "just" war for Christians and we must suffer rejection and persecution, as Jesus did, until that day when our Lord returns to judge the living and the dead. For he alone is worthy and able to judge fairly and righteously among men.
William (Bill) Hunter
Bill Hunter and his son, Scott, were the first of Larry's friends that I had the honor and privilege to meet. On the first day Larry and I played a round of golf with them, and I was quickly made aware that Bill was the holder of a trophy from last years Manchu reunion. I'm not sure, but I think it was a trophy for the "oddest" shot of the day. The trophy would stay in the family, for Scott's drive on a par four was one of the weirdest movements of a golf ball I have ever seen. Bill was much like Bird in that he provided the much needed laughter that broke the heaviness of remembering the evil of war.
It is forever etched in my heart the day some of us went to the Vietnam memorial in San Antonio. As we walked around the statue depicting a fallen soldier being comforted by his friend, and reading the prayers and poems written on the walls, I noticed some of these old soldiers weeping openly then wiping the tears from their eyes. A young lady not with us was standing nearby and was visibly moved by the love and compassion she saw in these men. She had been taking pictures of the memorial and asked if all of us would pose for a picture in front of the statue. As we all gathered together, I heard the voice of Bill Hunter, who must be at least 6' 4" tall, coming from behind the memorial. Bill removed all tears of sadness and replaced them with tears of laughter as he said "wait for me, make room for 320 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal". You must know that Bill carries with him an oxygen tank and is suffering from PTSD, as well as the ravaging diseases caused by Agent Orange, to understand just how funny that was.
Andy was the company commander of Charlie Company when Larry arrived in Vietnam and these fine officers had not seen each other for forty years. When Larry was told that his former CO was there in another room he immediately went to see him. Andy looked at Larry and said "Larry Ward, you have not changed a bit". Later that night Andy, Larry, myself, and several others were sitting in the hotel lobby talking about the two topics that break up families and cause wars, religion and politics. At first I sat there obeying my wife's exhortation, just listening to Andy, fascinated by his knowledge of religious and political history, and his soft tone that made me think I was sitting under a learned professor. And yet this aging veteran was a career soldier, retiring as a Colonel. He was easy to listen to and my respect for him grew immensely in a very short time.
When he paused, I asked him what he thought of Russia's recent invasion of Georgia, and if this was bringing America and Russia to the brink of war, either hot or cold. Before he could answer, I continued to add detail to my question by stating that I understood the history of the Roman Empire after the time of Jesus Christ to be very relevant to the question. For the followers of the risen Lord, who were also Roman citizens, refused to join with the emperor in his wars of defense or conquest, just as the apostles who wrote the New Testament had done. It was later Christian leaders, like Constantine and Augustine, who reversed the policy and doctrine of the apostles and the "just" war doctrine for Christians was born. And when Rome's power was divided into the Eastern and Western branches, the cultures of each migrated into Russia and America with each branch thinking they had been given by God the task of establishing the dominion of the Kingdom of God on the Earth "before" Jesus could return.
I forgot to mention to Andy at the time that this is exactly what the prophet Daniel saw in the vision given to him by God, Daniel 7&8. Daniel said two Little Horns (younger nations) would arise at the end of the age to compete for world dominion, and bring about a bloodbath that would usher in the return of the Messiah to save the people of the world from themselves and their wayward leaders. Andy looked at me and appeared to agree with my understanding of Roman history and said he was very concerned about Russia and their alliances with the radical Moslem states like Iran, which is known in history books as Persia, Ezekiel 38.
Andy left Vietnam before the Tet offensive of 1968, so he was not there to witness firsthand what happened to his company at Hoc Mon. He returned for a second tour with the 101st Airborne Division and was again a company commander in the battle that became known as Hamburger Hill, one of the bloodiest battles of the Vietnam war, the kind they make movies about.
Watty was not a member of Charlie Company, but from what I witnessed and heard he was the honorary member of those I have written about so far. He was the CO of Bravo Company, and was a friend of Andy Gayle while in Vietnam. Watty is no stranger to the diseases cause by exposure to Agent Orange. From what he told us he was among the first returning veterans to approach the Defense Department and the VA about the diseases that were attacking his body. He said it was a long struggle with the bureaucracy, but in the end they conceded there was a connection between Agent Orange and these killer diseases. We all owe men like Watty a debt of gratitude for taking his stand against powerful men in high places.
Watty told us of a time when his company was out in the field as the aircraft that sprayed these toxins flew low right over them and he would wave at them as they passed overhead, not knowing they were raining down death upon them. I had already been introduced to Watty's southern wit and humor, but I still didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Watty and his wife of fifty-two years, Helen, brought all of the southern grace and charm of Tennessee to our conversations. It was a mixed group that often gathered together for meals and the chats in the hotel lobby. I was amazed to see this Tennessee couple with their southern accent, so enjoying the presence of their friends from New York, Sal and Bird. Listening to them was like hearing two different languages. I knew their experiences together with the 4th Battalion was what bound them together forever.
During one of our chats, Watty, Andy, and Bird recalled and told the story about the 4th Battalion's "secret river crossing" that should be written down for all the men of the 4th Battalion to read. It is a classic story which, if made into a movie would surpass the fame of the Clint Eastwood movie, "Kelly's Heroes". As the story goes, the battalion commander was given intelligence that some American POW's were being help in a camp across the Saigon river. Eager to free their brothers in arms, a mission plan was put into operation that involved the entire battalion. It was to be a quiet river crossing to take the enemy camp by surprise.
Watty said that as the battalion moved out, Charlie Company was to cross the river in large rubber rafts, securing the far side of the river enabling the other companies to assemble a pre-sectioned bridge to cross the river. When Andy's raft started out across the river, the current apparently took his raft downstream and he realized he was separated from his men. He stood up in the raft and shouted to his company they were off course. The man steering Andy's raft told him to sit down or it would overturn and they would all end up in the river. Andy said "I am the Captain" and the soldier said "I don't care who you are, sit down". While Andy was struggling to change course, the other rafts were reaching the other shore. The first man jumped off the raft and immediately sunk in marshy quicksand. He was stuck and unable to move, as Bird now picked up the story with his infamous New York dialect. By then we were all laughing so hard it hurt.
Watty broke in again with his southern drawl saying while this was going on a couple of enemy soldiers were now spotted on top of the hill across the river. They began to fire their weapons high into the air for the battalion was out their range. Watty said they heard the rifle blasts and watched as the bullets eventually hit the water next to them. After all of this the entire battalion finally made it across the river and the men were still determined to free the POW's, even though the element of surprise was now obviously lost. Watty said when they reached their objective, all psyched-up to rescue and save their fellow soldiers, all they found was a couple of bicycles and a duck. Needless to say, we all were beside ourselves in laughter. The intelligence was obviously flawed for there was no trace of any POW.
I have purposely placed Don at the end of this article. Of all the new friends I found in San Antonio, Don seems to represent them all, the common thread that flows through each of them. His devoted wife, Mary, has inspired him to remain active with his friends. You could see the determination in her eyes as she helped him minister to his long-time friends. For many of these Manchus looked to him for spiritual guidance when they were in the combat zones of Vietnam. He was then the Battalion Chaplain and retired years later as a Brigadier General. I believe he was of the Baptist persuasion, so he knew the road to eternal life in Jesus Christ. He was there by their side, as they fought and died.
Don recounted several stories to me personally that moved me tears more than once. The one that I will never forget involved the ambush and massacre at Hoc Mon. After the battle was over, when the remainder of the 4th Battalion crushed the enemy who had killed their friends in Charlie Company, Don was one of the first men to walk through the battlefield. The helicopters were coming in to remove the dead and wounded so Don, along with another man, rushed to pick up everyone of his dead friends and put them in assembly areas. He said "I picked up all fifty-eight of them" as my heart was about to burst from my chest. This Godly man reminded me how horrible war really is and how much our loving and merciful God hates what men do to each other.
As Don was moving from body to body at Hoc Mon, he grabbed the arms of a fallen soldier who others assumed was dead and not one of the wounded. Keep in mind this is many hours after the battle had ended. Don said as he grabbed the man's arms they felt warm, and Don's heart leaped with hope within him as he yelled for the medics and doctors to come to his aid. The wounded soldier was saved, but in the rush to gather the dead Don didn't get his name.
I wanted Don to understand why I was with the Manchus in San Antonio. I told him about Larry, how we had grown up together. My fervent prayer is that Don will read this article and ask our God to confirm from the scriptures what I have written here and on my website. I am convinced in the Lord that men can be saved, spirit-filled Christians and yet not fully understand the prophecies relating to the second coming and the alignment of the nations with America's role in the end times. None of us have all the answers.
We are all growing together through the ministry of the Holy Spirit working in and through us. We must be patient with one another. But Christians who are indwelled by the Spirit of God all share one thing and that is faith in the pre-millennial coming of the Lord, which is part and parcel of the gospel of the bloody cross. The Lord's bodily resurrection links them together. The cross and pre-millennial coming of the risen Jesus cannot be separated. Pre-millennial simply means the second coming is imminent, that Jesus will come in judgment to intervene in the affairs of men and then establish his earthly Kingdom which lasts for one-thousand years. Any other teaching on this is a deception that will lead one to follow the coming Antichrist.
We should all be weeping for our country, not its political-religious-economic systems and institutions, but our friends, family, and neighbors who are trapped in the moral decay that would make Sodom and Gomorrah blush with shame. It is that bad my friends and know that judgment is at the gate. You can see the "beginnings" of it everywhere as the divine rain of the wrath of God falls lightly upon all economic-religious-political institutions. There is coming a period of time when his wrath will be poured out in its fullness upon all those who refuse his mercy and grace, Revelation 15:1.
I also shared with Don how I became a Christian. My wife, Carol, had suggested that I be a good listener, which I remembered every day, but I was now sitting before a humble and kind man who is gifted by God with the ability to listen and encourage others to open up their hearts. He has the heart of a pastor. I wanted to pour my heart out to this man, and I did. I told him how I turned to atheism after the war, even telling my Godly mother who raised me to believe in Jesus Christ, that I no longer believed in the Lord. It was like a knife going into my mother's heart, but I was filled with hate and pride, only thinking of myself.
After ten years of walking in the darkness of atheism, a Jewish man and his Christian wife moved into our community of two-thousand German ancestry residents. Many of them hated this man, but he and his dear wife befriended Carol and me, and we responded in kind. His wife was troubled by all their personal problems and was being convicted by the Lord to renew her faith. Her Jewish husband was also coming under conviction and soon he came to me suggesting that Carol and I join them Sunday for church services. At first I refused, even lambasting him for being a Jew whose ancestors, as a nation, rejected Jesus as their Messiah. But the fact that a Christ rejecting Jew was now coming to me, a former Christian who became an atheist after the war, perplexed me greatly so we decided to join them the following Sunday.
This Sunday service was not what I expected, for there were thousands of people there to watch a movie called "Distant Thunder" which chronicled the Bible's prophecies about the end times. It was riveting and at the end the pastor got up and asked all those who wanted to be forgiven and have their sin natures washed away by the blood of Jesus to come forward. Our wives immediately ran down the isle leaving my Jewish friend and me in our seats. We looked at each other, and without a word, followed our wives to the alter. The pastor came over to the four of us now weeping and kneeling, almost laying on the floor. He didn't know us from Adam and Eve, but he began to pray over us. He reminded us of the Jewish holocaust in Germany, and how another one was on the horizon for Israel, just as the movie depicted. Little did the pastor know, but my Jewish friend was suffering great trouble and persecution in my little German village. And so was I for standing up for him among my former friends and business colleagues.
This was the beginning of a new life for Carol and me and our children. Now, some thirty years later, after sharing this testimony with thousands of people, I find myself back to square one, my life as a soldier. I now know the Lord arranged for me to be with these wonderful men in San Antonio so that I could reconcile in my mind, and re-confirm in my heart two fundamental truths that I alluded to in the beginning of this article.
First, is how Christian Americans should honor, respect, and pay tribute to veterans who suffered and sacrificed themselves for others, even though what we did was in ignorance of who really rules in the hearts of all mankind. Our rulers are the fallen angels, who none of us have yet seen face to face. This is a hard reality, I know, to put your faith in a Biblical truth that cannot be verified by our own eyes. But it is true none the less, and someday mankind will see these evil beings as God will allow them to show themselves in the coming tribulation outlined in the book of Revelation.
Secondly, because of the presence of these evil angels and their rule over all nations including America, which God allows because of the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, the followers of Christ are to remain loyal to the Kingdom of Heaven and understand that all of us are born with a sin nature that is filled with the pride of this life, the love of money and self, deception, and hatred, which are the root causes of all wars among men and nations. These elements of our sin nature are manipulated by the unseen fallen angels to do what these evil ones love the most, destroying and killing the men and women who God created and wants to save from their sins.
This generation has witnessed the return of the Jewish people to form a sovereign Israel in 1948, thereby fulfilling the very prophecy that would start the clock which ends with the second coming of Jesus Christ to imprison Satan and his fallen angels, and to make war against those men and rulers who refuse to bend the knee at the cross of Jesus Christ for salvation from the sin nature which controls all of us. I hope that my new friends from Charlie Company will join me in prayer and ask God for wisdom in these important matters. And those of you on my mailing list, and those who will read this on my web site, please love, honor, and respect all veterans and pray for these great men I have introduced you to today.
Sincerely, Jack D. Hook, email@example.com
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|Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:53 pm Post subject:
|Didn't Israel have 44 kings? Isn't Obama the 44th President of the USA?
No, I don't think Obama is the AC, however, I do believe he is likely the guy who will USHER IN the final act(whether it's "alien" disclosure or whatever).
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|Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject:
|44 Kings of Israel & 44 Presidents
Obama is the Last President of the US
There are commonly counted 42 kings of Israel. However, when one counts kingships, or continuous reigns, as presidencies are counted, it is found that there are 44 kingships in the history of Israel.
This is because the reign of King David was cleaved into two reigns by Absalom, his third son.
Just as Grover Cleveland served two terms non-consecutive as #22 and #24, King David was put in place as king twice. Both inductions involved ceremony.
King Absalom, who reigned only a few days, was the choice of the people. (2Sam 15:13)
Note also that the last three kings of Judah were puppets. This also parallels the dream sent me entitled as a YT video, "Last U.S. President Prophecy: Obama, McCain or Cheney?"
The red dragon's 8th head proclaims he has three presidents that will serve him. Because of the three short candles, and the three short cigars, I interpret this to mean the time is short for America.
I just found that googling to reply.
I am NOT agreeing - or disagreeing with him.
I do recall meeting a man who wrote a book on this years ago.
Barak Obama sure is a puppet of the world dictators, shadow govt.
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|Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject:
|Joel Rosenberg also believes the antichrist will be Islamic Mahdi
Time will tell. Duduman said the pope is the beast.
Freemasons are illuminati and so is Mormon, Islam and the RCC / vatican!
You may not want to hear it, but you better know it.
Obama head scars, whose brain was put in him?
Tecumseh Curse and the U.S. Presidency
Will the Shemitah curse fall September 13, 2015
America, China, Russia and the world standing at the Gate of Hell
DAYS to go til we know. I'm NOT predicting, just WATCHING.
Some claim the biblical tribulation may begin this fall.
HARBINGER WARNINGS - Isaiah 9 prophecy
When GOD destroys USA, you cant say He didnt WARN us!
DAILY NEWS with prophetic analysis
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|Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject:
|CJ wrote: |
|Obama head scars, whose brain was put in him? |
Maybe Obama is a fallen angel/nephilim disguised as a human?
Seriously - forget his lack of birth certificate in this country. There's no record of him attending Columbia(noone from his class remembers him). There's no photos of him and Michelle at their wedding, nor anyone that claims to attend it. The list goes on and on.
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